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Post by M1104 on Feb 26, 2014 12:42:29 GMT
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Post by snoggle on Feb 26, 2014 13:21:47 GMT
Hmm - another scheme that makes interchange between bus routes 50 times more awkward than at present. Why is it that so many road traffic "improvements" worsen the options for bus passengers? Why can't TfL put more routes through the bus station to give decent "same place" interchange options? |
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Post by M1104 on Feb 26, 2014 13:36:04 GMT
Hmm - another scheme that makes interchange between bus routes 50 times more awkward than at present. Why is it that so many road traffic "improvements" worsen the options for bus passengers? Why can't TfL put more routes through the bus station to give decent "same place" interchange options? Indeed as this is almost the exact opposite of what happened with Vauxhall, that being a vast improvement with its much more 'user-friendly' bus interchange. |
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Post by snoggle on Feb 26, 2014 13:52:26 GMT
Hmm - another scheme that makes interchange between bus routes 50 times more awkward than at present. Why is it that so many road traffic "improvements" worsen the options for bus passengers? Why can't TfL put more routes through the bus station to give decent "same place" interchange options? Indeed as this almost the exact opposite of what happened with Vauxhall, that being a vast improvement with its much more 'user-friendly' bus interchange. And I understand that the Vauxhall gyratory removal plans envisage the complete removal of Vauxhall Bus Station with bus stops being thrown to the four windy corners of the area. There is already a campaign in place to try to save the bus station. See also link |
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Post by John tuthill on Feb 26, 2014 14:17:24 GMT
Hmm - another scheme that makes interchange between bus routes 50 times more awkward than at present. Why is it that so many road traffic "improvements" worsen the options for bus passengers? Why can't TfL put more routes through the bus station to give decent "same place" interchange options? Indeed as this almost the exact opposite of what happened with Vauxhall, that being a vast improvement with its much more 'user-friendly' bus interchange. As it appears Aldgate High Street is to be two way again, can't part of Aldgate Bus Station be used as a 'thru' bus station? |
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Post by M1104 on Feb 26, 2014 14:21:06 GMT
Indeed as this almost the exact opposite of what happened with Vauxhall, that being a vast improvement with its much more 'user-friendly' bus interchange. And I understand that the Vauxhall gyratory removal plans envisage the complete removal of Vauxhall Bus Station with bus stops being thrown to the four windy corners of the area. There is already a campaign in place to try to save the bus station. See also linkI didn't know about the plans to get rid of Vauxhall Bus Station, after all the time it took to build it. What a waste of money to change it all again, especially after barely ten years of use. |
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Post by jrussa on Feb 26, 2014 15:41:21 GMT
The proposal for Aldgate seems confusing in my opinion. I assume TFL has made up their mind already! I was listening to Eddie Nestor's Drivetime last week, in regards to Vauxhall Bus Station... I've found the link to Listen-Again! You have two days to listen before the show is no longer available. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01rpg7f |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 26, 2014 19:27:47 GMT
Typical Lambeth - when they have a good thing on their hands (Vauxhall Bus Station), they then want to destroy it. Vauxhall Bus Station should be what all London bus stations are built to - nice airy places where all routes meet and interchange is made as easy as possible.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 20:31:19 GMT
Typical Lambeth - when they have a good thing on their hands (Vauxhall Bus Station), they then want to destroy it. Vauxhall Bus Station should be what all London bus stations are built to - nice airy places where all routes meet and interchange is made as easy as possible. Maybe I am missing something but really can't see the point of the Aldgate changes. So the 15 will serve Aldgate Bus station now? At least that will provide two buses towards Blackwall for when the 115 is running a bit ropey. Also I don't get why the 40 can't get to the bus station after the changes? how does the 40 approach Aldgate now? |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 26, 2014 22:10:14 GMT
Typical Lambeth - when they have a good thing on their hands (Vauxhall Bus Station), they then want to destroy it. Vauxhall Bus Station should be what all London bus stations are built to - nice airy places where all routes meet and interchange is made as easy as possible. Maybe I am missing something but really can't see the point of the Aldgate changes. So the 15 will serve Aldgate Bus station now? At least that will provide two buses towards Blackwall for when the 115 is running a bit ropey. Also I don't get why the 40 can't get to the bus station after the changes? how does the 40 approach Aldgate now? Apologies in advance but why have you quoted my post which has nothing to do with what your asking? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 22:38:08 GMT
Maybe I am missing something but really can't see the point of the Aldgate changes. So the 15 will serve Aldgate Bus station now? At least that will provide two buses towards Blackwall for when the 115 is running a bit ropey. Also I don't get why the 40 can't get to the bus station after the changes? how does the 40 approach Aldgate now? Apologies in advance but why have you quoted my post which has nothing to do with what your asking? a simple error no biggy |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 26, 2014 22:50:52 GMT
Apologies in advance but why have you quoted my post which has nothing to do with what your asking? a simple error no biggy Cool, was just asking, thanks for letting me know. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 23:08:43 GMT
Maybe I am missing something but really can't see the point of the Aldgate changes. The Mayor has a new cycling strategy aimed at removing and simplifying gyratories and junctions that have seen hundreds of cyclists and pedestrians killed in just the last few years. Changes to bus service in places like Aldgate and Vauxhall are the result of them having new road layouts. This is the map of the locations where they intend to make safer: www.london.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Better_Junctions_A3_Feb%202014.pdf |
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Post by snoggle on Feb 26, 2014 23:53:20 GMT
Typical Lambeth - when they have a good thing on their hands (Vauxhall Bus Station), they then want to destroy it. Vauxhall Bus Station should be what all London bus stations are built to - nice airy places where all routes meet and interchange is made as easy as possible. I think this is much more to do with the Mayoral policy on removing gyratory road systems and TfL are the people developing the options for revising the road layout and dealing with the public transport consequences. Lambeth have an important but secondary role from what I can tell. I am sure some group members can recall what the old Vauxhall was like and it was a dire place to catch a bus even if you could work out which subway exit to use to get out from the tube to the bus. The bus station is a vast improvement as it centralises all services and is convenient for the tube and railway stations. I cannot see users being remotely happy with losing Vauxhall Bus Station but the public consultation will only take place *after* TfL have decided on their preferred non bus station option and Lambeth have signed that off. And people are cynical about TfL's approach to consultation!?   |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2014 21:16:15 GMT
The new proposal will definitely make it more inconvenient to change buses. At present you can catch any bus at St Botolph's Street which made hoping off and on buses a lot more easier and safer.
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