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Post by sid on May 22, 2014 21:12:00 GMT
I thought the whole ring road idea was an unmitigated disaster with parts of the town destroyed and much of the legacy still remains today but there are at least plans to make Wellesley Road more asthetically pleasing which apparently includes filling in the underpass. There is the bottleneck you mentioned at the northern end of Wellesley Road and another at the western end of the flyover where the original plan to widen the road never happened and another at the end of Roman Way heading towards Mitcham, we've ended up with a half baked shambles. Just to think this whole area would have been re-developed anyway in the 1960s should the plans for the missing northern bit of the Croydon Inner Ring Road had ever come to fruition, in these plans the current bus station would not have existed, instead given over to the ring road, with a new bus station in the middle of the roundabout junction formed by Wellesey Road and the northern Inner Ring Road. It seems silly only three sides of the Ring Road were ever built! www.cbrd.co.uk/indepth/croydonringroad/history.shtml |
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Post by londonbusboy on May 22, 2014 23:42:06 GMT
Steve i agree with you. Yesterday i was waiting for a 405 to move off its stop so i could get to mine, i didnt like the look of that yellow railing so i waited in the end i couldnt wait no more and did manage to get through. Another issue well the 75 stop is if there is another bus on it there are stupid blue railings which prevent you from picking up passengers you have to wait for the one in front to move. That new bus station looks cramped for passengers how will they all stand there and get past each other. Yes, that blue railings is badly placed. I guess its situated there to stop passengers from missing the step as the kerb goes in an angle at that point. When there's another bus in front (especially the 410 as they do their live changeover at that stop) then I just stop just before the blue railings and pick up passengers there. Of course, I be blocking the bus stop behind (the stop for routes 166/405/407/455/T33) and stopping buses from serving their stop correctly. One time i was going into West Croydon and a 75 that got turned was waiting his time but was parked on the other side of the yellow barrier (where we go through to serve the stop) i thought well done mate. When i got turned at West Croydon once i just waited at the stop in which the passengers have to get off but further forwards so other buses can serve it, do my bcr check then when its time to leave go round and into the bus station. I didnt have time to go round the bus station park in the parking area then drive round again |
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Post by londonbusboy on May 22, 2014 23:49:09 GMT
I thought the whole ring road idea was an unmitigated disaster with parts of the town destroyed and much of the legacy still remains today but there are at least plans to make Wellesley Road more asthetically pleasing which apparently includes filling in the underpass. There is the bottleneck you mentioned at the northern end of Wellesley Road and another at the western end of the flyover where the original plan to widen the road never happened and another at the end of Roman Way heading towards Mitcham, we've ended up with a half baked shambles. Just to think this whole area would have been re-developed anyway in the 1960s should the plans for the missing northern bit of the Croydon Inner Ring Road had ever come to fruition, in these plans the current bus station would not have existed, instead given over to the ring road, with a new bus station in the middle of the roundabout junction formed by Wellesey Road and the northern Inner Ring Road. It seems silly only three sides of the Ring Road were ever built! www.cbrd.co.uk/indepth/croydonringroad/history.shtmlWhen you say fill in the underpass i assume that would mean all traffic being on the same level? if true im sure it will cause more traffic with those tram friendly traffic lights |
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Post by vjaska on May 23, 2014 0:33:37 GMT
I thought the whole ring road idea was an unmitigated disaster with parts of the town destroyed and much of the legacy still remains today but there are at least plans to make Wellesley Road more asthetically pleasing which apparently includes filling in the underpass. There is the bottleneck you mentioned at the northern end of Wellesley Road and another at the western end of the flyover where the original plan to widen the road never happened and another at the end of Roman Way heading towards Mitcham, we've ended up with a half baked shambles. When you say fill in the underpass i assume that would mean all traffic being on the same level? if true im sure it will cause more traffic with those tram friendly traffic lights Filling in the underpass would also mean traffic being diverted down Lansdowne Road & Dingwall Road as the slip road is just a tram track & a bus lane - that would mean lots of traffic congestion and also seeing as Dingwall Road has a bus only lane towards East Croydon, you wouldn't be able to reach Park Lane - currently, the underpass does an excellent job of funnelling traffic and it would be mistake to fill it in. |
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Post by sid on May 23, 2014 14:12:32 GMT
When you say fill in the underpass i assume that would mean all traffic being on the same level? if true im sure it will cause more traffic with those tram friendly traffic lights Filling in the underpass would also mean traffic being diverted down Lansdowne Road & Dingwall Road as the slip road is just a tram track & a bus lane - that would mean lots of traffic congestion and also seeing as Dingwall Road has a bus only lane towards East Croydon, you wouldn't be able to reach Park Lane - currently, the underpass does an excellent job of funnelling traffic and it would be mistake to fill it in. Yes filling in the underpass does seem a bit drastic but Wellesley Road is pretty unpleasant, almost an urban motorway going through the town centre. The underpass is also used by OOS buses between West Croydon and TC. |
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Post by vjaska on May 23, 2014 14:56:15 GMT
Filling in the underpass would also mean traffic being diverted down Lansdowne Road & Dingwall Road as the slip road is just a tram track & a bus lane - that would mean lots of traffic congestion and also seeing as Dingwall Road has a bus only lane towards East Croydon, you wouldn't be able to reach Park Lane - currently, the underpass does an excellent job of funnelling traffic and it would be mistake to fill it in. Yes filling in the underpass does seem a bit drastic but Wellesley Road is pretty unpleasant, almost an urban motorway going through the town centre. The underpass is also used by OOS buses between West Croydon and TC. Personally, I don't find it unpleasant as I don't mind the 1960's building style though I imagine I'm in a minority on this one. It is a bit of a nightmare to cross, though the underpass into Whitgift is handy. If this road was narrowed, we could quite easily congestion building up - it's a big shame that the ring road wasn't completed because West Croydon is a dump and London Road is narrow and congested. |
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Post by routew15 on Sept 6, 2014 20:17:11 GMT
- quoted from LOTS
It's on its way! Are you ready Croydon?
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Post by londonbusboy on Sept 7, 2014 11:55:52 GMT
- quoted from LOTS It's on its way! Are you ready Croydon? Looking forward to it  |
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Post by Steve80 on Sept 8, 2014 5:17:00 GMT
- quoted from LOTS It's on its way! Are you ready Croydon? Looking forward to it I hope you are because the 157 will no longer be able to help you 75 drivers as we be stuck in traffic or cut short away from Croydon |
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Post by londonbusboy on Sept 27, 2014 20:15:13 GMT
Well the advertising has kicked in for the demolition of West Croydon Bus Station. I found a leaflet on my 75 which has obviously been handed out informing passengers where alternative bus stops are. I also noticed large stickers placed on various panes of glass at the bus station also telling people. Here's a brief quote from the leaflet "Buses will not stop at the bus station until completion of work in early 2016 In addition to the bus station works, London Road (southbound) will close within a week or two until 21st November 2014, Buses 60, 64, 109, 198, 250, N64 and N109 will not serve bus stops between Broad Green and Wellesley Road (Whitgift Centre). Route 289 towards Elmers End will also be diverted but will continue to serve the bus stop in Poplar Walk." and to confirm it will close on Saturday 4th October I just hope the alternative bus stops dont get congested with buses having to spend extra time at them, namely the Whitgift Centre EDIT: There is also a link on the leaflet but for some reason either TfLs site is rubbish or my laptop wont load it properly. www.tfl.gov.uk/west-croydon-buses |
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Post by snoggle on Sept 27, 2014 22:40:24 GMT
Well the advertising has kicked in for the demolition of West Croydon Bus Station. I found a leaflet on my 75 which has obviously been handed out informing passengers where alternative bus stops are. I also noticed large stickers placed on various panes of glass at the bus station also telling people. Here's a brief quote from the leaflet "Buses will not stop at the bus station until completion of work in early 2016 In addition to the bus station works, London Road (southbound) will close within a week or two until 21st November 2014, Buses 60, 64, 109, 198, 250, N64 and N109 will not serve bus stops between Broad Green and Wellesley Road (Whitgift Centre). Route 289 towards Elmers End will also be diverted but will continue to serve the bus stop in Poplar Walk." and to confirm it will close on Saturday 4th October I just hope the alternative bus stops dont get congested with buses having to spend extra time at them, namely the Whitgift Centre EDIT: There is also a link on the leaflet but for some reason either TfLs site is rubbish or my laptop wont load it properly. www.tfl.gov.uk/west-croydon-busesThe web page isn't working for me either. Not the first time TfL provide links that fail on the new site. There is a new Spider Map for West Croydon from next weekend. I think we can conclude without a shadow of a doubt that people are going to be mightily fed up with the vastly extended distances between West Croydon station and the nearest bus stop for many services - a trudge through a ghastly subway to Wellesley Road in many cases. < makes note to avoid Croydon for 2 years >  |
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Post by vjaska on Sept 27, 2014 23:40:41 GMT
Well the advertising has kicked in for the demolition of West Croydon Bus Station. I found a leaflet on my 75 which has obviously been handed out informing passengers where alternative bus stops are. I also noticed large stickers placed on various panes of glass at the bus station also telling people. Here's a brief quote from the leaflet "Buses will not stop at the bus station until completion of work in early 2016 In addition to the bus station works, London Road (southbound) will close within a week or two until 21st November 2014, Buses 60, 64, 109, 198, 250, N64 and N109 will not serve bus stops between Broad Green and Wellesley Road (Whitgift Centre). Route 289 towards Elmers End will also be diverted but will continue to serve the bus stop in Poplar Walk." and to confirm it will close on Saturday 4th October I just hope the alternative bus stops dont get congested with buses having to spend extra time at them, namely the Whitgift Centre EDIT: There is also a link on the leaflet but for some reason either TfLs site is rubbish or my laptop wont load it properly. www.tfl.gov.uk/west-croydon-busesThe web page isn't working for me either. Not the first time TfL provide links that fail on the new site. There is a new Spider Map for West Croydon from next weekend. I think we can conclude without a shadow of a doubt that people are going to be mightily fed up with the vastly extended distances between West Croydon station and the nearest bus stop for many services - a trudge through a ghastly subway to Wellesley Road in many cases. < makes note to avoid Croydon for 2 years > Shopping in Croydon just got interesting lol. |
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Post by YY13VKP on Oct 3, 2014 20:34:27 GMT
- quoted from LOTS It's on its way! Are you ready Croydon? Thats tomorrow! Where are buses going to terminate whilst the bus station is closed? |
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Post by londonbusboy on Oct 3, 2014 22:03:42 GMT
Our 75s had a scrolling message but what made me laugh was the rebuilding part but i dont think they could fit it all in so it read 'rebuildin'
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Post by londonbusboy on Oct 4, 2014 8:13:05 GMT
- quoted from LOTS It's on its way! Are you ready Croydon? Thats tomorrow! Where are buses going to terminate whilst the bus station is closed? Got this from the Croydon Advertiser "Most buses that usually stop at the terminal will now stop at the bus stop after while buses that usually terminate there will stop at St Michael’s Road, a two minute walk away." |
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Just to think this whole area would have been re-developed anyway in the 1960s should the plans for the missing northern bit of the Croydon Inner Ring Road had ever come to fruition, in these plans the current bus station would not have existed, instead given over to the ring road, with a new bus station in the middle of the roundabout junction formed by Wellesey Road and the northern Inner Ring Road.
