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Post by snoggle on Jul 30, 2014 15:17:28 GMT
The Mayor has issued an updated 2050 Infrastructure Plan for public consultation. There is a vast amount of information in the various documents. Main web page for 2050 planThere is a separate transport plan with a vast amount of potential schemes like a Bakerloo Line Extension, 6 car Overground, more control over NR services, more line upgrades, enhanced night tube services, more frequent DLR services, more trams, GOBLIN to Barking Riverside and Thamesmead, PED doors more widely on LU lines. Unfortunately the timescales set out for some of the schemes are decidedly unadventurous. Transport Supporting PaperI am sure group members will find it interesting - I've barely skim read the transport document never mind everything else. There isn't a huge amount about buses unfortunately. There are passing references to some bus transit links, electric buses and buses being needed to link some areas. I think this is a massive missed opportunity as buses do offer plenty of opportunity for short term improvements until rail links are built. As this is a consultation process people can respond to the plan and give their feedback on what is needed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 23:12:40 GMT
Wow, I would been ancient if the year reaches towards 2050!
What else would be invented, flying cars?
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Post by mondraker275 on Jul 31, 2014 9:17:59 GMT
Wow, I would been ancient if the year reaches towards 2050! What else would be invented, flying cars? Driverless cars...oh wait
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Post by John tuthill on Jul 31, 2014 9:45:16 GMT
Wow, I would been ancient if the year reaches towards 2050! What else would be invented, flying cars? Driverless cars...oh wait All those backseat drivers will have to go into rehab. See MACs cartoon in todays Daily Mail-priceless
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 11:17:19 GMT
2050 is too long to wait. Paris , being nearest comparable city, has commited to hybrid / electric buses by 2024. The rail systems are being automated and improved. Extensions are built quickly.
I think there are too many boroughs in London that are often at loggerheads. They don't work together. Bromley for example is run by people who pretend they are in the Kent countryside and have nothing to do with London.
A new Mayor needs to make it his / her priority to first make some quick wins and fast.
Some express routes into London , with an integrated orbital service linking the express routes terminals would be one idea quite achievable. I would consider physically sperating bus lanes from the roads giving some protection for other road users. A simple raised hump where the solid white lines are should be OK. Enforce these lanes 24:7 . Offer these new express routes to tender in a similar fashion to rail networks, with ten year contracts and sponsorship deals available attracting funding from private sector.
Redeploy buses used on existing services where demand is taken onto the express services to enhance surburban routes in need of extra resources.
Ensure every high density housing area has 24/7 bus network linking areas to nearest transport hub, Hospitals, amenities.
Ensure every day route within the GLA area runs daily .
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Post by twobellstogo on Jul 31, 2014 11:54:30 GMT
Perhaps it's me, but the transport paper won't load, either on my laptop or my iPad
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 15:50:49 GMT
I still think the Mayor should just annex everywhere within the M25 and become a city state.
Surely there is an arguement for a radical overhaul of the powers of borough and city hall; the balance is still in favour of the boroughs stemming from a period when Londons right self determinance was abolished. Strategic decisions and inter-borough matters should be transferred to the GLA, leaving the boroughs free to concentrate on local issues. The ability to raise and retain finance is a must - power without means is pointless. But responsibility without power is unfair.
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Post by twobellstogo on Aug 1, 2014 10:53:20 GMT
Perhaps it's me, but the transport paper won't load, either on my laptop or my iPad Works today Initial thought : how unambitious Would have preferred to see two new tube lines proposed (one SE-W, one S-NW) as well as the Bakerloo extension, much quicker Crossrail 2 implementation, as well as more concrete proposals for Crossrail 3, and a whole lot more bus improvements. rdg976, you are quite right : Paris have the right idea. If they can get their cleanliness and graffiti problem under control (it's much worse than in London), then Paris would be pretty much on perfect lines.
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Post by snoggle on Aug 1, 2014 14:48:43 GMT
Perhaps it's me, but the transport paper won't load, either on my laptop or my iPad Works today Initial thought : how unambitious Would have preferred to see two new tube lines proposed (one SE-W, one S-NW) as well as the Bakerloo extension, much quicker Crossrail 2 implementation, as well as more concrete proposals for Crossrail 3, and a whole lot more bus improvements. rdg976, you are quite right : Paris have the right idea. If they can get their cleanliness and graffiti problem under control (it's much worse than in London), then Paris would be pretty much on perfect lines. It's the unambitious bit that I really agree with. The timescales for some of the "plans" would embarrass a slug on crutches . It's really going to take 31 years to build the Bakerloo Line extension and automate the line? While I appreciate London is not China I thought I'd look at Shanghai and Beijing to see what they're planning to do. Both cities have vast subway networks with most lines built in recent years. The expansion plans for each city are vast with up to 13 new lines or extensions planned in each city over the next few years. Hong Kong is currently building 2 brand new lines plus 3 extensions to the MTR. Singapore is building 2 new lines, 3 extensions plus has three further lines planned to be built by 2030. I'd argue our transport needs are not so far behind those of Hong Kong and Singapore but we've not got anything with the same ambition as those places. We do have the Met Line extension, the Battersea extension, Crossrail and Thameslink under way but only one of those projects (Crossrail) is truly ambitious. The lack of comment on buses is deeply disappointing. It's as if they are irrelevant to the future development of London. There's also nothing said about protecting / expanding provision for bus garages, bus stands and bus stations. If you need to offer more service you need more of all of this infrastructure to do it.
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