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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 21:12:44 GMT
So Boris Johnson has decided that next year, he will stand down as mayor so he can run as MP for the House of Commons. Personally I think this is the worst thing that's ever happened to London since WWII (of course, that's an exaggeration). m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28673113 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 21:33:23 GMT
So Boris Johnson has decided that next year, he will stand down as mayor so he can run as MP for the House of Commons. Personally I think this is the worst thing that's ever happened to London since WWII (of course, that's an exaggeration). m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28673113Wrong - He plans to run as a MP and see out his final year as Mayor. He always only planned to run two terms.... Quote from the link you provided Mr Johnson also promised to serve his term as London mayor, ending in 2016. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 21:41:34 GMT
So Boris Johnson has decided that next year, he will stand down as mayor so he can run as MP for the House of Commons. Personally I think this is the worst thing that's ever happened to London since WWII (of course, that's an exaggeration). m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28673113Wrong - He plans to run as a MP and see out his final year as Mayor. He always only planned to run two terms.... Quote from the link you provided Mr Johnson also promised to serve his term as London mayor, ending in 2016.That is what I meant when I said next year. Guess I should have made it clearer. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 21:42:27 GMT
Wrong - He plans to run as a MP and see out his final year as Mayor. He always only planned to run two terms.... Quote from the link you provided Mr Johnson also promised to serve his term as London mayor, ending in 2016.That is what I meant when I said next year. Guess I should have made it clearer. No worries but next year is 2015 for me  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 21:51:59 GMT
That is what I meant when I said next year. Guess I should have made it clearer. No worries but next year is 2015 for me I'm so stupid... |
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Post by snoggle on Aug 6, 2014 22:14:54 GMT
So Boris Johnson has decided that next year, he will stand down as mayor so he can run as MP for the House of Commons. Personally I think this is the worst thing that's ever happened to London since WWII (of course, that's an exaggeration). m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28673113I wish he was stepping down at midnight so we can elect someone who has a clue and might actually do something. Still at least he has put an end to one set of endless speculation and will undoubtedly trigger plenty more speculation within the Tory Party but it'll have little or no bearing on London for many years. |
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Post by ohdear on Aug 6, 2014 22:53:39 GMT
It just shows that anyone acting as a buffoon can get elected and elected again despite the financial cost of his policies to Londoners
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Post by twobellstogo on Aug 7, 2014 8:49:37 GMT
So Boris Johnson has decided that next year, he will stand down as mayor so he can run as MP for the House of Commons. Personally I think this is the worst thing that's ever happened to London since WWII (of course, that's an exaggeration). m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28673113I wish he was stepping down at midnight so we can elect someone who has a clue and might actually do something. Still at least he has put an end to one set of endless speculation and will undoubtedly trigger plenty more speculation within the Tory Party but it'll have little or no bearing on London for many years. Very rare that I disagree with you, snoggle (except maybe on the LT  ), but Johnson very much does have a clue, and full well knows the problems London faces. He knows exactly what he is doing. The trouble is, Johnson's ego is such that it obliterates anything in its path. Hence the Boris Bikes, the Boris Bus, the Boris Dangleway (Emirates Airline, for those who didn't work that one out!), and while all three of these are very nice things to have, 'nice to have' is rarely a good solution to deeper problems, and it's not just with transport, either. |
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Post by snoggle on Aug 7, 2014 10:07:14 GMT
I wish he was stepping down at midnight so we can elect someone who has a clue and might actually do something. Still at least he has put an end to one set of endless speculation and will undoubtedly trigger plenty more speculation within the Tory Party but it'll have little or no bearing on London for many years. Very rare that I disagree with you, snoggle (except maybe on the LT ), but Johnson very much does have a clue, and full well knows the problems London faces. He knows exactly what he is doing. The trouble is, Johnson's ego is such that it obliterates anything in its path. Hence the Boris Bikes, the Boris Bus, the Boris Dangleway (Emirates Airline, for those who didn't work that one out!), and while all three of these are very nice things to have, 'nice to have' is rarely a good solution to deeper problems, and it's not just with transport, either. Well let's compromise by saying he has a clue but his solutions are not very good and he doesn't seem able to "crack the whip" to get things done other than closing down police and fire stations so they can be sold to property developers. He made a fatal mistake by cancelling so much planning effort on transport and housing and slashing funding that we now have a massive problem in that knowledge has been lost and work is having to be redone. This means we have lost about 4-5 years worth of momentum. Mr Livingstone yesterday made the very pertinent point that whoever succeeds Boris will have to get moving very quickly come 2016 or else they'll achieve nothing either. This is simply a reflection of how long it takes to plan, fund, procure and build stuff. Overall this may mean a lost decade which we can't afford to lose. Each Mayoralty has to both do stuff and plan stuff for the next Mayoral term. It doesn't seem to have dawned on the political parties that there are areas of consensus (transport, policing, housing, fire, health) where long term planning and funding would work for them and Londoners to give a rolling programme of improvement and good value for money. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:32:01 GMT
All I'm going to say is...
He was elected for two terms for a reason.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 7, 2014 17:40:20 GMT
I think Boris has done ok during his two terms though he hasn't exactly set the place on fire if I'm being really honest. Only policies I really didn't like of his was the closing of fire & police stations and the NBfL.
The reason he got a second term was because he was honest in that he couldn't cut fares unlike Ken whose 7% fare cut would never of been able to be achieved given the financial state at that time. He also can appeal to working classes with his personality despite being a wealthy Etonian unlike just about every other Tory - that counts for a lot in politics.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 18:15:01 GMT
All I'm going to say is... He was elected for two terms for a reason. IMO, the New Routemaster. Nothing more nothing less. All because passengers want the freedom to hop on and off between stops, but the rear door makes it only part time. But it also helped Leeds to trial out the New Routemaster all thanks to First Group's alternative NGT proposal. No don't hyjack it to another NRM thread... Edit: On the Letterman show, Boris admits that he only do two Mayoral terms. www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZdY-qJRMG0I agree there should be term limits. |
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Post by COBO on Aug 7, 2014 18:54:57 GMT
All I'm going to say is... He was elected for two terms for a reason. IMO, the New Routemaster. Nothing more nothing less. All because passengers want the freedom to hop on and off between stops, but the rear door makes it only part time. But it also helped Leeds to trial out the New Routemaster all thanks to First Group's alternative NGT proposal. No don't hyjack it to another NRM thread... Edit: On the Letterman show, Boris admits that he only do two Mayoral terms. www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZdY-qJRMG0I agree there should be term limits. I think there are other reasons why Boris was elected Mayor. I don't think that the New Routemaster was the reason. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 19:07:14 GMT
IMO, the New Routemaster. Nothing more nothing less. All because passengers want the freedom to hop on and off between stops, but the rear door makes it only part time. But it also helped Leeds to trial out the New Routemaster all thanks to First Group's alternative NGT proposal. No don't hyjack it to another NRM thread... Edit: On the Letterman show, Boris admits that he only do two Mayoral terms. www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZdY-qJRMG0I agree there should be term limits. I think there are other reasons why Boris was elected Mayor. I don't think that the New Routemaster was the reason. I believe it's few things, they want few of his stuff which he implemented like the Cycle hire as it's nicknamed the Boris Bikes. He became the ambassador of the London 2012 Olympics for being an 'icon' of London. But he done it not just for the New Routemaster, its for his legacy and cult of personality. |
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Post by snoggle on Aug 7, 2014 19:22:14 GMT
All I'm going to say is... He was elected for two terms for a reason. Yes the two terms are self evident but the reasons really are not. He only won by 62,000 votes in 2012 against Ken Livingstone who endured a nasty and vicious media campaign and whose campaign was somewhat lacklustre and lacking in direction. If Boris had won by a much larger margin then there'd be no argument but he only just got in on second preference votes. I can clearly remember watching the telly to see the result and there was a palpable sense that he had actually *lost* because the count had taken so long to do and verify. As in much of British politics I think the London Mayoralty can really only be won by a candidate for two terms in a row. Your track record and mistakes will find you out by the end of 8 years - Ken tried to push it and lost in 2008 and lost again in 2012. Even ignoring the wider political ambitions I think Boris has concluded that he would struggle to win again in 2016. There is far too much emerging criticism of his policies and the local council elections this year don't bode well for the Tory vote come 2016. In fact the Tory control of London borough councils has declined right through Boris's time as Mayor so you can question what positive impact he's had on the Tory vote. |
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), but Johnson very much does have a clue, and full well knows the problems London faces. He knows exactly what he is doing. The trouble is, Johnson's ego is such that it obliterates anything in its path. Hence the Boris Bikes, the Boris Bus, the Boris Dangleway (Emirates Airline, for those who didn't work that one out!), and while all three of these are very nice things to have, 'nice to have' is rarely a good solution to deeper problems, and it's not just with transport, either.
