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Post by Volvo on Oct 27, 2014 22:39:15 GMT
According to londonbusroutes.net, states thay route 44's PVR will be increased to 20 and route 185's PVR will be increased to 24. 'MrEdd' was nearly bang on with his prediction - currently the 44 has a PVR of 17 and the 185 has a PVR of 20 so the 44 rises by 3 and 185 rises by 4. Funnily enough when I was looking at these routes 'for fantasy routes' I had always thouht the Pvr of the 44 should be 20 and the 185 24. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 12:54:29 GMT
Can,t wait for this Saturday to come when 34 and 192 routes changing operators, i may even drive the 192 on its first day with GAL
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Post by snoggle on Oct 28, 2014 20:02:37 GMT
Can,t wait for this Saturday to come when 34 and 192 routes changing operators, i may even drive the 192 on its first day with GAL You're a week early! The changes occur on 8th November together with the T Hale Bus Station opening. |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Oct 29, 2014 10:38:32 GMT
The 185 has become more busier in the last 18 months or so, especially between Camberwell Green and Forest Hill at all times of the day. I've seen vehicles full to the brim even on a Sunday evening.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 11:40:32 GMT
Can,t wait for this Saturday to come when 34 and 192 routes changing operators, i may even drive the 192 on its first day with GAL You're a week early! The changes occur on 8th November together with the T Hale Bus Station opening. yes i knew it, sorry I got it mixed up too excited. |
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Post by snowman on Nov 7, 2014 21:03:55 GMT
Thought this might be of interest, shows some of the road changes, with dates, update on changes at Tottenham Court Road station, and quite a lot of other info expected to happen through to late 2015 as the station rebuild continues Tottenham Court Road update link |
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Post by routew15 on Nov 7, 2014 21:40:18 GMT
Thought this might be of interest, shows some of the road changes, with dates, update on changes at Tottenham Court Road station, and quite a lot of other info expected to happen through to late 2015 as the station rebuild continues Tottenham Court Road update linkIt's a shame that Central Line passengers do not get to reap the benefits of the new station for another year. But i hope the station staff enjoy the 'quite' of just one line running through TCR, because it about to get a whole lot busier from 2015 onwards. Maybe it is just me but I think that instead of demolishing the old ticket hall wouldn't it make more sense to upgrade and connect the two ticket halls (similar to what they did at Kings Cross St Pancras with the Northern and Eastern Ticket Halls), this way there is station capacity for all 3 lines and it also safeguards capacity for Crossrail 2. |
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Post by snoggle on Nov 7, 2014 21:54:55 GMT
Thought this might be of interest, shows some of the road changes, with dates, update on changes at Tottenham Court Road station, and quite a lot of other info expected to happen through to late 2015 as the station rebuild continues Tottenham Court Road update linkAs an educated guess, looking at upcoming station and track closures affecting TCR, I would say the new ticket hall may open for use from Monday 12 January 2015. Having gone past TCR on a bus last weekend and deliberately looked at the Charing Cross Road end I'd say they were running somewhat behind schedule. No obvious sign of the roadway being close to completion right through the site. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2014 22:49:07 GMT
Thought this might be of interest, shows some of the road changes, with dates, update on changes at Tottenham Court Road station, and quite a lot of other info expected to happen through to late 2015 as the station rebuild continues Tottenham Court Road update linkIt's a shame that Central Line passengers do not get to reap the benefits of the new station for another year. But i hope the station staff enjoy the 'quite' of just one line running through TCR, because it about to get a whole lot busier from 2015 onwards. Maybe it is just me but I think that instead of demolishing the old ticket hall wouldn't it make more sense to upgrade and connect the two ticket halls (similar to what they did at Kings Cross St Pancras with the Northern and Eastern Ticket Halls), this way there is station capacity for all 3 lines and it also safeguards capacity for Crossrail 2.Only seems like yesterday work started here. |
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Post by snoggle on Nov 7, 2014 23:07:27 GMT
It's a shame that Central Line passengers do not get to reap the benefits of the new station for another year. But i hope the station staff enjoy the 'quite' of just one line running through TCR, because it about to get a whole lot busier from 2015 onwards. Maybe it is just me but I think that instead of demolishing the old ticket hall wouldn't it make more sense to upgrade and connect the two ticket halls (similar to what they did at Kings Cross St Pancras with the Northern and Eastern Ticket Halls), this way there is station capacity for all 3 lines and it also safeguards capacity for Crossrail 2. If you think about what has been done then the new ticket hall surrounds the old one. What they have done is work on the Northern Line and Crossrail escalator shafts and corridors first and will be opening up for the Northern Line. They will then knock through from the old ticket hall into the new one and combine it all together as the existing overloaded escalator shaft will become the main way down to the Central Line when the old hall is integrated into the new one. It's quite a clever way of doing the work and keeping the old station working right up to the point some of the new bits can be brought into service. A lot of the "old" station will be upgraded and linked into the new build. We'll see a fair amount of the new build in Jan then more in the Summer and then all the LU bits in 2016. It's then a 2 year wait for the big Crossrail bits to be revealed plus the western ticket hall which is primarily for Crossrail but will also give access to the Central Line. |
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Post by snowman on Nov 18, 2014 19:39:55 GMT
I'll include this in this thread, a number of bus stops are due to be relocated as part of Crossrail station works See attached list (in notes to Editors section at bottom) artists impressions I like the one of Southall with deckers in London United colours once scheme is done in 2018 |
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Post by M1199 on Nov 18, 2014 21:52:38 GMT
I'll include this in this thread, a number of bus stops are due to be relocated as part of Crossrail station works See attached list (in notes to Editors section at bottom) artists impressions I like the one of Southall with deckers in London United colours once scheme is done in 2018 Im glad they're gonna do something with West Drayton, it's not one of the most welcoming or appealing places in the daylight let alone the night to be waiting for a bus. Looking at the artists impression's photo, I don't know where that footbridge across the canal will go to as opposite the station there is all industrial units. I wonder if they'll landscape, between the railway and the canal all the way up from the station to the power plant bridge (Horton Bridge Rd) |
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Post by vjaska on Nov 19, 2014 2:40:08 GMT
I'll include this in this thread, a number of bus stops are due to be relocated as part of Crossrail station works See attached list (in notes to Editors section at bottom) artists impressions I like the one of Southall with deckers in London United colours once scheme is done in 2018 Im glad they're gonna do something with West Drayton, it's not one of the most welcoming or appealing places in the daylight let alone the night to be waiting for a bus. Looking at the artists impression's photo, I don't know where that footbridge across the canal will go to as opposite the station there is all industrial units. I wonder if they'll landscape, between the railway and the canal all the way up from the station to the power plant bridge (Horton Bridge Rd) The one plus point with West Drayton is at least it's easy to interchange between buses  |
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Post by snoggle on Nov 22, 2014 12:28:56 GMT
I see the curse of daft headway frequencies is spreading. Orpington's buses are now seemingly incapable of running at even intervals so people have to cope with nonsenses like 20-23 min headways.
Having looked at the performance reports for the R routes that have been changed there is no great issue except on the R8. This is doubly ironic given the R8 has had widened headways for a long while and yet performance has gone down the toilet - one period have less than 50% of the bus running on time against a target of 82% and yet there have been minor tweaks to timings on this route rather than something more fundamental. Having variable headways of 60-62 minutes on Sundays really is not helpful at all nor is headways wider than 30 minutes. I have to wonder how much of these changes is due to a change in management from the old Metrobus to Go Ahead London.
The widened headways cause problems with Countdown info because people are more likely to see "no bus due" than previously. If TfL's answer to unreliability on lower usage services is just to bork the headways then they need to amend how real time passenger information is provided to give people more reassurance as to when the next bus will turn up. Widening the "arrivals window" to 35 minutes from 29 would be sensible.
I note the 385 is also going to every 70 mins. That won't help the poor pensioners left freezing at bus stops for longer. They should extend the route to Whipps Cross and put another bus on to make it useful and put the headway back to hourly.
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Post by Nathan on Jan 8, 2015 11:50:27 GMT
Just had a look at the service changes page on londonbusroutes.net and noticed the changes for the 205 & 436 cut backs have just disappeared. I also checked the routes on LVF and they appear to be running normal services.
This makes me wonder how reliable the website is...and also makes me wonder if TfL had a plan for these changes in the first place.
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