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Post by John tuthill on Nov 26, 2014 10:48:23 GMT
I'd say that Tottenham and Shoreditch are far more pleasant now, the traffic lights often resembled the starting grid at a grand prix with 2 or 3 lanes of traffic waiting for the green light. Buses are often sent away from their objectives, Park Lane and Tottenham Court Road for example. I'm not sure I agree about Tottenham. The promised cycle lanes have yet to appear meaning cyclists are left to fend for themselves on a 4 lane High Road. Broad Lane jams in both directions on a regular basis as traffic still goes via that route instead of the revised route via Monument Way. The junction near the Bus Garage is now horrendous with regular jams back down past the Police Station. If you're unfortunate enough to need to cross from the High Road to Monument Way then you face having to use five separate crossings or, as most people do, use the old crossing route and take you life in your hands battling the traffic as TfL opted not to put a pedestrian phase on the busiest and most obvious crossing route. TfL have also removed road capacity near Tottenham Hale station causing massive jams back up Watermead Way all day long and have created a bus station that is too small from day one. You have to wonder quite what the point was. As for Shoreditch well I'm not sure it's much better. Great Eastern Street jams solid heading east and Shoreditch High St is still full of traffic - it just runs two way now. Ditto for Old Street. All that's happened is that one or two roads have lost traffic having been on the old gyratory but others have gained traffic to allow certain manoeuvres such as the right turn from Great Eastern St to Bishopsgate which is done by traffic going down Holywell Lane. The simple point here is that there's no real reduction in traffic volume - the traffic is just routed over different roads after tens of millions of pounds have been spent.
Exactly! If it's like this under Boris, imagine it if a deciple of the newt gets in!
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Post by snoggle on Nov 26, 2014 14:39:37 GMT
The simple point here is that there's no real reduction in traffic volume - the traffic is just routed over different roads after tens of millions of pounds have been spent.
Exactly! If it's like this under Boris, imagine it if a deciple of the newt gets in! The difference, though, is that the current policy of "smoothing traffic flow" has left nobody better off because it's just a confused muddled concept. What does it mean really? It's meant bus lanes being removed, it's fiddled about with traffic light timings which have upset pedestrians and road users. We've had endless road works screwing up the road network seemingly forever. We've also a rather non commital policy towards improving the buses and cycling initiatives have been half hearted, delayed and now face major opposition. None of this makes a great deal of sense as there is no obvious hierarchy or priority for the modes that need it. Yes a "newt supporter" might be worse but we might have a more obvious policy about prioritising the modes that need priority thus offering some sort of alternative to car drivers who would probably come bottom of the hierarchy. Trying to please all the people all the time with traffic smoothing just doesn't work. Boris has managed to really upset the taxi trade which is some sort of feat for a Tory Mayor! You could understand Ken upsetting them!
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Post by John tuthill on Nov 26, 2014 15:14:38 GMT
Exactly! If it's like this under Boris, imagine it if a deciple of the newt gets in! The difference, though, is that the current policy of "smoothing traffic flow" has left nobody better off because it's just a confused muddled concept. What does it mean really? It's meant bus lanes being removed, it's fiddled about with traffic light timings which have upset pedestrians and road users. We've had endless road works screwing up the road network seemingly forever. We've also a rather non commital policy towards improving the buses and cycling initiatives have been half hearted, delayed and now face major opposition. None of this makes a great deal of sense as there is no obvious hierarchy or priority for the modes that need it. Yes a "newt supporter" might be worse but we might have a more obvious policy about prioritising the modes that need priority thus offering some sort of alternative to car drivers who would probably come bottom of the hierarchy. Trying to please all the people all the time with traffic smoothing just doesn't work. Boris has managed to really upset the taxi trade which is some sort of feat for a Tory Mayor! You could understand Ken upsetting them! It must be in the Tory genes, Mellor goes on a rant. What do women see in him(PLEASE KEEP IT CLEAN) that picture in the paper he could have been Ken Dodd's love child!
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Apr 24, 2015 21:55:39 GMT
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Post by vjaska on Apr 24, 2015 23:04:40 GMT
Although I knew this would go ahead, it's another silly idea being implemented. Moving the 50's stand is the only good thing about the consultation as it means direct interchange for anyone needing Wandsworth Road. There was nothing wrong with the one way system in the first place.
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