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Post by snoggle on Jan 13, 2015 22:53:50 GMT
Looking at LVF seems no school routes ran in east London - would have thought some effort would have been made to maintain these services at garages where staff had signed on for (Assuming drivers knew the route) Certainly nothing on the 657, 675, 679 or W13 double deck working which are the ones closest to me. A quick zoom through the Romford area routes shows nothing ran where Go Ahead are responsible nor in North London. Arriva did put something out on the 629 and Metroline managed to run a number of school routes.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jan 13, 2015 23:00:44 GMT
Last 185 in service finished at 2200.
Route 40 is still operating with four buses and the 363 with five.
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Post by sid on Jan 13, 2015 23:22:59 GMT
And i bet those who had to work because they either chose to break ranks or not in the union or indeed the depots not in the dispute don't get a thanks. Especially as I'm sure most have been overloaded, abused and generally worked harder than normal. An Abellio driver on the 3 said he had a lot of people thanking him
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jan 13, 2015 23:32:45 GMT
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Post by Connor on Jan 13, 2015 23:46:46 GMT
LOL I wonder if it was like that at Bexleyheath...
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Post by Connor on Jan 13, 2015 23:50:24 GMT
The 89 had 2/3 buses out this morning, then no service. The 486 had a fairly normal service throughout the day, which I was quite happy about.
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Post by Jack on Jan 14, 2015 0:06:41 GMT
I'll definitely be working tomorrow - depending on how many buses CT run we might have to run 2 CAs per bus. So was there about 25 CAs on the few 38s that went out?! Lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 0:10:56 GMT
N9 appears full service so far. And the 33 has started running again !
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Post by Nathan on Jan 14, 2015 0:27:17 GMT
LOL Why am I not surprised this happened in Camberwell...?
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 14, 2015 0:36:05 GMT
Stratford Station was a bit hectic today, not running the 86 meant everyone tried to use the wreck of a Train service known as the Abellio Greater Anglia There seems to be a full double decker service on the 396, yet no service on the 5 for some reason. There is still no 86 operating. The 362, W19 and EL1 seem to be operating out of BE today as well. The 158 and 257 were a joke at Stratford, I saw around 70 people try and board a 257. In other news, BW was a huge disappointment with the 8 and 15 not really running, a few 205s which all left service by 1630, BUT at least 15 277s in service throughout the day. Also BK seem to have decided that the 396 is more important than the 5 and 62. Also there were a lot of buses on the 115 compared to other routes. T didn't run anything. With Arriva, as far as I'm aware, DX had no buses running, while with AE, there wasn't really any 254, a couple of buses on the 106 and a few on the 78. CT Plus were running the 309 but not the 388 or 212 (at least in the morning). SI didn't run the D6 or D7, but ran a limited service on the D8. They also ran 276s only from Newham Hospital to Stratford. There were a few 48's, the only [T] route that had run. Also a few 168's
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Post by vjaska on Jan 14, 2015 0:36:39 GMT
The N2 only has one bus out with VLA2 doing the honours The N3 has two buses out - 2458 & 2479 Only one N68 out on it's lonesome which is WHV2 Lots of 159's heading towards Streatham with just two heading to Marble Arch The 250's night service looks normal - 6 buses currently out Only two 345's out on the night service - E107 & E185
Only another note, the N35, 37, N109, N133 & N137 don't seem to be working on LVF
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 14, 2015 0:43:11 GMT
A strike is always a massive double edge sword. I can think of no strike involving London bus drivers that has got an improvement. I remember Kingston Bus shambles. NB and K went on strike. FW & AV drivers refused to drive through Kingston. The result... Kingston bus and Westlink were born, lower pay all round. TfL could change the tender process , and offer out whole networks instead of individual routes. They could easily do this, which would pit all the firms against one another, and the winner would be the one offering the cheapest pay. Reduced number of bus operating companies as well, and probably cheaper for TfL to manage. There are people out of work who will work for £9.50 per hour , who are Unite to say that's not good enough ? Dont get me wrong, I said earlier I support the right to strike. But look what happened to London Forest ? Well the Olympic bonus strike did get a result which was an improvement. You say there are people wiling to work £9.50 an hour, so then why are now some of the bus companies now getting many vacancies after some years of having a 'waiting list' due to the recession. Now that the recession is over, many are starting to leave to get other jobs.
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Post by westhamgeezer on Jan 14, 2015 0:57:29 GMT
The N2 only has one bus out with VLA2 doing the honours The N3 has two buses out - 2458 & 2479 Only one N68 out on it's lonesome which is WHV2 Lots of 159's heading towards Streatham with just two heading to Marble Arch The 250's night service looks normal - 6 buses currently out Only two 345's out on the night service - E107 & E185 Only another note, the N35, 37, N109, N133 & N137 don't seem to be working on LVF There is nothing wrong with LVF, those routes you mention are not running at the moment. If there is nothing running/nothing has run on the route since 0000 (midnight) then you will get the message "Your input does not match any vehicle or command in our database/Your input appears to be part of a pre 2001 registration......etc" Hope that helps :-)
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Post by snoggle on Jan 14, 2015 1:10:57 GMT
A strike is always a massive double edge sword. I can think of no strike involving London bus drivers that has got an improvement. I remember Kingston Bus shambles. NB and K went on strike. FW & AV drivers refused to drive through Kingston. The result... Kingston bus and Westlink were born, lower pay all round. TfL could change the tender process , and offer out whole networks instead of individual routes. They could easily do this, which would pit all the firms against one another, and the winner would be the one offering the cheapest pay. Reduced number of bus operating companies as well, and probably cheaper for TfL to manage. There are people out of work who will work for £9.50 per hour , who are Unite to say that's not good enough ? Dont get me wrong, I said earlier I support the right to strike. But look what happened to London Forest ? Well the Olympic bonus strike did get a result which was an improvement. You say there are people wiling to work £9.50 an hour, so then why are now some of the bus companies now getting many vacancies after some years of having a 'waiting list' due to the recession. Now that the recession is over, many are starting to leave to get other jobs. The Olympic bonus dispute worked solely because the reputational damage to TfL and the Mayor if the buses didn't work would be so severe and known across the world. In that case the power rested with the unions / drivers and not TfL and the operators. Something had to be done and money was found plus it was a one off event. Your reference to bus cos having vacancies is pertinent and might be a factor that causes some companies to take pause. However that would just mean a company level resolution not a London wide one. The operators aren't daft and won't want to be at risk of losing payment from TfL because performance has gone down the pan. There is also the risk around contract extensions - get shoddy performance during the assessment period and you might lose two extra years income. For all that the unions complain about the tendering system it is a double edged sword. It's perfectly possible for operators to misjudge things and for there to be financial consequences. This is something that the rail unions worked out very quickly for the TOCs - it's very easy to hit the TOC's bottom line which is why train drivers have done relatively well even if old practices and agreements have been "bought out" over the years. London's buses are not quite in the same position but widespread recruitment and staff turnover problems could translate into a nightmare for the bus companies.
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Post by westhamgeezer on Jan 14, 2015 1:16:54 GMT
The N2 only has one bus out with VLA2 doing the honours The N3 has two buses out - 2458 & 2479 Only one N68 out on it's lonesome which is WHV2 Lots of 159's heading towards Streatham with just two heading to Marble Arch The 250's night service looks normal - 6 buses currently out Only two 345's out on the night service - E107 & E185 Only another note, the N35, 37, N109, N133 & N137 don't seem to be working on LVF Just got home in Streatham Hill on DLA 384 on the 250 from brixton station from watching great hammers game....Delayed going home to have a celebratory beer :-) Pretty busy, driver said 250 running full service, only saw one other bus going in the opposite direction unfortunately downstairs and couldnt see what
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