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Post by 6HP502C on Sept 28, 2018 20:54:14 GMT
If the opportunity arose I would preserve an ex Connex V reg Trident - those buses had character and I have many a happy memory of them from my younger years. They're also lovely to drive - ergonomic, powerful and reliable. To this day, drivers and engineers at QB and BC speak of them fondly. I looked up all 1500 odd Tridents built before 2002 and got a list of those which had a ZF transmission in the hope of discovering some which sounded similar to those V plates, which in London was only LU's TA202/3 - I recently enquired about obtaining one but they aren't for sale! Outside of London, it turns out there were a few and also some 5 speed ZF Euro 2s as old as T plate. Some sounded pretty meaty, like this one - youtu.be/25x4KuCpXjw . Most of them survive, though a fair few ex London Tridents have gone off grid.
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Post by busaholic on Sept 28, 2018 21:18:24 GMT
If the opportunity arose I would preserve an ex Connex V reg Trident - those buses had character and I have many a happy memory of them from my younger years. They're also lovely to drive - ergonomic, powerful and reliable. To this day, drivers and engineers at QB and BC speak of them fondly. I looked up all 1500 odd Tridents built before 2002 and got a list of those which had a ZF transmission in the hope of discovering some which sounded similar to those V plates, which in London was only LU's TA202/3 - I recently enquired about obtaining one but they aren't for sale! Outside of London, it turns out there were a few and also some 5 speed ZF Euro 2s as old as T plate. Some sounded pretty meaty, like this one - youtu.be/25x4KuCpXjw . Most of them survive, though a fair few ex London Tridents have gone off grid. Interesting choice. Fond memories of the buses rather than the company, of course, although it was the rail operations that were the real stinkers.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 29, 2018 0:13:14 GMT
If the opportunity arose I would preserve an ex Connex V reg Trident - those buses had character and I have many a happy memory of them from my younger years. They're also lovely to drive - ergonomic, powerful and reliable. To this day, drivers and engineers at QB and BC speak of them fondly. I looked up all 1500 odd Tridents built before 2002 and got a list of those which had a ZF transmission in the hope of discovering some which sounded similar to those V plates, which in London was only LU's TA202/3 - I recently enquired about obtaining one but they aren't for sale! Outside of London, it turns out there were a few and also some 5 speed ZF Euro 2s as old as T plate. Some sounded pretty meaty, like this one - youtu.be/25x4KuCpXjw . Most of them survive, though a fair few ex London Tridents have gone off grid. Although they weren’t in good nick at the end, I always said I’d preserve a Y or 51 reg Connex Trident over the V reg even though the V reg are lovely as well.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 29, 2018 0:17:12 GMT
If the opportunity arose I would preserve an ex Connex V reg Trident - those buses had character and I have many a happy memory of them from my younger years. They're also lovely to drive - ergonomic, powerful and reliable. To this day, drivers and engineers at QB and BC speak of them fondly. I looked up all 1500 odd Tridents built before 2002 and got a list of those which had a ZF transmission in the hope of discovering some which sounded similar to those V plates, which in London was only LU's TA202/3 - I recently enquired about obtaining one but they aren't for sale! Outside of London, it turns out there were a few and also some 5 speed ZF Euro 2s as old as T plate. Some sounded pretty meaty, like this one - youtu.be/25x4KuCpXjw . Most of them survive, though a fair few ex London Tridents have gone off grid. Interesting choice. Fond memories of the buses rather than the company, of course, although it was the rail operations that were the real stinkers. Never really rode on their trains but I heard they were awful but as a bus company, they weren’t too bad. They ran the 196 & 315 very well, the 3 was a bit ropey at times whilst the 322 was literally out of their hands due to a combination of factors that led to it being London’s least reliable route - let’s just say the 2005 Brixton changes that saw the 322 diverted to Clapham Common was the best thing they did.
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Post by galwhv69 on Sept 29, 2018 7:54:29 GMT
Interesting choice. Fond memories of the buses rather than the company, of course, although it was the rail operations that were the real stinkers. Never really rode on their trains but I heard they were awful but as a bus company, they weren’t too bad. They ran the 196 & 315 very well, the 3 was a bit ropey at times whilst the 322 was literally out of their hands due to a combination of factors that led to it being London’s least reliable route - let’s just say the 2005 Brixton changes that saw the 322 diverted to Clapham Common was the best thing they did. I'd assume the 315 at the time did not ise the route it uses today!
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Post by vjaska on Sept 29, 2018 8:50:18 GMT
Never really rode on their trains but I heard they were awful but as a bus company, they weren’t too bad. They ran the 196 & 315 very well, the 3 was a bit ropey at times whilst the 322 was literally out of their hands due to a combination of factors that led to it being London’s least reliable route - let’s just say the 2005 Brixton changes that saw the 322 diverted to Clapham Common was the best thing they did. I'd assume the 315 at the time did not ise the route it uses today! It was the same route as now though we have to remember, congestion was lower then today's levels.
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Post by 6HP502C on Sept 29, 2018 9:51:20 GMT
Interesting choice. Fond memories of the buses rather than the company, of course, although it was the rail operations that were the real stinkers. Indeed - I highly rated their fleet - and so did they apparently, TA1-128 were all nipper than average to start with! Those YT51 Darts were nice as well. Connex's service did leave a lot to be desired in places though - quite a lot of my life was spent waiting for the 3 as the advertised service was almost completely mythical, at least at the Crystal Palace end of the route!
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Post by galwhv69 on Sept 29, 2018 10:08:07 GMT
I'd assume the 315 at the time did not ise the route it uses today! It was the same route as now though we have to remember, congestion was lower then today's levels. But don't tridents not fit under Bedford Hill?
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 29, 2018 14:12:16 GMT
If the opportunity arose I would preserve an ex Connex V reg Trident - those buses had character and I have many a happy memory of them from my younger years. They're also lovely to drive - ergonomic, powerful and reliable. To this day, drivers and engineers at QB and BC speak of them fondly. I looked up all 1500 odd Tridents built before 2002 and got a list of those which had a ZF transmission in the hope of discovering some which sounded similar to those V plates, which in London was only LU's TA202/3 - I recently enquired about obtaining one but they aren't for sale! Outside of London, it turns out there were a few and also some 5 speed ZF Euro 2s as old as T plate. Some sounded pretty meaty, like this one - youtu.be/25x4KuCpXjw . Most of them survive, though a fair few ex London Tridents have gone off grid. To get ones sounding like the V reg ones is going to be very hard, as there was not much tridents boughts in the uprated spec. Most of the euro 2's were the 220bhp standard Cummins C series engine. The ZF gearbox was common with First London and their Tridents. Connex were the only London operator to have the 260bhp version. TfL specs were for the operator to get the lowest powered engine for the bus where possible. A few years after they got strict and banned any high rated engines amongst a list of other things. Stagecoach had a few Y/51 reg euro 2 ZF examples of 4 and 5 speed.
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Post by M1104 on Sept 29, 2018 15:04:24 GMT
Interesting choice. Fond memories of the buses rather than the company, of course, although it was the rail operations that were the real stinkers. Never really rode on their trains but I heard they were awful but as a bus company, they weren’t too bad. They ran the 196 & 315 very well, the 3 was a bit ropey at times whilst the 322 was literally out of their hands due to a combination of factors that led to it being London’s least reliable route - let’s just say the 2005 Brixton changes that saw the 322 diverted to Clapham Common was the best thing they did. A company I regret not trying out as the bus company was then paying monthly.
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Post by VWH1414 on Sept 29, 2018 17:46:29 GMT
If the opportunity arose I would preserve an ex Connex V reg Trident - those buses had character and I have many a happy memory of them from my younger years. They're also lovely to drive - ergonomic, powerful and reliable. To this day, drivers and engineers at QB and BC speak of them fondly. I looked up all 1500 odd Tridents built before 2002 and got a list of those which had a ZF transmission in the hope of discovering some which sounded similar to those V plates, which in London was only LU's TA202/3 - I recently enquired about obtaining one but they aren't for sale! Outside of London, it turns out there were a few and also some 5 speed ZF Euro 2s as old as T plate. Some sounded pretty meaty, like this one - youtu.be/25x4KuCpXjw . Most of them survive, though a fair few ex London Tridents have gone off grid. I believe TA202/203 were bought by Cotswold Green/Ebley Coaches a few months ago. I know that 9718 (V318KGW) was for sale by Ensign not so long ago, no idea if it was sold or not though, but it may still be hanging around Ensigns. I think the rest of the ones in 'The Green Bus' or 'BUS2' livery were mainly scrapped, except V305KGW which was sold privately.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 29, 2018 19:36:55 GMT
It was the same route as now though we have to remember, congestion was lower then today's levels. But don't tridents not fit under Bedford Hill? I never said anything about Tridents on the 315.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 19:39:03 GMT
I would choose DE1150 for preservation. It has good kickdown and amazing speed.
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Post by galwhv69 on Sept 29, 2018 19:46:11 GMT
But don't tridents not fit under Bedford Hill? I never said anything about Tridents on the 315. My apologies,only just realised you were reffering to the company
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Post by vjaska on Sept 29, 2018 20:11:46 GMT
I never said anything about Tridents on the 315. My apologies,only just realised you were reffering to the company No worries.
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