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Post by galwhv69 on Apr 18, 2018 19:35:27 GMT
Heard a pretty wierd announcement today at Sydenham Hill & Herne Hill,it announced that the service was delayed(inthis case it was 2D88 1540 Orpington - London Victoria (SE)
It announced it as 8 coaches then instantly after said that they are sorry about the inconvenience about having 4??? coaches.Straight after that it announced it as 8 coaches again!This also happened during the the train now approaching announcementThe train arrived with 2 4 car sets that were fully operational
Wonder how the system managed to confuse itself
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Post by 700101 on Apr 19, 2018 17:09:27 GMT
Heard a pretty wierd announcement today at Sydenham Hill & Herne Hill,it announced that the service was delayed(inthis case it was 2D88 1540 Orpington - London Victoria (SE) It announced it as 8 coaches then instantly after said that they are sorry about the inconvenience about having 4??? coaches.Straight after that it announced it as 8 coaches again!This also happened during the the train now approaching announcementThe train arrived with 2 4 car sets that were fully operational Wonder how the system managed to confuse itself This does happen a lot, it could be due to one of the units were due to be taken out of service but rectified the problem before the system was updated in time |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 22:20:31 GMT
*Another* Notworker goes up in flames, this time at West Wickham...
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Post by londonbusboy on Apr 28, 2018 16:28:42 GMT
*Another* Notworker goes up in flames, this time at West Wickham... around 25 years old now! |
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Post by 700101 on May 30, 2018 20:45:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2018 4:18:50 GMT
Im betting on Abellio. That's if the government haven't taken it all back under direct control before then. |
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Post by lonmark on May 31, 2018 5:11:38 GMT
For me, no more govia. Have it for many years service in my area. So I want Abellio or stagecoach to give a chance to run.
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Post by busman on May 31, 2018 6:12:12 GMT
Im betting on Abellio. That's if the government haven't taken it all back under direct control before then. Zero chance of the government taking over SouthEastern. To be fair to Govia the service on SouthEastern’s Woolwich branch has improved in the last few months. Seems that this bid has focussed a few minds on operational duties. There are fewer peak cancellations and the timetable padding means that late running trains are able to claw back some lost time between London Bridge and the end terminus to arrive on time. Though I suspect that has something to do with the lack of services running through London Bridge on their GTL franchise! I would have preferred to see the Woolwich branch become part London Overground, but failing Grayling has firmly ruled that out so I don’t have a preference. As long as they can run trains on time that’s the best we can hope for. |
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Post by snoggle on May 31, 2018 11:05:24 GMT
I'm betting on Abellio. That's if the government haven't taken it all back under direct control before then. I wouldn't be surprised if Govia retained it to be honest. Whoever does get the S Eastern franchise is going to have a hell of a time as the franchise mandates new trains but there's so little scope for new sidings to manage a fleet transition nor for new depot space. The franchise area also has a huge back of maintenance and needs a concerted programme of works and that's before any strengthening for new trains (e.g. power upgrades). This franchise is supposed to be Failing Grayling's trial area of "partnership" working with the franchisee working with parties other than Network Rail to deliver better tracks and signals. Roger Ford has reported on a particularly ludicrous proposition of the franchisee implementing a "train management system" which is then handed to Network Rail. Why not simply get Network Rail to deliver it in the first place provided there is a clear signalling and service strategy that ensures that whatever is delivered is appropriate to expected needs on the franchise. South Eastern is also a financial sinkhole because of the enormous cost of the class 395 trains and access fees on High Speed 1. Every trip is heaving subsidised despite the fare premium on HS1 trains. And to think they want *more* High Speed trains with all the extra cost and access fees that means. And then we have the complete lack of vision as to how to get properly increased capacity on commuter services and the usual pathetic "campaigns" from MPs or prospective MPs to freeze the service patterns and times of individual trains in aspic for the next 1,000 years because we mustn't upset any commuters must we. I am sure Mr Failing will put a load of spin on the eventual award to whichever firm wins the franchise but they've got a tough job ahead of them. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 9:46:10 GMT
I'm betting on Abellio. That's if the government haven't taken it all back under direct control before then. I wouldn't be surprised if Govia retained it to be honest. Whoever does get the S Eastern franchise is going to have a hell of a time as the franchise mandates new trains but there's so little scope for new sidings to manage a fleet transition nor for new depot space. The franchise area also has a huge back of maintenance and needs a concerted programme of works and that's before any strengthening for new trains (e.g. power upgrades). This franchise is supposed to be Failing Grayling's trial area of "partnership" working with the franchisee working with parties other than Network Rail to deliver better tracks and signals. Roger Ford has reported on a particularly ludicrous proposition of the franchisee implementing a "train management system" which is then handed to Network Rail. Why not simply get Network Rail to deliver it in the first place provided there is a clear signalling and service strategy that ensures that whatever is delivered is appropriate to expected needs on the franchise. South Eastern is also a financial sinkhole because of the enormous cost of the class 395 trains and access fees on High Speed 1. Every trip is heaving subsidised despite the fare premium on HS1 trains. And to think they want *more* High Speed trains with all the extra cost and access fees that means. And then we have the complete lack of vision as to how to get properly increased capacity on commuter services and the usual pathetic "campaigns" from MPs or prospective MPs to freeze the service patterns and times of individual trains in aspic for the next 1,000 years because we mustn't upset any commuters must we. I am sure Mr Failing will put a load of spin on the eventual award to whichever firm wins the franchise but they've got a tough job ahead of them. HS is fast becoming a victim of its own success. Most routes are heaving , of course peak hours are worst, but summer Sundays and particularly bank hols , down to Ashford , the trains are very very busy. Many Medway people are now using it instead of the non existent Rainham branch of GTR which has deciminated the North Kent line linking Medway - Bluewater- Dartford - Woolwich - |
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Post by snoggle on Jun 8, 2018 10:20:55 GMT
HS is fast becoming a victim of its own success. Most routes are heaving, of course peak hours are worst, but summer Sundays and particularly bank hols, down to Ashford, the trains are very very busy. Many Medway people are now using it instead of the non existent Rainham branch of GTR which has deciminated the North Kent line linking Medway - Bluewater- Dartford - Woolwich - Interesting. I've not used it since the day it opened when I had a train to myself as far as Ebbsfleet. The ITT for the new franchise does include an expansion of the HS1 fleet but that won't help the economics. It just means more very expensive trains using very expensive train paths on HS1. The South Eastern franchise is a vehicle for govt to pay vast sums to HS1. If the government were to be truly transparent then HS1 services would be a small micro franchise with the rest of South Eastern stand alone. It would be interesting to see then how the numbers panned out. Of course there would be potential issues over pathing and revenues etc but those could be fixed. It's just a shame that not very much is ever planned on South Eastern to improve junction capacities, raise line speeds etc to allow some sensible improvements on the conventional routes. I expect such a strategy might go down well with Kentish people - once the pain of doing the work had passed. |
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Post by busman on Jun 12, 2018 16:50:04 GMT
Dislike the 376s with a passion : not helped by their current careworn state both inside and out. They are generally very unpopular, I do hope the consultation results in the "longer train" preference being selected rather than "metro style" Sorry to drag up an old comment but I have to agree I absolutely hate the 376 Electrostars. Haven’t got on one for ages and now I’m sat on one my back is killing me. I always get back ache after a few minutes of sitting on these horrible trains. I hope with the new franchise we get rolling stock with decent seats. The Networkers are very comfortable for metro style journeys. How much longer have the Networkers got before they are replaced? My fear is that whatever replaces them will have uncomfortable seating like the new Thameslink trains. |
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Post by sid on Jun 12, 2018 18:37:03 GMT
They are generally very unpopular, I do hope the consultation results in the "longer train" preference being selected rather than "metro style" Sorry to drag up an old comment but I have to agree I absolutely hate the 376 Electrostars. Haven’t got on one for ages and now I’m sat on one my back is killing me. I always get back ache after a few minutes of sitting on these horrible trains. I hope with the new franchise we get rolling stock with decent seats. The Networkers are very comfortable for metro style journeys. How much longer have the Networkers got before they are replaced? My fear is that whatever replaces them will have uncomfortable seating like the new Thameslink trains. I think I've got used to the seating on the 700's now, I think it's ok for journeys of less than an hour but I wouldn't fancy Brighton to Cambridge! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 10:55:53 GMT
I also hate 376s. They are ugly things.
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Post by Gellico on Jun 20, 2018 12:24:30 GMT
They are generally very unpopular, I do hope the consultation results in the "longer train" preference being selected rather than "metro style" Sorry to drag up an old comment but I have to agree I absolutely hate the 376 Electrostars. Haven’t got on one for ages and now I’m sat on one my back is killing me. I always get back ache after a few minutes of sitting on these horrible trains. I hope with the new franchise we get rolling stock with decent seats. The Networkers are very comfortable for metro style journeys. How much longer have the Networkers got before they are replaced? My fear is that whatever replaces them will have uncomfortable seating like the new Thameslink trains. Networkers need an overhual and they'll be good for another 10 years. Look at the 365s |
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