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Post by busaholic on Jun 7, 2019 22:21:12 GMT
Deja vu time. They did quite a good job last time in my (limited) experience. |
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Post by snoggle on Jun 13, 2019 12:17:08 GMT
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Post by MrMaguire on Jul 26, 2019 16:20:41 GMT
One end of 465028 (car 64836) has a pair of seats missing behind the cab, with a large box structure replacing them, and a vent at the bottom. It also covers the small end window, which is still there and the no smoking sticker can be seen from the outside. I had a look from the outside, all I could see was the inside of the box(es). The floor has also been replaced, with something plain and grey.
None of this looks like it was done recently. In fact the floor is heavily stained. Anyone know the story behind it?
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Post by snowman on Aug 7, 2019 7:46:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 12:25:09 GMT
So what does this mean? Abellio and Go Ahead have put out quotes saying they are disappointed. But who runs what post April 2020 ? Are they planning to hand over the Metro network to TfL ?? |
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Post by SILENCED on Aug 7, 2019 12:51:43 GMT
So what does this mean? Abellio and Go Ahead have put out quotes saying they are disappointed. But who runs what post April 2020 ? Are they planning to hand over the Metro network to TfL ?? Govia will almost definitely get another extension |
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Post by 700101 on Aug 7, 2019 16:49:47 GMT
Another waiting game for new stock which is badly needed across the network, can see another extension taking place as I don’t think it’s enough time for bidding etc until someone gets awarded the new franchise. For me I get to keep my free travel on SE for a bit longer |
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Post by route53 on Aug 18, 2019 10:01:37 GMT
What’s this I hear about a potential London to Maidstone West via Lewisham & Woolwich service from 2022? A friend of mine was telling me about it
Does this mean the fasts will return to the Woolwich line? he said the calling pattern is weird since it’ll run from Cannon Street, London Bridge fast to Lewisham all stations to Abbey Wood then Dartford, Greenhithe, Gravesend, Strood, Snodland & Maidstone West, so like the old semi fast but not running to Medway and additional calls at Woolwich Dockyard and Plumstead (for some reason)
Is this because of CrossRail that they’re planning on restoring services to Maidstone? I think that if such a service were to happen it should go the whole hog and run down to Tonbridge, spread the CrossRail net further afield as much as possible
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Post by rif153 on Aug 18, 2019 15:10:36 GMT
What’s this I hear about a potential London to Maidstone West via Lewisham & Woolwich service from 2022? A friend of mine was telling me about it Does this mean the fasts will return to the Woolwich line? he said the calling pattern is weird since it’ll run from Cannon Street, London Bridge fast to Lewisham all stations to Abbey Wood then Dartford, Greenhithe, Gravesend, Strood, Snodland & Maidstone West, so like the old semi fast but not running to Medway and additional calls at Woolwich Dockyard and Plumstead (for some reason) Is this because of CrossRail that they’re planning on restoring services to Maidstone? I think that if such a service were to happen it should go the whole hog and run down to Tonbridge, spread the CrossRail net further afield as much as possible It would certainly make sense to have fasts along the North Kent Line. I do feel for people in Medway who have all those extra stops on their service to London, certainly wouldn't fill me with excitement for commuting every day. Really there should be fasts which connect to Crossrail at Abbey Wood then have a limited stopping pattern until Medway |
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Post by route53 on Aug 18, 2019 20:30:55 GMT
What’s this I hear about a potential London to Maidstone West via Lewisham & Woolwich service from 2022? A friend of mine was telling me about it Does this mean the fasts will return to the Woolwich line? he said the calling pattern is weird since it’ll run from Cannon Street, London Bridge fast to Lewisham all stations to Abbey Wood then Dartford, Greenhithe, Gravesend, Strood, Snodland & Maidstone West, so like the old semi fast but not running to Medway and additional calls at Woolwich Dockyard and Plumstead (for some reason) Is this because of CrossRail that they’re planning on restoring services to Maidstone? I think that if such a service were to happen it should go the whole hog and run down to Tonbridge, spread the CrossRail net further afield as much as possible It would certainly make sense to have fasts along the North Kent Line. I do feel for people in Medway who have all those extra stops on their service to London, certainly wouldn't fill me with excitement for commuting every day. Really there should be fasts which connect to Crossrail at Abbey Wood then have a limited stopping pattern until Medway I was just curious about the Maidstone service to be honest, I recall there used to be Maidstone (not sure about Tonbridge) services usually via the Lewisham/Woolwich line and the Bexleyheath line until the mid-late 1980s, possibly early 1990s, I hope there will be Maidstone services again especially once CrossRail finally opens. Indeed about the stopping pattern on the Rainham service, I’m based in Greenwich and was previously based in Plumstead, until 2018 two areas which benefitted from Thameslink, and I don’t think most of the stops are necessary, the busiest service on the Woolwich line is still the Charing Cross service especially when I’ve used it (I live between Blackheath and Greenwich so I can use either line) |
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Post by route53 on Aug 18, 2019 20:35:42 GMT
I think there will be another extension after April 2020, this has gone on for so long now, we will have un-refurbished Networkers until 2030 at this rate.
The metro stock on Southern are at least ten years older yet in much better condition.
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Post by busaholic on Aug 18, 2019 23:04:32 GMT
It would certainly make sense to have fasts along the North Kent Line. I do feel for people in Medway who have all those extra stops on their service to London, certainly wouldn't fill me with excitement for commuting every day. Really there should be fasts which connect to Crossrail at Abbey Wood then have a limited stopping pattern until Medway I was just curious about the Maidstone service to be honest, I recall there used to be Maidstone (not sure about Tonbridge) services usually via the Lewisham/Woolwich line and the Bexleyheath line until the mid-late 1980s, possibly early 1990s, I hope there will be Maidstone services again especially once CrossRail finally opens. Indeed about the stopping pattern on the Rainham service, I’m based in Greenwich and was previously based in Plumstead, until 2018 two areas which benefitted from Thameslink, and I don’t think most of the stops are necessary, the busiest service on the Woolwich line is still the Charing Cross service especially when I’ve used it (I live between Blackheath and Greenwich so I can use either line) In the early 1980s I was living in Blackheath and working quite near to Maidstone West station, so a direct service would have been great, but I don't remember one. In the morning, though, iirc I caught a train via Woolwich and changed at Dartford, but in the evening had to change at Strood and (possibly) again at Dartford. However, there might have been direct 'peak flow' trains, I guess. Sorry to be so vague, but it was a long time ago! |
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Post by route53 on Aug 19, 2019 11:22:41 GMT
I was just curious about the Maidstone service to be honest, I recall there used to be Maidstone (not sure about Tonbridge) services usually via the Lewisham/Woolwich line and the Bexleyheath line until the mid-late 1980s, possibly early 1990s, I hope there will be Maidstone services again especially once CrossRail finally opens. Indeed about the stopping pattern on the Rainham service, I’m based in Greenwich and was previously based in Plumstead, until 2018 two areas which benefitted from Thameslink, and I don’t think most of the stops are necessary, the busiest service on the Woolwich line is still the Charing Cross service especially when I’ve used it (I live between Blackheath and Greenwich so I can use either line) In the early 1980s I was living in Blackheath and working quite near to Maidstone West station, so a direct service would have been great, but I don't remember one. In the morning, though, iirc I caught a train via Woolwich and changed at Dartford, but in the evening had to change at Strood and (possibly) again at Dartford. However, there might have been direct 'peak flow' trains, I guess. Sorry to be so vague, but it was a long time ago! No worries :-) thanks for the info given. I know the original fasts on the NKL used to divide at Strood, on portion went to Medway and in the peaks Ramsgate (never Dover funnily enough) and the other portion was bound for Maidstone, this was back when the fasts used to be really fast and the only station called in the suburbs was Woolwich Arsenal, Lewisham was added in the 1960s with Blackheath and Abbey Wood added in the 1970s, in the 2000s the fasts were diverted to call at Greenwich only while Lewisham was for the Plumstead shuttle. |
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Post by 700101 on Aug 30, 2019 20:19:51 GMT
Copied from railway gazette -
Southeastern has begun consultation on its proposals for the December 2019 timetable. These are intended to speed up journeys between Ashford and Canterbury West following work to increase the line speed undertaken by Network Rail with funding from Kent County Council. Journeys on some main line services would be reduced, while boarding times at 'a limited number' of stations would be increased to reflect increased passenger numbers. The operator is proposing to withdraw its three daily peak trains calling at Ore from May 2020, as the station is served by Southern and it believes its rolling stock could be better deployed elsewhere
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Post by route53 on Sept 7, 2019 9:59:07 GMT
So it looks like re-tendering of Southeastern has been postponed indefinitely then?
I heard from a friend that it was largely to do with the timetable proposed to start in 2022 was impractical, and that there were few benefits to passengers, which is true, because it proposed a service from Maidstone West to Cannon Street via Woolwich and either Lewisham or Greenwich but would all stops in the London end, I don’t understand this obsession with making outer London regional services all stops at the moment but it’s unreasonable.
Also let’s hope GoVia finally refurbished the networkers then! And put barriers up in stations, you can literally travel from Shortlands to Brixton for free since all the stations on that stretch have not barriers, just oyster pads.
Both my local stations; Blackheath and Greenwich are major stations and destinations yet they have no barriers, Greenwich is also a TfL interchange, it’s an absolute joke!
Also something must be done about Brixton, even if it means permanent closure, because the station quite frankly is a joke.
Rant over! Sorry but it’s frustrating how poor SE has been ran over the years! Especially since there is no hope of TfL ever gaining control of it.
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