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Post by SILENCED on Jun 1, 2024 12:38:57 GMT
Sorry but I have to seriously disagree with this - Croydon is a dump and it’s got nothing to do with some incident a few months ago (I live in an area that has had its issues around crime for decades). It’s been declining for years now and I’m not the only one who thinks that - many I speak to say the same when Croydon pops up in the conversation. Whitgift is like a ghost town at times and North End isn’t anywhere as busy as it once was. Not suggesting it should be burned down but I can’t agree with anything that says there is nothing wrong with Croydon - our family have stopped shopping there and now use other places because the overall experience is better like Wandsworth, Bromley or even Central London at a push No different to other areas with no shopping centres or small ones I would say. The last time I went to Whitgift Centre it was very quiet the part near M & S & Sainsbury’s is the busier part, there are still plenty of good shops in Croydon so I wouldn’t write it off, definitely a lot more than what Catford has. I would do away with Centrale and completely refurbish the Whitgift Centre the fact that is very outdated is another thing as well. Lewisham has got busier ever since these new high rise buildings appeared as well as Elephant & Castle which is a much more appealing area than it was before the underpass was not very attractive. Catford is becoming a lot more quiet now and Banks are disappearing however still is a busy place for shopping especially Markets. Sainsbury in the Whitgift Centre closed towards the end of last year did it not ... or you not talking about the one next to Boots.
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 1, 2024 12:43:06 GMT
No different to other areas with no shopping centres or small ones I would say. The last time I went to Whitgift Centre it was very quiet the part near M & S & Sainsbury’s is the busier part, there are still plenty of good shops in Croydon so I wouldn’t write it off, definitely a lot more than what Catford has. I would do away with Centrale and completely refurbish the Whitgift Centre the fact that is very outdated is another thing as well. Lewisham has got busier ever since these new high rise buildings appeared as well as Elephant & Castle which is a much more appealing area than it was before the underpass was not very attractive. Catford is becoming a lot more quiet now and Banks are disappearing however still is a busy place for shopping especially Markets. Sainsbury in the Whitgift Centre closed towards the end of last year did it not ... or you not talking about the one next to Boots. Oh wow really…
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 1, 2024 12:47:04 GMT
Nothing wrong with Croydon I don’t know why ever since the incident a few months ago outside the Whitgift centre the area is constantly given a bad name burn it down and restart you are actually disgusting as much as you do not like the are it is a home to many you should keep such nasty comments about areas to yourself. In addition Crimes can happen in any area even the quietest… Sorry but I have to seriously disagree with this - Croydon is a dump and it’s got nothing to do with some incident a few months ago (I live in an area that has had its issues around crime for decades). It’s been declining for years now and I’m not the only one who thinks that - many I speak to say the same when Croydon pops up in the conversation. Whitgift is like a ghost town at times and North End isn’t anywhere as busy as it once was. Not suggesting it should be burned down but I can’t agree with anything that says there is nothing wrong with Croydon - our family have stopped shopping there and now use other places because the overall experience is better like Wandsworth, Bromley or even Central London at a push I really like Wandsworth for shopping, it has a fantastic selection. Like I said every other big shopping town centre has managed to reinvent itself but Croydon is limping on. It’s time for a large scale regeneration and if that means knocking down a lot of the empty shops and restaurants then that’s what it means.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 1, 2024 13:52:20 GMT
Sorry but I have to seriously disagree with this - Croydon is a dump and it’s got nothing to do with some incident a few months ago (I live in an area that has had its issues around crime for decades). It’s been declining for years now and I’m not the only one who thinks that - many I speak to say the same when Croydon pops up in the conversation. Whitgift is like a ghost town at times and North End isn’t anywhere as busy as it once was. Not suggesting it should be burned down but I can’t agree with anything that says there is nothing wrong with Croydon - our family have stopped shopping there and now use other places because the overall experience is better like Wandsworth, Bromley or even Central London at a push No different to other areas with no shopping centres or small ones I would say. The last time I went to Whitgift Centre it was very quiet the part near M & S & Sainsbury’s is the busier part, there are still plenty of good shops in Croydon so I wouldn’t write it off, definitely a lot more than what Catford has. I would do away with Centrale and completely refurbish the Whitgift Centre the fact that is very outdated is another thing as well. Lewisham has got busier ever since these new high rise buildings appeared as well as Elephant & Castle which is a much more appealing area than it was before the underpass was not very attractive. Catford is becoming a lot more quiet now and Banks are disappearing however still is a busy place for shopping especially Markets. I'm not sure Lewisham or Elephant are really appealing either - having some fancy, poorly built new buildings doesn't instantly make an area great in my eyes but it's about the facilities on offer among other things. I don't mind Lewisham as it has a fair bit to offer shopping wise but Elephant won't be the same until we see exactly what shops are in the new shopping centre whenever that opens. We will also see whether Southwark can look after the new one unlike their care on the old building. I don't go Catford often enough so have no comment on that. I rank Bromley highly because it's easy to get to via many different means and the shopping factor is good, same for Wandsworth baring coming by train which is a little cumbersome.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 1, 2024 13:53:37 GMT
Sorry but I have to seriously disagree with this - Croydon is a dump and it’s got nothing to do with some incident a few months ago (I live in an area that has had its issues around crime for decades). It’s been declining for years now and I’m not the only one who thinks that - many I speak to say the same when Croydon pops up in the conversation. Whitgift is like a ghost town at times and North End isn’t anywhere as busy as it once was. Not suggesting it should be burned down but I can’t agree with anything that says there is nothing wrong with Croydon - our family have stopped shopping there and now use other places because the overall experience is better like Wandsworth, Bromley or even Central London at a push I really like Wandsworth for shopping, it has a fantastic selection. Like I said every other big shopping town centre has managed to reinvent itself but Croydon is limping on. It’s time for a large scale regeneration and if that means knocking down a lot of the empty shops and restaurants then that’s what it means. They really needed that Westfield redevelopment plan IMO. I also still say North End being pedestrianised isn't helping with footfall and is actually helping to contribute to the rising crime in the area.
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 1, 2024 14:17:30 GMT
I really like Wandsworth for shopping, it has a fantastic selection. Like I said every other big shopping town centre has managed to reinvent itself but Croydon is limping on. It’s time for a large scale regeneration and if that means knocking down a lot of the empty shops and restaurants then that’s what it means. They really needed that Westfield redevelopment plan IMO. I also still say North End being pedestrianised isn't helping with footfall and is actually helping to contribute to the rising crime in the area. Personally I would push for them to abandon the Westfield regeneration, it’s too late imho. I think they should look at what the shopping centre in Wandsworth was able to achieve. By handing over a large portion to a leisure retailer it attracted more shops and restaurants into the shopping area. Neither centre in Croydon has done that so are losing footfall to areas which have combined leisure, shopping and eating into one building. Nowadays most people with families want to be able to do everything under one roof, especially if they have to pay for expensive parking.
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 1, 2024 15:33:30 GMT
I really like Wandsworth for shopping, it has a fantastic selection. Like I said every other big shopping town centre has managed to reinvent itself but Croydon is limping on. It’s time for a large scale regeneration and if that means knocking down a lot of the empty shops and restaurants then that’s what it means. They really needed that Westfield redevelopment plan IMO. I also still say North End being pedestrianised isn't helping with footfall and is actually helping to contribute to the rising crime in the area. That's weird as I was debating in my head this morning if the North End would be better or worse if the pedestrianisation was removed. It not like it has the crowds it had in the 90's 00's.
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Post by BK15AZR on Jun 1, 2024 18:43:50 GMT
Saw Stagecoach 82001 on the 199 this afternoon, but blinded for the N199 instead!
Also saw Transport UK 2572 on the 45, with the rear blind stuck at "363". Was on the 35 behind it and only realised the rear blind was wrong when the bus kept going down Camberwell Road.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 1, 2024 19:52:41 GMT
HV306 showing Arriva as the destination - N are usually excellent but over the last couple of weeks, there's been a few 17 reg HV's showing incorrect destinations. The 63 reg HV's have been fine in comparison
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Post by Busboy105 on Jun 9, 2024 23:05:23 GMT
WHV94 had N44 on the blinds at 4pm in the afternoon. That's some delay...
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Post by WH241 on Jun 11, 2024 19:25:16 GMT
16989 on the 678 this morning displaying "Special Service" with no window display!
I thought most / if not all the VNs has the blinds replaced with those from the MVs when they received new blinds with the 97 on them.
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Post by ThinLizzy on Jun 11, 2024 22:20:01 GMT
37720 showing W12 Wanstead on side blind today whilst on the 385 towards Chingford.
Interestingly, was showing correct 385 Crooked Billet on the return journey
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Post by YX18KVJ (DLE30221) on Jun 13, 2024 17:31:27 GMT
8220 on 195 displaying 195 Whitton, Gladstone Avenue.The blind was partly ripped,so what it really showed was: 195 Whitto GLADSTONE AVEN
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Post by WH241 on Jun 16, 2024 10:47:11 GMT
19800 on the 241 to Royal Wharf but displaying Prince Regent (probably old blinds) and also showing 177 on the rear.
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Post by Busboy105 on Jun 16, 2024 13:15:11 GMT
WHV69 on the 147 had 608 on the rear blind. Also its a bit weird it still has the rear advert for Carshalton College. I don't think anyone in East Ham and Upton Park would be considering that move
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