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Post by DT 11 on May 30, 2024 21:01:16 GMT
Saw a 407 with a missing blind yesterday and a photo of an 289 without a blind. Should Abellio and Arriva be bought under the same strict control? No all operators should I would say. I’ve not seen a 157 without blinds for a while now however seems to have moved to East London now as every week there is a picture posted on here of a 262 or 473 now. 289 the majority of vehicles should have blinds now.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 30, 2024 21:06:32 GMT
Saw a 407 with a missing blind yesterday and a photo of an 289 without a blind. Should Abellio and Arriva be bought under the same strict control? No all operators should I would say. I’ve not seen a 157 without blinds for a while now however seems to have moved to East London now as every week there is a picture posted on here of a 262 or 473 now. 289 the majority of vehicles should have blinds now. Make it pretty much everyday on those two routes. It's clear by this point Go Ahead have no intention to even blind the buses, so at the very least there should be rapid movement on getting the electric onto the route. DS was also built as an electric ready garage which should have had most of its provisions for a full scale electric option put in place during initial construction. There's certainly enough Ee's in storage to at least temporarily relieve one of the two routes which allows the other a bigger spares pool of adequately blinded vehicles.
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Post by WH241 on May 30, 2024 21:23:22 GMT
These buses look awful when you see them up close! Passengers probably assume buses are not even in service half the time! The handwritten numbers look like a child has produced them. There was a photo earlier this week showing a bus running around with Not In Service.
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Post by DT 11 on May 30, 2024 21:31:53 GMT
No all operators should I would say. I’ve not seen a 157 without blinds for a while now however seems to have moved to East London now as every week there is a picture posted on here of a 262 or 473 now. 289 the majority of vehicles should have blinds now. Make it pretty much everyday on those two routes. It's clear by this point Go Ahead have no intention to even blind the buses, so at the very least there should be rapid movement on getting the electric onto the route. DS was also built as an electric ready garage which should have had most of its provisions for a full scale electric option put in place during initial construction. There's certainly enough Ee's in storage to at least temporarily relieve one of the two routes which allows the other a bigger spares pool of adequately blinded vehicles. The Ees for Route 157 should be in service by now. Wondering what is the delay.
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Post by PGAT on May 30, 2024 21:43:34 GMT
Make it pretty much everyday on those two routes. It's clear by this point Go Ahead have no intention to even blind the buses, so at the very least there should be rapid movement on getting the electric onto the route. DS was also built as an electric ready garage which should have had most of its provisions for a full scale electric option put in place during initial construction. There's certainly enough Ee's in storage to at least temporarily relieve one of the two routes which allows the other a bigger spares pool of adequately blinded vehicles. The Ees for Route 157 should be in service by now. Wondering what is the delay. When in doubt its usually the charging infrastructure. Ee210, 215-217 from the 57's batch still yet to arrive at AL presumably for that reason and then the 157's Ees should be next in line
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Post by southlondon413 on May 30, 2024 21:55:17 GMT
Saw a 407 with a missing blind yesterday and a photo of an 289 without a blind. Should Abellio and Arriva be bought under the same strict control? No all operators should I would say. I’ve not seen a 157 without blinds for a while now however seems to have moved to East London now as every week there is a picture posted on here of a 262 or 473 now. 289 the majority of vehicles should have blinds now. So majority but not all of the 289s vehicles, so surely Arriva should be subject to the same strict controls? I’ve seen reports of various vehicles at TF that aren’t blinded properly, I saw a photo of a Metroline vehicle displaying the wrong blind on the rear and a photo of a Sullivan’s bus on the 298 with nothing on it at all. The reality is it happens all over and if you look hard enough it’s an issue affecting all operators on some level. It’s just in this case it’s only being highlighted because it’s all anyone talks about.
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Post by DT 11 on May 30, 2024 22:18:22 GMT
No all operators should I would say. I’ve not seen a 157 without blinds for a while now however seems to have moved to East London now as every week there is a picture posted on here of a 262 or 473 now. 289 the majority of vehicles should have blinds now. So majority but not all of the 289s vehicles, so surely Arriva should be subject to the same strict controls? I’ve seen reports of various vehicles at TF that aren’t blinded properly, I saw a photo of a Metroline vehicle displaying the wrong blind on the rear and a photo of a Sullivan’s bus on the 298 with nothing on it at all. The reality is it happens all over and if you look hard enough it’s an issue affecting all operators on some level. It’s just in this case it’s only being highlighted because it’s all anyone talks about. No need to sulk. Did I just not say that all operators should in my previous post? Going to say it as it is obviously anyone who says anything about Go Ahead London you immediately defend overall I do think it is a disgrace for buses running past N.o. 18 Merton High Street to have half working or no blinds at all just needs to be highlighted as does not get mentioned. In relation to the 262 & 473 No overall it is not all anyone talks about its biased ones who choose to pick particular observations and make them public in this case I do agree with those who are posting these observations because it is the same repeat of the 157. Usually it’s the groups least favourite operators criticised with snide remarks so in this case I do not actually care as the firm constantly boast about having the largest Electric fleet. I’ve seen many appear on Flickr of 262 & 473 and do not post them on here. 276 was highlighted as well recently too so it’s not just one operator doing this. I did also say I have not seen a vehicle without blinds on the 157 for a long time now which you seemed to ignore which is in no way biased plus mentioning the 289 which still does have some vehicles without blinds. Overall this is not the first time Blue Triangle have done this please do not forget when BE did this daily for months hence the term “Banditry” being used.
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Post by southlondon413 on May 30, 2024 22:22:32 GMT
So majority but not all of the 289s vehicles, so surely Arriva should be subject to the same strict controls? I’ve seen reports of various vehicles at TF that aren’t blinded properly, I saw a photo of a Metroline vehicle displaying the wrong blind on the rear and a photo of a Sullivan’s bus on the 298 with nothing on it at all. The reality is it happens all over and if you look hard enough it’s an issue affecting all operators on some level. It’s just in this case it’s only being highlighted because it’s all anyone talks about. No need to sulk. Did I just not say that all operators should in my previous post? Going to say it as it is obviously anyone who says anything about Go Ahead London you immediately defend overall I do think it is a disgrace for buses running past N.o. 18 Merton High Street to have half working or no blinds at all just needs to be highlighted as does not get mentioned. In relation to the 262 & 473 No overall it is not all anyone talks about its biased ones who choose to pick particular observations and make them public in this case I do ageee with those who are posting these observations because it is the same repeat of the 157. I did also say I have not seen a vehicle without blinds on the 157 for a long time now which you seemed to ignore which is in no way biased plus mentioning the 289 which still does have some vehicles without blinds. Overall this is not the first time Blue Triangle have done this please do not forget when BE did this daily for months hence the term “Banditry” being used. Nothing to do with it being Go Ahead, it’s just boring to see the same stuff mentioned over and over again. Like when you don’t shut up about the 157 and a bus missing a blind. I know where the phrase banditry came from on here, been here a long time in various forms and you don’t need to talk down to me.
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Post by DT 11 on May 30, 2024 22:26:21 GMT
No need to sulk. Did I just not say that all operators should in my previous post? Going to say it as it is obviously anyone who says anything about Go Ahead London you immediately defend overall I do think it is a disgrace for buses running past N.o. 18 Merton High Street to have half working or no blinds at all just needs to be highlighted as does not get mentioned. In relation to the 262 & 473 No overall it is not all anyone talks about its biased ones who choose to pick particular observations and make them public in this case I do ageee with those who are posting these observations because it is the same repeat of the 157. I did also say I have not seen a vehicle without blinds on the 157 for a long time now which you seemed to ignore which is in no way biased plus mentioning the 289 which still does have some vehicles without blinds. Overall this is not the first time Blue Triangle have done this please do not forget when BE did this daily for months hence the term “Banditry” being used. Nothing to do with it being Go Ahead, it’s just boring to see the same stuff mentioned over and over again. Like when you don’t shut up about the 157 and a bus missing a blind. I know where the phrase banditry came from on here, been here a long time in various forms and you don’t need to talk down to me. Well if it is boring to you keep scrolling then this conversation would not exist. Exactly the same thing when I see usual criticism of the forums least favourite operators. In addition I did not say anything bad about the 157 again you choose to ignore I said I have not seen a bus without blinds for weeks now… just looking for things to nit pick as usual… I’m regularly in Crystal Palace so see the 157 all the time. Correction you should take your own advice. I cannot say anything as sometimes I do the same so put a sock in it…
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jun 1, 2024 7:20:14 GMT
On Thursday a 207 did have the correct front blinds. However, the side blind was upside down, grey/black side out, and had a few lines including Abellio London, smart hybrid smart blind (or something like that). Weird to say the least!
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 1, 2024 8:21:03 GMT
Whilst walking through Croydon yesterday must have seen a dozen Arriva vehicles, mostly double deckers, with missing or severely damaged side and rear blinds. Not a good look. A bit of a tangent but Croydon is a shithole now, beyond saving. Someone should burn it down and restart. I don’t think I’ve seen another major town centre in London suffering as much as Croydons is. There are barely any shops now, it’s just sad.
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 1, 2024 8:39:06 GMT
Whilst walking through Croydon yesterday must have seen a dozen Arriva vehicles, mostly double deckers, with missing or severely damaged side and rear blinds. Not a good look. A bit of a tangent but Croydon is a shithole now, beyond saving. Someone should burn it down and restart. I don’t think I’ve seen another major town centre in London suffering as much as Croydons is. There are barely any shops now, it’s just sad. Nothing wrong with Croydon I don’t know why ever since the incident a few months ago outside the Whitgift centre the area is constantly given a bad name burn it down and restart you are actually disgusting as much as you do not like the are it is a home to many you should keep such nasty comments about areas to yourself. In addition Crimes can happen in any area even the quietest…
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Post by M1104 on Jun 1, 2024 11:01:13 GMT
Make it pretty much everyday on those two routes. It's clear by this point Go Ahead have no intention to even blind the buses, so at the very least there should be rapid movement on getting the electric onto the route. DS was also built as an electric ready garage which should have had most of its provisions for a full scale electric option put in place during initial construction. There's certainly enough Ee's in storage to at least temporarily relieve one of the two routes which allows the other a bigger spares pool of adequately blinded vehicles. The Ees for Route 157 should be in service by now. Wondering what is the delay. It's very likely infrastructure related as mentioned. With presumably limited chargers in the shed at present the 152 was given priority for full conversion so as to help free up enough diesels to start off the P4
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Post by vjaska on Jun 1, 2024 11:49:26 GMT
Whilst walking through Croydon yesterday must have seen a dozen Arriva vehicles, mostly double deckers, with missing or severely damaged side and rear blinds. Not a good look. A bit of a tangent but Croydon is a shithole now, beyond saving. Someone should burn it down and restart. I don’t think I’ve seen another major town centre in London suffering as much as Croydons is. There are barely any shops now, it’s just sad. Nothing wrong with Croydon I don’t know why ever since the incident a few months ago outside the Whitgift centre the area is constantly given a bad name burn it down and restart you are actually disgusting as much as you do not like the are it is a home to many you should keep such nasty comments about areas to yourself. In addition Crimes can happen in any area even the quietest… Sorry but I have to seriously disagree with this - Croydon is a dump and it’s got nothing to do with some incident a few months ago (I live in an area that has had its issues around crime for decades). It’s been declining for years now and I’m not the only one who thinks that - many I speak to say the same when Croydon pops up in the conversation. Whitgift is like a ghost town at times and North End isn’t anywhere as busy as it once was. Not suggesting it should be burned down but I can’t agree with anything that says there is nothing wrong with Croydon - our family have stopped shopping there and now use other places because the overall experience is better like Wandsworth, Bromley or even Central London at a push
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 1, 2024 12:35:33 GMT
Nothing wrong with Croydon I don’t know why ever since the incident a few months ago outside the Whitgift centre the area is constantly given a bad name burn it down and restart you are actually disgusting as much as you do not like the are it is a home to many you should keep such nasty comments about areas to yourself. In addition Crimes can happen in any area even the quietest… Sorry but I have to seriously disagree with this - Croydon is a dump and it’s got nothing to do with some incident a few months ago (I live in an area that has had its issues around crime for decades). It’s been declining for years now and I’m not the only one who thinks that - many I speak to say the same when Croydon pops up in the conversation. Whitgift is like a ghost town at times and North End isn’t anywhere as busy as it once was. Not suggesting it should be burned down but I can’t agree with anything that says there is nothing wrong with Croydon - our family have stopped shopping there and now use other places because the overall experience is better like Wandsworth, Bromley or even Central London at a push No different to other areas with no shopping centres or small ones I would say. The last time I went to Whitgift Centre it was very quiet the part near M & S & Sainsbury’s is the busier part, there are still plenty of good shops in Croydon so I wouldn’t write it off, definitely a lot more than what Catford has. I would do away with Centrale and completely refurbish the Whitgift Centre the fact that is very outdated is another thing as well. Lewisham has got busier ever since these new high rise buildings appeared as well as Elephant & Castle which is a much more appealing area than it was before the underpass was not very attractive. Catford is becoming a lot more quiet now and Banks are disappearing however still is a busy place for shopping especially Markets.
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