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Post by snowman on Oct 14, 2021 5:26:11 GMT
Update of list from few weeks ago
If anyone spots any errors please quote with corrections made to the quote
Using newest TfL fleet audit and LVF to exclude those that have recently stopped hopefully this is up to date
Updated list of oldest buses (upto 58-reg)
Abellio 56-reg : 9401, 9404, 9405-9406, 9408, 9419, 9424 07-reg : 9420, 9421
Arriva London 57-reg : EN 5, 9, 12, 13, 16-22 08-reg : T 1-11, 36-43, 60-65, 199 58-reg : ENL 21, 25-27
CT Plus 57-reg : 1300, 1301
Go Ahead 56-reg : E 48, 52 07-reg : E 58, 59, 61, SE 18, 19, 57-reg : E 62-66, 68-78, 93, 08-reg : E 95-99, SE 36 58-reg : DOE 1-37, VE 1-3
Metroline 08-reg : DE 861-870, 1583-1588, 1591, 1592, TE 1573-1575 58-reg : DE 872-876, 957, 960, 1600, 2, 4, 7, 10, 14, 16, 19, 1627-49 58-reg : TE 933-941
RATP 07-reg : DE 20074 08-reg : SP 40026 58-reg : DE 20018-21, 20092
Stagecoach 58-reg : 15001-12, 14-16, 19, 23, 39, 36311-13, 36325-6
Sullivan 51-reg : EVL 3, 6, 52-reg : WVL 1, 5, 8-10 04-reg : EVL 1 54-reg : EVL 7-10 56-reg : E 54, 55 57-reg : WVL 2-4 08-reg : E 59-62
Uno 07-reg : 605
Apologies if there are any mistakes / omissions
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Post by LondonNorthern on Oct 14, 2021 6:47:41 GMT
Update of list from few weeks ago If anyone spots any errors please quote with corrections made to the quote Using newest TfL fleet audit and LVF to exclude those that have recently stopped hopefully this is up to date Updated list of oldest buses (upto 58-reg) Abellio 56-reg : 9401, 9404, 9405-9406, 9408, 9419, 9424 07-reg : 9420, 9421 Arriva London 57-reg : EN 5, 9, 12, 13, 16-22 08-reg : T 1-11, 36-43, 60-65, 199 58-reg : ENL 21, 25-27 CT Plus 57-reg : 1300, 1301 Go Ahead 56-reg : E 48, 52 07-reg : E 58, 59, 61, SE 18, 19, 57-reg : E 62-66, 68-78, 93, 08-reg : E 95-99, SE 36 58-reg : DOE 1-37, VE 1-3 Metroline 08-reg : DE 861-870, 1583-1588, 1591, 1592, TE 1573-1575 58-reg : DE 872-876, 957, 960, 1600, 2, 4, 7, 10, 14, 16, 19, 1627-49 58-reg : TE 933-941 RATP 07-reg : DE 20074 08-reg : SP 40026 58-reg : DE 20018-21, 20092 Stagecoach 58-reg : 15001-12, 14-16, 19, 23, 39, 36311-13, 36325-6 Sullivan 51-reg : EVL 3, 6, 52-reg : WVL 1, 5, 8-10 04-reg : EVL 1 54-reg : EVL 7-10 56-reg : E 54, 55 57-reg : WVL 2-4 08-reg : E 59-62 Uno 07-reg : 605 Apologies if there are any mistakes / omissions E58 exists in Sullivans as an 08 reg
DE1649 was withdrawn 2 years ago
Everything else looks okay though
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Post by galwhv69 on Oct 14, 2021 7:13:13 GMT
Update of list from few weeks ago If anyone spots any errors please quote with corrections made to the quote Using newest TfL fleet audit and LVF to exclude those that have recently stopped hopefully this is up to date Updated list of oldest buses (upto 58-reg) Abellio 56-reg : 9401, 9404, 9405-9406, 9408, 9419, 9424 07-reg : 9420, 9421 Arriva London 57-reg : EN 5, 9, 12, 13, 16-22 08-reg : T 1-11, 36-43, 60-65, 199 58-reg : ENL 21, 25-27 CT Plus 57-reg : 1300, 1301 Go Ahead 56-reg : E 48, 52 07-reg : E 58, 59, 61, SE 18, 19, 57-reg : E 62-66, 68-78, 93, 08-reg : E 95-99, SE 36 58-reg : DOE 1-37, VE 1-3 Metroline 08-reg : DE 861-870, 1583-1588, 1591, 1592, TE 1573-1575 58-reg : DE 872-876, 957, 960, 1600, 2, 4, 7, 10, 14, 16, 19, 1627-49 58-reg : TE 933-941 RATP 07-reg : DE 20074 08-reg : SP 40026 58-reg : DE 20018-21, 20092 Stagecoach 58-reg : 15001-12, 14-16, 19, 23, 39, 36311-13, 36325-6 Sullivan 51-reg : EVL 3, 6, 52-reg : WVL 1, 5, 8-10 04-reg : EVL 1 54-reg : EVL 7-10 56-reg : E 54, 55 57-reg : WVL 2-4 08-reg : E 59-62 Uno 07-reg : 605 Apologies if there are any mistakes / omissions All of Sullivan's ELV's & WVL's have been withdrawn (moved to commercial, don't think amy were sold)
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Post by Busboy105 on Oct 14, 2021 11:40:28 GMT
What type buses are VE?
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Post by vjaska on Oct 14, 2021 11:45:51 GMT
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Post by Busboy105 on Oct 14, 2021 16:28:46 GMT
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Post by LK65EBO on Oct 14, 2021 16:42:25 GMT
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Post by snowman on Oct 14, 2021 18:09:57 GMT
Originally worked the 85, releasing a trio of WVLs, based out of Putney Got reallocated once 85 was lost to RATP,
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 14, 2021 21:46:02 GMT
Update of list from few weeks ago If anyone spots any errors please quote with corrections made to the quote Using newest TfL fleet audit and LVF to exclude those that have recently stopped hopefully this is up to date Updated list of oldest buses (upto 58-reg) Abellio 56-reg : 9401, 9404, 9405-9406, 9408, 9419, 9424 07-reg : 9420, 9421 Arriva London 57-reg : EN 5, 9, 12, 13, 16-22 08-reg : T 1-11, 36-43, 60-65, 199 58-reg : ENL 21, 25-27 CT Plus 57-reg : 1300, 1301 Go Ahead 56-reg : E 48, 52 07-reg : E 58, 59, 61, SE 18, 19, 57-reg : E 62-66, 68-78, 93, 08-reg : E 95-99, SE 36 58-reg : DOE 1-37, VE 1-3 Metroline 08-reg : DE 861-870, 1583-1588, 1591, 1592, TE 1573-1575 58-reg : DE 872-876, 957, 960, 1600, 2, 4, 7, 10, 14, 16, 19, 1627-49 58-reg : TE 933-941 RATP 07-reg : DE 20074 08-reg : SP 40026 58-reg : DE 20018-21, 20092 Stagecoach 58-reg : 15001-12, 14-16, 19, 23, 39, 36311-13, 36325-6 Sullivan 51-reg : EVL 3, 6, 52-reg : WVL 1, 5, 8-10 04-reg : EVL 1 54-reg : EVL 7-10 56-reg : E 54, 55 57-reg : WVL 2-4 08-reg : E 59-62 Uno 07-reg : 605 Apologies if there are any mistakes / omissions I guess T199 is the only Arriva bus not to be repainted and wearing a pre 100% red livery. Go-Ahead still has some E's and I think a WVL still wearing 80% red livery.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 14, 2021 23:17:43 GMT
Update of list from few weeks ago If anyone spots any errors please quote with corrections made to the quote Using newest TfL fleet audit and LVF to exclude those that have recently stopped hopefully this is up to date Updated list of oldest buses (upto 58-reg) Abellio 56-reg : 9401, 9404, 9405-9406, 9408, 9419, 9424 07-reg : 9420, 9421 Arriva London 57-reg : EN 5, 9, 12, 13, 16-22 08-reg : T 1-11, 36-43, 60-65, 199 58-reg : ENL 21, 25-27 CT Plus 57-reg : 1300, 1301 Go Ahead 56-reg : E 48, 52 07-reg : E 58, 59, 61, SE 18, 19, 57-reg : E 62-66, 68-78, 93, 08-reg : E 95-99, SE 36 58-reg : DOE 1-37, VE 1-3 Metroline 08-reg : DE 861-870, 1583-1588, 1591, 1592, TE 1573-1575 58-reg : DE 872-876, 957, 960, 1600, 2, 4, 7, 10, 14, 16, 19, 1627-49 58-reg : TE 933-941 RATP 07-reg : DE 20074 08-reg : SP 40026 58-reg : DE 20018-21, 20092 Stagecoach 58-reg : 15001-12, 14-16, 19, 23, 39, 36311-13, 36325-6 Sullivan 51-reg : EVL 3, 6, 52-reg : WVL 1, 5, 8-10 04-reg : EVL 1 54-reg : EVL 7-10 56-reg : E 54, 55 57-reg : WVL 2-4 08-reg : E 59-62 Uno 07-reg : 605 Apologies if there are any mistakes / omissions I guess T199 is the only Arriva bus not to be repainted and wearing a pre 100% red livery. Go-Ahead still has some E's and I think a WVL still wearing 80% red livery. Several WVL's still wear Go-Ahead livery, mainly found on the 129 & 432 though the latter is lost to Arriva next year. One SE & some E's also wear the lovely 80% livery
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Post by LondonNorthern on Nov 6, 2021 15:02:56 GMT
Are there any examples of buses being registered as being younger than they actually are?
The only examples I can think of are the 1999 Darts on the 405 that were on 99 plates in Ireland but were registered on Y plates (2001) in the UK, VPL174 (former Sullivans/Easylink) that was on a 99 plate in Ireland yet was registered on an X plate (2000) in the UK, and DLP1 being built in 1998 yet when DLP2+ were built it was changed from an S reg to a V reg.
Are there any more examples of this in TFL service or previously?
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Post by wirewiper on Nov 6, 2021 15:28:56 GMT
Are there any examples of buses being registered as being younger than they actually are? The only examples I can think of are the 1999 Darts on the 405 that were on 99 plates in Ireland but were registered on Y plates (2001) in the UK, VPL174 (former Sullivans/Easylink) that was on a 99 plate in Ireland yet was registered on an X plate (2000) in the UK, and DLP1 being built in 1998 yet when DLP2+ were built it was changed from an S reg to a V reg. Are there any more examples of this in TFL service or previously? The seven 21-registered Wright Streetdecks with Ensign were built in 2019 for Arriva Yorkshire and two were even allocated provisional 69 registrations, but the order was cancelled and they remained at the factory unregistered.
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Post by vjaska on Nov 6, 2021 16:31:02 GMT
Are there any examples of buses being registered as being younger than they actually are? The only examples I can think of are the 1999 Darts on the 405 that were on 99 plates in Ireland but were registered on Y plates (2001) in the UK, VPL174 (former Sullivans/Easylink) that was on a 99 plate in Ireland yet was registered on an X plate (2000) in the UK, and DLP1 being built in 1998 yet when DLP2+ were built it was changed from an S reg to a V reg. Are there any more examples of this in TFL service or previously? AFAIK, your not allowed to register an older bus with a younger plate only a younger bus with an older plate. This isn’t the same thing as new buses being re-registered around March and September before entering service
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Post by adl on Apr 2, 2022 11:38:43 GMT
I believe with the withdrawal of GALs 56-reg Es and the recent withdrawal of Abellio 56/07 reg E400s(?) - the oldest buses must be GALs E61, 605 from UNO.
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Post by YY13VKP on Apr 2, 2022 11:56:50 GMT
I believe with the withdrawal of GALs 56-reg Es and the recent withdrawal of Abellio 56/07 reg E400s(?) - the oldest buses must be GALs E61, 605 from UNO. Have the remaining 56/07 reg E400's at Abellio been withdrawn? They were only in service three days ago, but I don't suspect we've seen the last of them as they could be required on the 111 at the end of this month. Saying that however, the U5 will have MMC's freed up surely by the end of this month if the electrics are currently being finished, so there may not be a need for the 56/07 reg E400's.
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