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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2016 7:08:48 GMT
Someone thinks on BBC London News wants the Crossrail stations renamed, for example, Bond Street to Hanover, Tottenham Court Road to St Giles and Farringdon to Smithfield. Shouldn't really happen as the stations are already named that. Heres the CityMetric article |
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Post by vjaska on Mar 2, 2016 13:16:30 GMT
Someone thinks on BBC London News wants the Crossrail stations renamed, for example, Bond Street to Hanover, Tottenham Court Road to St Giles and Farringdon to Smithfield. Shouldn't really happen as the stations are already named that. Heres the CityMetric articleWhat an utter load of dribble - seriously, are we really going to baffle visitors and tourists even more than now with station names like Hanover & St. Giles. The current station names have been there for many years and we know how people like the status quo rather than a change so why waste money doing so. |
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Post by snoggle on Mar 2, 2016 16:48:35 GMT
Mr Elledge who writes for Citymetric is rather renowned for coming up with ideas or analysis designed to provoke conversation or debate. This "rename Crossrail" thing isn't new. It was on their website weeks ago - I read it then. It's only because Bozza decreed that Crossrail itself be renamed that the issue of the station names has emerged into the media's line of sight. He has half a point about the Hanover Square end of Bond St station although a name just saying Hanover is fairly meaningless. You couldn't call the station Hanover Square because it then becomes meaningless in the context of its connection to Bond St LU station.
The same applies to Farringdon. One end of the Crossrail station will be in Smithfield plus there will be an accessible link through to Barbican LU platforms. That whole area is really quite confused because some named enclaves come together in one place. Where do Barbican, St Pauls, Holborn Viaduct, Clerkenwell, Ludgate, Farringdon and Smithfield all start and end? - they're all continguous as areas. I will readily confess to not knowing, until I visited Crossrail at Farringdon, that Barbican was as close as it was nor that Charterhouse Square (and Hercule Poirot's house) was where it was. Just call me ignorant but it's not an area I've really walked through. Even if you just use the main roads you're missing out on how an area really fits together.
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Post by danorak on Mar 3, 2016 20:26:48 GMT
I've always disliked the name of Tottenham Court Road station, primarily because it's at the far southern end of TCR, and the entrances are mostly further south than that (in New Oxford St and under Centrepoint). Yet Goodge Street and Warren Street are actually on TCR!
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Post by thesquirrels on Mar 3, 2016 20:49:45 GMT
I've always disliked the name of Tottenham Court Road station, primarily because it's at the far southern end of TCR, and the entrances are mostly further south than that (in New Oxford St and under Centrepoint). Yet Goodge Street and Warren Street are actually on TCR! Chancery Lane bothers me for similar reasons. Even the original station building wasn't directly opposite the end of Chancery Lane! I'm sure there are others. |
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Post by snowman on Mar 3, 2016 21:17:42 GMT
I've always disliked the name of Tottenham Court Road station, primarily because it's at the far southern end of TCR, and the entrances are mostly further south than that (in New Oxford St and under Centrepoint). Yet Goodge Street and Warren Street are actually on TCR! Chancery Lane bothers me for similar reasons. Even the original station building wasn't directly opposite the end of Chancery Lane! I'm sure there are others. Whilst some of these names aren't the best, probably stuck with them now. The Central London railway clearly needed names for its stations long before what is now the Northern line was thought about. There was also real station buildings (before the later addition of subway entrances) at these stations. The entrance to Chancery Lane moved a long way (about 100m East) when the escalators were added in 1934 as they point away from the end of a platform. Initially the station was renamed Chancery Lane (Grays Inn), as the new entrance was now by Grays Inn Road, however the public don't like to use suffix so this was later dropped. Anyone thinking of renaming should look at the history of Embankment name (which had variations including Charing Cross and again a suffix). Renaming should be avoided. However where there are multiple exits I wish they would all be numbered like at Bank, so much easier when a company specifys it's address and states nearest tube station Bank exit 7 A snippet of info for those who aren't aware is that in 1936 all the central area tube platforms were renumbered so that odd numbers are southbound or westbound, and even number platforms go northbound or easttbound, |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 12:46:18 GMT
The numbering of the surface platforms at Highbury & Islington seems bizarre. 1,2,7,8. It seems that 3,4,5 and 6 are apparently in a deep hole in the ground.
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Post by snoggle on Mar 4, 2016 17:17:17 GMT
The numbering of the surface platforms at Highbury & Islington seems bizarre. 1,2,7,8. It seems that 3,4,5 and 6 are apparently in a deep hole in the ground. It's not that bizarre really. Platform numbering is usually chronological in that lowest numbered are the oldest. The biggest cost of renumbering platforms is all the related system changes e.g. signalling and control systems. The best time to change is if wider signalling works are being done at the same time hence why the Great Northern platforms are 4 and 6 and Victoria line are 3 and 5. Logic would have had the GN as 3 and 4 and Vic as 5 and 6. Upstairs the NLL has always been 1 and 2 and the old single track freight bypass line was P7. However the rebuild to allow for the ELL meant the ELL took 1 and 2 while the relocated and rebuilt NLL took 7 and 8 with 8 being in a new position. Of course all of this was easily done because the line was being rebuilt and electrified with overhead supply (NLL). I snapped an old sign at Highbury before it closed for rebuilding. 
Old platform signage at Highbury and Islington Station by plcd1, on Flickr |
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