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Post by snoggle on Mar 19, 2016 18:51:23 GMT
The 62 stock were the Underground trains I used the most when I first moved to London. I did Leyton to Liv St regularly complete with "instant hair driver" effect if stood in the front carriage as the train plunged into the tunnel west of Leyton. It's all very lame nowadays - the 92 stock crawls into the tunnel by comparison with the full "blow your hair" speed of 62 stock. Some memories courtesy of Mr Smiler and his video camera. Hold on tight as some of the footage is a bit wobbly. Also note the guard having a leisurely sit down. Enjoy the decay and dereliction of Bank and Liv St stations.
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Post by Nathan on Mar 19, 2016 19:18:04 GMT
No station announcements...squeeky train coaches...guards on underground trains. All very different from what I'm used to lol
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Post by snoggle on Mar 19, 2016 19:46:19 GMT
No station announcements...squeeky train coaches...guards on underground trains. All very different from what I'm used to lol It was very different and "atmospheric" back then. I remember doing "flat hunting" before moving to London and getting on a 62 stock at Snaresbrook [1] on a dark evening and seeing a carriage full of skinheads! I was a bit terrified but was only going to Leyton where I caught my first ever London bus - a Titan on the 158 - to get to Markhouse Rd for the last "lodgings" view before getting the Sleeper home to Newcastle. (Grief - back when BR ran a sleeper train to Newcastle). I can still remember that journey as clear as day 33 years on. I can also remember the "locals" at the Leyton tube stop probably thinking I was a nutter because I was asking people questions / having a chat. This is, of course, not what you do in London but is completely normal in Newcastle. Being a complete "London numpty" I did all the travel between "lodgings" locations by tube. I recall going to Wapping, Turnpike Lane, Leytonstone, Hermon Hill and Walthamstow. I can distinctly remember going via Holborn by tube to get between Turnpike Lane and Leytonstone because I was so clueless about the buses. [1] I'd seen some dump of a place at Hermon Hill in Wanstead.
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Post by snowman on Mar 19, 2016 21:13:37 GMT
No station announcements...squeeky train coaches...guards on underground trains. All very different from what I'm used to lol It was very different and "atmospheric" back then. I remember doing "flat hunting" before moving to London and getting on a 62 stock at Snaresbrook [1] in a dark evening and seeing a carriage full of skinheads! I was a bit terrified but was only going to Leyton where I caught my first ever London bus - a Titan on the 58 - to get to Markhouse Rd for the last "lodgings" view before getting the Sleeper home to Newcastle. (Grief - back when BR ran a sleeper train to Newcastle). I can still remember that journey as clear as day 33 years on. [1] I'd seen some dump of a place at Hermon Hill in Wanstead. Strange coincidence, I actually lived in Markhouse Road for about a year when I first came to London to work, back in 1988, before moving to a shared house in different part of Walthamstow. My normal route was walk to St James St station, to Liverpool Street, then Met line to Farringdon. Liverpool St would change every few weeks as the rebuild moved around. In those days some Met trains started from the bay platform at Liverpool Street. Chancery Lane Station was nearer my office, but at the time there was only 3 escalators to Central line at Liverpool Street and always had to wait upto 4 trains for the ones starting from there otherwise too crowded. Had one client in Northolt so remember the central line just like the video, used to go in last coach and guard often sat down after Acton
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Post by Green Kitten on Mar 19, 2016 23:01:44 GMT
Shame I didn't get a ride on these workhorses... unless my parents took a ride on the red line when I was a baby. I do however remember the 1959 stock, living in High Barnet at the time, as a kid. I always found them a bit creepy and would rather ride on the new 1995s!
Good god, the stations look absolutely dystopian. It's amazing how much cleaner and more well maintained the network is these days, compared to 25 years ago.
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Post by M1104 on Mar 20, 2016 4:47:49 GMT
Shame I didn't get a ride on these workhorses... unless my parents took a ride on the red line when I was a baby. I do however remember the 1959 stock, living in High Barnet at the time, as a kid. I always found them a bit creepy and would rather ride on the new 1995s! Good god, the stations look absolutely dystopian. It's amazing how much cleaner and more well maintained the network is these days, compared to 25 years ago. I also found those 59 and 62 stock a bit creepy as a kid, especially the general sounds of the motors and when they use to overrev as the wheel slip on the wet tracks in the rain. I always used to prefer the 72 stock on the northern line and looked forward to it from the moment I see those two big head lights in the tunnel approaching the station. In the later years those 59/62 stock where's rather creaky it service, given the fact that they have worked hard over the latter half of the 20th century, just missing out on the 21st. With the Station refurbishments, I remember when they were doing the southern* leg of the Northern line and was looking forward to seeing the finished article only for it to look exactly the same as before, basically a restoration. * - Clapham South to Morden
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Post by thesquirrels on Mar 20, 2016 12:10:49 GMT
I did a lot of travelling around London by tube as a young child with whichever responsible adult I was out & about with that day - I'd expressed an enthusiasm for buses and tubes from early on so I was often 'sent off' with someone on a journey just for the trip. I don't ever remember using the Central line prior to the 62s going but have plenty of vivid memories of the 1959 stock on the Northern Line which I travelled on regularly between Kings Cross and the Elephant going south, and out to Burnt Oak going north. The things definitely made it into the 21st century, though - I remember travelling from the Civil Servants college in Victoria to the MoD's offices in St Giles (now the Central St Giles complex) on a work experience placement in the summer of 2001 and getting on a 1959 stock from Embankment to TCR. That was the last time I used one. I don't suppose they got the chance to get thrashed in the way the Central line network allows but a good turn of speed could be had going south from Edgware (mostly downhill, and quite steeply in parts) - emergency braking and burning smells at Hampstead and Belsize Park weren't uncommon.
I do have an odd sort of nostalgia for the 'Misery Line' days - the slightly sweet dusty 'tube' smell (which is probably still there but I've become immune to it) deafening westinghouse compressors, tunnel cables oscillating wildly and vividly through single glazed windows, graffiti everywhere, the island platform and lifts at the Angel (I would have been 4 when the rebuilding started so this one of my earliest memories). The IRA bombing campaign and associated scares around the public transport system were a daily fact of life in the early 90s and the fear around that formed a big part of the picture I have looking back on the Capital in that era. To a child's mind the network had a slightly threatening air but it was exciting all the same.
Edit: checking on the Squarewheels site the last day of 1959 stock was actually in January 2000, so whatever train I travelled on that day it can't have been a 1959 stock!
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Post by vjaska on Mar 20, 2016 13:36:05 GMT
The 67 stock on the Victoria Line is the stock I rode a lot living in Brixton and like the 2009 stock, the drivers would give them a right good old thrashing - I especially loved the 60's styling in the interior that amazingly hadn't been messed around with too much during their refurbishment in the 90's & also the loud squealing, particularly between Stockwell & Vauxhall.
I rode a 1959 stock once or twice but I can't really remember how they were and an A stock once as I remember the luggage compartments up at the ceiling.
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Post by snoggle on Mar 20, 2016 14:03:59 GMT
The 67 stock on the Victoria Line is the stock I rode a lot living in Brixton and like the 2009 stock, the drivers would give them a right good old thrashing - I especially loved the 60's styling in the interior that amazingly hadn't been messed around with too much during their refurbishment in the 90's & also the loud squealing, particularly between Stockwell & Vauxhall. I rode a 1959 stock once or twice but I can't really remember how they were and an A stock once as I remember the luggage compartments up at the ceiling. I think you mean the "computer system" gave the trains a thrashing. Drivers could only drive 67 stock at about 10 mph in coded manual or else the brakes came on - believe me I know having had to endure it in the past.
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Post by vjaska on Mar 20, 2016 15:37:05 GMT
The 67 stock on the Victoria Line is the stock I rode a lot living in Brixton and like the 2009 stock, the drivers would give them a right good old thrashing - I especially loved the 60's styling in the interior that amazingly hadn't been messed around with too much during their refurbishment in the 90's & also the loud squealing, particularly between Stockwell & Vauxhall. I rode a 1959 stock once or twice but I can't really remember how they were and an A stock once as I remember the luggage compartments up at the ceiling. I think you mean the "computer system" gave the trains a thrashing. Drivers could only drive 67 stock at about 10 mph in coded manual or else the brakes came on - believe me I know having had to endure it in the past. Lol yep, I meant the ATO system.
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Post by M1104 on Mar 20, 2016 15:39:23 GMT
The 67 stock on the Victoria Line is the stock I rode a lot living in Brixton and like the 2009 stock, the drivers would give them a right good old thrashing - I especially loved the 60's styling in the interior that amazingly hadn't been messed around with too much during their refurbishment in the 90's & also the loud squealing, particularly between Stockwell & Vauxhall. I rode a 1959 stock once or twice but I can't really remember how they were and an A stock once as I remember the luggage compartments up at the ceiling. That's one of the main things I like about the Victoria line, the tunnels being relatively straight with gentle curves so that trains spend a lot more time and mileage at those speeds. The Jubilee line is similar with the majority of its tunnel journeys (slows down a bit in the ex Bakerloo line section between Baker Street and Finchley Road).
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Post by thesquirrels on Mar 20, 2016 21:53:15 GMT
The 67 stock on the Victoria Line is the stock I rode a lot living in Brixton and like the 2009 stock, the drivers would give them a right good old thrashing - I especially loved the 60's styling in the interior that amazingly hadn't been messed around with too much during their refurbishment in the 90's & also the loud squealing, particularly between Stockwell & Vauxhall. I rode a 1959 stock once or twice but I can't really remember how they were and an A stock once as I remember the luggage compartments up at the ceiling. There was a terrific bit of track squeal on the southbound Vic on the approach to Finsbury Park in the noughties. You got about thirty seconds warning that a train was coming if you were stood on the platform waiting, with the train often hitting the station almost flat out and using the 'hump' to assist braking. Could be unnerving on busy mornings with the platform three deep if you were at the front!
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Post by snoggle on Mar 20, 2016 22:11:58 GMT
The 67 stock on the Victoria Line is the stock I rode a lot living in Brixton and like the 2009 stock, the drivers would give them a right good old thrashing - I especially loved the 60's styling in the interior that amazingly hadn't been messed around with too much during their refurbishment in the 90's & also the loud squealing, particularly between Stockwell & Vauxhall. I rode a 1959 stock once or twice but I can't really remember how they were and an A stock once as I remember the luggage compartments up at the ceiling. There was a terrific bit of track squeal on the southbound Vic on the approach to Finsbury Park in the noughties. You got about thirty seconds warning that a train was coming if you were stood on the platform waiting, with the train often hitting the station almost flat out and using the 'hump' to assist braking. Could be unnerving on busy mornings with the platform three deep if you were at the front! Try being in the cab for that approach!! Done it in a 67 and an 09 stock. I arranged a visit to N Park depot before I left LU and the line GM said "give him a cab ride on the way back" to the driver of the waiting s/b 09 train. I tried not to grin too much.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 25, 2016 14:49:31 GMT
The 62 stock were the Underground trains I used the most when I first moved to London. I did Leyton to Liv St regularly complete with "instant hair driver" effect if stood in the front carriage as the train plunged into the tunnel west of Leyton. It's all very lame nowadays - the 92 stock crawls into the tunnel by comparison with the full "blow your hair" speed of 62 stock. Some memories courtesy of Mr Smiler and his video camera. Hold on tight as some of the footage is a bit wobbly. Also note the guard having a leisurely sit down. Enjoy the decay and dereliction of Bank and Liv St stations. The 92 stock is faster, only thing I think the gearing on the 92 stock you don't feel the acceleration as much.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 25, 2016 15:50:35 GMT
I did a lot of travelling around London by tube as a young child with whichever responsible adult I was out & about with that day - I'd expressed an enthusiasm for buses and tubes from early on so I was often 'sent off' with someone on a journey just for the trip. I don't ever remember using the Central line prior to the 62s going but have plenty of vivid memories of the 1959 stock on the Northern Line which I travelled on regularly between Kings Cross and the Elephant going south, and out to Burnt Oak going north. The things definitely made it into the 21st century, though - I remember travelling from the Civil Servants college in Victoria to the MoD's offices in St Giles (now the Central St Giles complex) on a work experience placement in the summer of 2001 and getting on a 1959 stock from Embankment to TCR. That was the last time I used one. I don't suppose they got the chance to get thrashed in the way the Central line network allows but a good turn of speed could be had going south from Edgware (mostly downhill, and quite steeply in parts) - emergency braking and burning smells at Hampstead and Belsize Park weren't uncommon. I do have an odd sort of nostalgia for the 'Misery Line' days - the slightly sweet dusty 'tube' smell (which is probably still there but I've become immune to it) deafening westinghouse compressors, tunnel cables oscillating wildly and vividly through single glazed windows, graffiti everywhere, the island platform and lifts at the Angel (I would have been 4 when the rebuilding started so this one of my earliest memories). The IRA bombing campaign and associated scares around the public transport system were a daily fact of life in the early 90s and the fear around that formed a big part of the picture I have looking back on the Capital in that era. To a child's mind the network had a slightly threatening air but it was exciting all the same. Edit: checking on the Squarewheels site the last day of 1959 stock was actually in January 2000, so whatever train I travelled on that day it can't have been a 1959 stock! These vids really do bring back memories, the 62 stock had seem ancient compared to other trains, as wood didn't cut it anymore. Doors used to regularly fail I remember, windows leaked they were plastered with graffiti. The sound of the compressors make me laugh now. I remember when in Central London stations; the sound of them when they came on and echoing through the whole station. Or when it came on and the train was in motion, it sounded like a screaming hmmmmmmmmmwrrrrongg sound, lol I remember Liverpool Street station, Bank station platforms were nasty and ratified. Dust, dribble coming out of walls etc. I think Liverpool St station was done after the Bishopsgate NatWest tower bombing.
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