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Post by M1104 on Mar 25, 2016 18:44:07 GMT
Did the 62 (or identical 59 stock) do service to Heathrow Central* in the early/mid 70s before they were moved to the northern Line?
* - now Heathrow Terminal 123
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Post by thesquirrels on Mar 25, 2016 19:30:19 GMT
Did the 62 (or identical 59 stock) do service to Heathrow Central* in the early/mid 70s before they were moved to the northern Line? * - now Heathrow Terminal 123 I recall a forum posting of some authority from elsewhere confirming that they did but I've never seen a photo.
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Post by john on Mar 30, 2016 12:04:12 GMT
The 62 stock were the Underground trains I used the most when I first moved to London. I did Leyton to Liv St regularly complete with "instant hair driver" effect if stood in the front carriage as the train plunged into the tunnel west of Leyton. It's all very lame nowadays - the 92 stock crawls into the tunnel by comparison with the full "blow your hair" speed of 62 stock. Some memories courtesy of Mr Smiler and his video camera. Hold on tight as some of the footage is a bit wobbly. Also note the guard having a leisurely sit down. Enjoy the decay and dereliction of Bank and Liv St stations. I remember as a 4/5 year old these this scaring the life out of me. I used to hate the way the lights would always go on and off in the tunnels. Compare these to the almost amazingly modern 321's we used to get into Liverpool Street at the time, and you can see why I hated them! Great memories from them though, very great
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Post by towerman on Apr 1, 2016 16:15:29 GMT
I was a trainee fitter at Hainault 66 to 68 & then a Chargehand at Hainault 75 to 89.The 62TS was a lovely stock to work on,everything hard wired,fault finding was easy.The stock did seem to be a bit cursed with the two Leyton collisions,Marble Arch collision,Holborn collision,one in the sand drag at Leytonstone,one hit the tunnel portal entering service from White City Depot,one ran into a flood in the flyunder at North Acton & last but not least train that hit the drill bit after leaving Wanstead(A12 extenstion work).
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Post by daveb0789 on Apr 2, 2016 20:17:18 GMT
There was a terrific bit of track squeal on the southbound Vic on the approach to Finsbury Park in the noughties. You got about thirty seconds warning that a train was coming if you were stood on the platform waiting, with the train often hitting the station almost flat out and using the 'hump' to assist braking. Could be unnerving on busy mornings with the platform three deep if you were at the front! Try being in the cab for that approach!! Done it in a 67 and an 09 stock. I arranged a visit to N Park depot before I left LU and the line GM said "give him a cab ride on the way back" to the driver of the waiting s/b 09 train. I tried not to grin too much. I had a cab ride in an ATO driven 1995 stock northern line train and was surprised at the approach speeds used in tunnels but on the surface sections the computer was over cautious. It takes a long time to master the brake on a train.
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Post by M1104 on Apr 2, 2016 22:00:53 GMT
Try being in the cab for that approach!! Done it in a 67 and an 09 stock. I arranged a visit to N Park depot before I left LU and the line GM said "give him a cab ride on the way back" to the driver of the waiting s/b 09 train. I tried not to grin too much. I had a cab ride in an ATO driven 1995 stock northern line train and was surprised at the approach speeds used in tunnels but on the surface sections the computer was over cautious. It takes a long time to master the brake on a train. I'm guessing the surface section platform approaches are slower in case of certain weather conditions where the tracks become more slippery.
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Post by snoggle on Apr 2, 2016 23:51:26 GMT
Try being in the cab for that approach!! Done it in a 67 and an 09 stock. I arranged a visit to N Park depot before I left LU and the line GM said "give him a cab ride on the way back" to the driver of the waiting s/b 09 train. I tried not to grin too much. I had a cab ride in an ATO driven 1995 stock northern line train and was surprised at the approach speeds used in tunnels but on the surface sections the computer was over cautious. It takes a long time to master the brake on a train. I've not done the Northern since it went ATO. I have been lucky enough to do a couple of cab rides on the Northern including the City branch, Kennington loop and Charing Cross branch. I actually took a small group of people with me - never seen so many people in a tube cab. I've been very lucky to do cab rides in A stock (70 mph on the fasts plus the rare west curve at Croxley and up to Chesham), D Stock, C stock, 67 stock, 73 stock (fast lines in West London - had to hold on tight as the track quality was abysmal), 09 stock. Can't recall doing the 72 stock at all and have never been in S Stock cab.
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Post by daveb0789 on Apr 3, 2016 9:10:52 GMT
I had a cab ride in an ATO driven 1995 stock northern line train and was surprised at the approach speeds used in tunnels but on the surface sections the computer was over cautious. It takes a long time to master the brake on a train. I'm guessing the surface section platform approaches are slower in case of certain weather conditions where the tracks become more slippery. Precisely it. ATO is fantastic in tube sections - it doesn't know how to deal with adverse weather conditions. Rain for example is only bad if it's a slight drizzle or after a prolonged period of dry weather. But in steady rain conditions, adhesion is almost as good as on a dry rail. This is sharp contrast to driving on the road where in normal driving conditions rain doesn't affect ability to accelerate or brake.
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Post by daveb0789 on Apr 3, 2016 9:14:19 GMT
I had a cab ride in an ATO driven 1995 stock northern line train and was surprised at the approach speeds used in tunnels but on the surface sections the computer was over cautious. It takes a long time to master the brake on a train. I've not done the Northern since it went ATO. I have been lucky enough to do a couple of cab rides on the Northern including the City branch, Kennington loop and Charing Cross branch. I actually took a small group of people with me - never seen so many people in a tube cab. I've been very lucky to do cab rides in A stock (70 mph on the fasts plus the rare west curve at Croxley and up to Chesham), D Stock, C stock, 67 stock, 73 stock (fast lines in West London - had to hold on tight as the track quality was abysmal), 09 stock. Can't recall doing the 72 stock at all and have never been in S Stock cab. I have a friend who is a Northern line t/op and they are able to admit visitors into the cab with a special letter. I want to do the High Barnet and and Mordern branches next. The most surprising part was 50 being permitted between Kennington and Waterloo I'll be doing some driving on the HS1 lines under London later today
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Post by vjaska on Apr 3, 2016 11:19:19 GMT
I've not done the Northern since it went ATO. I have been lucky enough to do a couple of cab rides on the Northern including the City branch, Kennington loop and Charing Cross branch. I actually took a small group of people with me - never seen so many people in a tube cab. I've been very lucky to do cab rides in A stock (70 mph on the fasts plus the rare west curve at Croxley and up to Chesham), D Stock, C stock, 67 stock, 73 stock (fast lines in West London - had to hold on tight as the track quality was abysmal), 09 stock. Can't recall doing the 72 stock at all and have never been in S Stock cab. I have a friend who is a Northern line t/op and they are able to admit visitors into the cab with a special letter. I want to do the High Barnet and and Mordern branches next. The most surprising part was 50 being permitted between Kennington and Waterloo I'll be doing some driving on the HS1 lines under London later today I suspect it's because it's a longish section and no particularly tight bends?
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Post by daveb0789 on Apr 3, 2016 11:29:18 GMT
I have a friend who is a Northern line t/op and they are able to admit visitors into the cab with a special letter. I want to do the High Barnet and and Mordern branches next. The most surprising part was 50 being permitted between Kennington and Waterloo I'll be doing some driving on the HS1 lines under London later today I suspect it's because it's a longish section and no particularly tight bends? Possibly but it's a massive upgrade from the 35 mph maximum that used to be imposed on all tunnel sections on the northern line.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 4, 2016 10:30:17 GMT
The 62 stock were the Underground trains I used the most when I first moved to London. I did Leyton to Liv St regularly complete with "instant hair driver" effect if stood in the front carriage as the train plunged into the tunnel west of Leyton. It's all very lame nowadays - the 92 stock crawls into the tunnel by comparison with the full "blow your hair" speed of 62 stock. Some memories courtesy of Mr Smiler and his video camera. Hold on tight as some of the footage is a bit wobbly. Also note the guard having a leisurely sit down. Enjoy the decay and dereliction of Bank and Liv St stations. I remember as a 4/5 year old these this scaring the life out of me. I used to hate the way the lights would always go on and off in the tunnels. Compare these to the almost amazingly modern 321's we used to get into Liverpool Street at the time, and you can see why I hated them! Great memories from them though, very great I remember when that used to have when the pick up rail went over a place where crossovers were the lights would go off on one side of the carriage and then the next.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 4, 2016 10:34:33 GMT
I was a trainee fitter at Hainault 66 to 68 & then a Chargehand at Hainault 75 to 89.The 62TS was a lovely stock to work on,everything hard wired,fault finding was easy.The stock did seem to be a bit cursed with the two Leyton collisions,Marble Arch collision,Holborn collision,one in the sand drag at Leytonstone,one hit the tunnel portal entering service from White City Depot,one ran into a flood in the flyunder at North Acton & last but not least train that hit the drill bit after leaving Wanstead(A12 extenstion work). d*mn, I didn't realise there was that much incidents! Only one I heard of was the crash at Leyton.
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Post by M1104 on Apr 4, 2016 13:57:03 GMT
Did the 62 (or identical 59 stock) do service to Heathrow Central* in the early/mid 70s before they were moved to the northern Line? * - now Heathrow Terminal 123 I recall a forum posting of some authority from elsewhere confirming that they did but I've never seen a photo. A 59 stock (from 2:45) at the 'new' Hounslow West in 1975. youtu.be/yDOwmML0E78
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