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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 18:38:18 GMT
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Post by rmz19 on Jun 6, 2016 19:35:41 GMT
Hi 'phoenixcronin' and welcome to the forum  I'm glad you've mentioned this as I thought I was the only one who noticed it. It may be minor, but I also wondered why Stagecoach's examples still have the older headlight design without the groove yet other E200/E400s started to have them since 2011. Perhaps it is simply down to aesthetic reasons on Stagecoach's behalf? I prefer the newer design as it adds a difference to an otherwise relatively bland headlight design. |
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Post by john on Jun 6, 2016 19:51:58 GMT
Hi 'phoenixcronin' and welcome to the forum I'm glad you've mentioned this as I thought I was the only one who noticed it. It may be minor, but I also wondered why Stagecoach's examples still have the older headlight design without the groove yet other E200/E400s started to have them since 2011. Perhaps it is simply down to aesthetic reasons on Stagecoach's behalf? I prefer the newer design as it adds a difference to an otherwise relatively bland headlight design. I'd assume cost of parts. We all know how Stagecoach like standardisation within their fleets. However AFAIK they're the only ones where on refurb, the licence plates on the rear of the E400 is being put on the rear skirt from the rear window. Again all down to cost and practicality |
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Post by VPL630 on Jun 6, 2016 19:57:51 GMT
It's standard stagecoach spec, saves money on spare parts I guess, easy way to standardise the fleet and not get odd parts fitted to buses, there quite a few differences to the spec stagecoach order compared to other operators such as indicator sound delete for example
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 6, 2016 20:22:47 GMT
It's standard stagecoach spec, saves money on spare parts I guess, easy way to standardise the fleet and not get odd parts fitted to buses, there quite a few differences to the spec stagecoach order compared to other operators such as indicator sound delete for example Do they still remove the self cancel mechanism from the steering wheel hub. I hated it, meant you always had to do it manually. Even when the ALX200 and 400 had them when delivered, they removed them. After they even started to remove them of Titans. |
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Post by john on Jun 6, 2016 22:04:08 GMT
Some are losing them, again I think it's upon refurb as I've noticed ours at RM are OK until refurb then they're being removed.
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Post by Nathan on Jun 6, 2016 22:22:19 GMT
I'm sorry, am I the only one who doesn't see a difference?
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Post by snoggle on Jun 6, 2016 22:49:34 GMT
I'm sorry, am I the only one who doesn't see a difference? Look again at the headlight area - the Arriva bus has a groove under the lights. Also at the bottom of the front panels the Arriva bus has a "lip" at the bottom. The Stagecoach bus has neither. It's all a bit subtle but there are differences. It's not dissimilar to what Mercedes did when they updated the Citaro. The front is more "chiselled" at the front on the Mk2. |
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Post by VPL630 on Jun 6, 2016 22:53:35 GMT
It's standard stagecoach spec, saves money on spare parts I guess, easy way to standardise the fleet and not get odd parts fitted to buses, there quite a few differences to the spec stagecoach order compared to other operators such as indicator sound delete for example Do they still remove the self cancel mechanism from the steering wheel hub. I hated it, meant you always had to do it manually. Even when the ALX200 and 400 had them when delivered, they removed them. After they even started to remove them of Titans. Dont think so, MMC's have them that's for sure |
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Post by Nathan on Jun 6, 2016 23:05:45 GMT
I'm sorry, am I the only one who doesn't see a difference? Look again at the headlight area - the Arriva bus has a groove under the lights. Also at the bottom of the front panels the Arriva bus has a "lip" at the bottom. The Stagecoach bus has neither. It's all a bit subtle but there are differences. It's not dissimilar to what Mercedes did when they updated the Citaro. The front is more "chiselled" at the front on the Mk2. Wow. I can't believe someone actually noticed that lol. I mean...it doesn't change much. Generally, both buses are the same. |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 6, 2016 23:06:39 GMT
Hi 'phoenixcronin' and welcome to the forum I'm glad you've mentioned this as I thought I was the only one who noticed it. It may be minor, but I also wondered why Stagecoach's examples still have the older headlight design without the groove yet other E200/E400s started to have them since 2011. Perhaps it is simply down to aesthetic reasons on Stagecoach's behalf? I prefer the newer design as it adds a difference to an otherwise relatively bland headlight design. I'd assume cost of parts. We all know how Stagecoach like standardisation within their fleets. However AFAIK they're the only ones where on refurb, the licence plates on the rear of the E400 is being put on the rear skirt from the rear window. Again all down to cost and practicality Normally, I'd say it's them being extra by having to different to everyone else but having the older headlight surrounds makes sense for the reasons you mention, plus I've always preferred them to the ones with the silly gap in where the day running light is normally positioned as personally, they looks so much better |
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Post by londonbusboy on Jun 7, 2016 7:31:55 GMT
Stagecoach E200 examples have 2 panes of glass on the front, 1 for blind area and 1 for windscreen where as other operators seem to have it as 1 pane
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