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Post by vjaska on Aug 17, 2021 11:30:01 GMT
Oh guess what, the cost has considerably reduced now H&F know they can't get anyone else to cover the costs. Strange that! Or, as per the article, the original proposal cost so much due to uncertainty surrounding the pedestals of the bridge whereas now their condition is fully known and not as bad as first thought, they can use a much cheaper method to strengthen the bridge |
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Post by snowman on Aug 21, 2021 12:21:38 GMT
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Post by thelondonthing on Nov 28, 2021 19:30:04 GMT
Not bus-related, but Baroness Vere - the feckless mop appointed by the Government to head up its laughably named Hammersmith Bridge Taskforce - has revealed that the previously announced ferry service has been cancelled, as it's no longer needed. You may recall that Vere originally declared 14 months ago that - under her leadership - the Taskforce had determined that a ferry service would be essential. She also congratulated herself on "getting the job done". She said the ferry would launch in spring 2021, but despite the announcement in March that Uber Boat by Thames Clippers would operate the service, it never actually began. The reopening of the bridge to pedestrians in July means the ferry is now unnecessary. One has to wonder what financial penalties TfL will now have to pay as a result of being forced to cancel its contract with Thames Clippers - a contract that it undoubtedly wanted absolutely no part of in the first place. |
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Post by YX10FFN on Nov 28, 2021 19:39:58 GMT
Not bus-related, but Baroness Vere - the feckless mop appointed by the Government to head up its laughably named Hammersmith Bridge Taskforce - has revealed that the previously announced ferry service has been cancelled, as it's no longer needed. You may recall that Vere originally declared 14 months ago that - under her leadership - the Taskforce had determined that a ferry service would be essential. She also congratulated herself on "getting the job done". She said the ferry would launch in spring 2021, but despite the announcement in March that Uber Boat by Thames Clippers would operate the service, it never actually began. The reopening of the bridge to pedestrians in July means the ferry is now unnecessary. One has to wonder what financial penalties TfL will now have to pay as a result of being forced to cancel its contract with Thames Clippers - a contract that it undoubtedly wanted absolutely no part of in the first place. The ferry was a ridiculous idea in the first place, the cost of constructing the piers alone would probably be more than the cost of essential structural repairs to open the bridge to pedestrians. When they knew opening the bridge to pedestrians was in the pipeline, why did they even bother awarding a contract? I'm p*ssed off with pretty much everyone involved with Hammersmith Bridge. |
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Nov 28, 2021 20:12:31 GMT
Not bus-related, but Baroness Vere - the feckless mop appointed by the Government to head up its laughably named Hammersmith Bridge Taskforce - has revealed that the previously announced ferry service has been cancelled, as it's no longer needed. You may recall that Vere originally declared 14 months ago that - under her leadership - the Taskforce had determined that a ferry service would be essential. She also congratulated herself on "getting the job done". She said the ferry would launch in spring 2021, but despite the announcement in March that Uber Boat by Thames Clippers would operate the service, it never actually began. The reopening of the bridge to pedestrians in July means the ferry is now unnecessary. One has to wonder what financial penalties TfL will now have to pay as a result of being forced to cancel its contract with Thames Clippers - a contract that it undoubtedly wanted absolutely no part of in the first place. The ferry was a ridiculous idea in the first place, the cost of constructing the piers alone would probably be more than the cost of essential structural repairs to open the bridge to pedestrians. When they knew opening the bridge to pedestrians was in the pipeline, why did they even bother awarding a contract? I'm p*ssed off with pretty much everyone involved with Hammersmith Bridge. Got to admit I'm with you on that. Just get it up and running, we need it back. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 28, 2021 21:06:12 GMT
Fingers crossed then that this is hopefully an indication that the Bridge will able to stay open for the foreseeable now.
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Post by lundnah on Dec 2, 2021 13:42:49 GMT
Hammersmith Bridge reopened to pedestrians and cyclists on 19th July.
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Post by rm1422 on Dec 16, 2021 10:35:24 GMT
I was amazed to discover that after all this time the Hammersmith Bridge closure related info is still wrong at some bus stops. I could list others but will just mention this one...
There's a wonderfully inaccurate official yellow sign at the Castlenau bound Barnes Pond stop served by the 209 and 485. It says if you are travelling north of the river you should get a 265 towards Putney Heath (even though it doesn't go there ) get off at Putney Bridge station and change on to a 220.
It doesn't mention that there's a direct bus to Hammersmith from the other side of the road!
It's also so badly thought through it doesn't suggest getting off the 265 at St Mary's Church / Putney Pier stop which is a few feet away from a 220 stop. The Putney Bridge Station option involves a few minutes walk and the need to cross the main road at the bridge.
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Post by thelondonthing on Jan 6, 2022 12:46:53 GMT
The 533 is getting a permanent (and fairly significant) reduction in service. While the current timetable provides up to 6 buses per hour (every 10 mins) at the busiest times, with 5bph (every 12 mins) during the day and 4bph (every 15 mins) in the evenings, a new timetable is being introduced on 15 January, which will reduce the service to run every 15 minutes - all day, every day. The announcement, published on the TfL Bus Changes page, gives no indication that this might be a temporary change; for example, in response to staffing problems under pressure from Omicron. Timetable revisions that are temporary are listed on the Bus Changes page with "until further notice" in their descriptions - a phrase that is absent from the 533's entry. Given that Hammersmith Bridge reopened to pedestrians and cyclists almost six months ago, it's not surprising that the 533 is seeing its frequency cut. Indeed, when you consider that demand for the service has surely fallen since the bridge partially reopened, there can be little justification for continuing to run so many buses on the route (although I'm sure the vocal locals will see the situation differently...). |
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Post by evergreenadam on Jan 6, 2022 23:19:01 GMT
The 533 is getting a permanent (and fairly significant) reduction in service. While the current timetable provides up to 6 buses per hour (every 10 mins) at the busiest times, with 5bph (every 12 mins) during the day and 4bph (every 15 mins) in the evenings, a new timetable is being introduced on 15 January, which will reduce the service to run every 15 minutes - all day, every day. The announcement, published on the TfL Bus Changes page, gives no indication that this might be a temporary change; for example, in response to staffing problems under pressure from Omicron. Timetable revisions that are temporary are listed on the Bus Changes page with "until further notice" in their descriptions - a phrase that is absent from the 533's entry. Given that Hammersmith Bridge reopened to pedestrians and cyclists almost six months ago, it's not surprising that the 533 is seeing its frequency cut. Indeed, when you consider that demand for the service has surely fallen since the bridge partially reopened, there can be little justification for continuing to run so many buses on the route (although I'm sure the vocal locals will see the situation differently...). The stops in Chiswick along the A316 were removed from route 533, much to the annoyance of local residents who benefited from a fast service to Hammersmith and a ‘round the corner’ link to Mortlake and Barnes. The reason given at the time was ‘to preserve capacity for residents on the south side of the river.’ Rather than reinstating the Chiswick bus stops in the face of reduced demand for the service from the south side of the river and improving cross river bus links, TfL has instead taken the opportunity to reduce the frequency of the route. Am I surprised? |
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Post by YX10FFN on Jan 6, 2022 23:34:43 GMT
The 533 is getting a permanent (and fairly significant) reduction in service. While the current timetable provides up to 6 buses per hour (every 10 mins) at the busiest times, with 5bph (every 12 mins) during the day and 4bph (every 15 mins) in the evenings, a new timetable is being introduced on 15 January, which will reduce the service to run every 15 minutes - all day, every day. The announcement, published on the TfL Bus Changes page, gives no indication that this might be a temporary change; for example, in response to staffing problems under pressure from Omicron. Timetable revisions that are temporary are listed on the Bus Changes page with "until further notice" in their descriptions - a phrase that is absent from the 533's entry. Given that Hammersmith Bridge reopened to pedestrians and cyclists almost six months ago, it's not surprising that the 533 is seeing its frequency cut. Indeed, when you consider that demand for the service has surely fallen since the bridge partially reopened, there can be little justification for continuing to run so many buses on the route (although I'm sure the vocal locals will see the situation differently...). The stops in Chiswick along the A316 were removed from route 533, much to the annoyance of local residents who benefited from a fast service to Hammersmith and a ‘round the corner’ link to Mortlake and Barnes. The reason given at the time was ‘to preserve capacity for residents on the south side of the river.’ Rather than reinstating the Chiswick bus stops in the face of reduced demand for the service from the south side of the river and improving cross river bus links, TfL has instead taken the opportunity to reduce the frequency of the route. Am I surprised? At the time the change was made to not stop in Chiswick, the service was buckling under extremely heavy demand, mostly because there was no physical way to cross Hammersmith Bridge which meant Barnes and Mortlake residents were both piled on to the 533, but also Chiswick residents using it instead of the 190 because it was much quicker as you mentioned. So at the time, that decision made complete sense. And from that change, the service is far more reliable and efficient. Only a month and a half after that, however, the bridge reopened to pedestrians, cutting off a chunk of the 533's demand, namely the northern half of Barnes. There are times of the day where the 533 can get pretty quiet, but they're not cutting the frequency in the off-peak times. The reason why this cut is significant and extreme is it is a cut to the peak times. I've mentioned elsewhere certain scenarios where the 533 is still well used to this day, particularly quick interchange with other methods of transport in Hammersmith to get to a final destination of Mortlake and Barnes. So they're cutting it I'm sure in the name of the bridge reopening to pedestrians, but which time of day they're cutting it will have an effect on the still healthy commuter demand the route attracts. If they really want to cut it I'd suggest reducing it to 20 minutes in the evenings. But there's plenty of evidence to show why peaks should remain at 10 minutes. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jan 8, 2022 6:13:55 GMT
This reduction to route 533 will be partially mitigated by its upgrade from DE to DEL (ex route 235).
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Post by vjaska on Jan 8, 2022 10:30:10 GMT
This reduction to route 533 will be partially mitigated by its upgrade from DE to DEL (ex route 235). Where has it been confirmed that the 533 will receive DEL’s? |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jan 8, 2022 11:53:27 GMT
This reduction to route 533 will be partially mitigated by its upgrade from DE to DEL (ex route 235). Where has it been confirmed that the 533 will receive DEL’s? Metroline thread posts 19678/89/91. |
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Post by snowman on Mar 22, 2022 16:55:45 GMT
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