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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 1, 2022 7:47:06 GMT
The agreement was that it would be locked as soon as new fleet numbers are released. Why are you so worried about it? Could we not leave the thread unlocked for historic discussion on HCT. As the Tower Transit thread was left open for 3 months, maybe this thread should be kept open for a similar period? Then if there were any developments regarding the HCT fleet these could still be covered here. Plus the renumbering, although announced, has not been implemented yet.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 1, 2022 7:39:34 GMT
Then we could renumber route 34 to B5 and route 184 to B6. Then we would have additional examples of B routes meeting W routes as well as B1/W7 at Muswell Hill. On second thoughts, route 84 did for a while extend beyond Barnet to Arnos Grove, if not indeed Turnpike Lane. So, route 184 could be renumbered 84 then route 484 regain its previous number 184. And 326 becomes B2 And another one. Route 263 renumbered B3. Then route C11 would meet routes B2 at Brent Cross and B3 at Archway.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 1, 2022 7:10:51 GMT
C1 - 311 if not, 351 C3 - Withdrawn possible C10 - 310 C11 - 239 just my idea suggestion. WTF regarding the C11! I assume historical value is clearly of no value here...on Friday 14th October the C11 turns 50! Confusing much?
I have not actively engaged in this thread but most of these ideas are baloney. There are some obscure prefixed examples such as the G1 which could have an argument to be renumbered however it has existed for 35 years so I wouldn't really change a thing now. Some renumberings such as the T33 made sense however because of the collapse of the Tramlink feeder network (and it hadn't existed particularly long before then anyway!)
As route 239 did traditionally start at Archway the idea is not bad. However, as route 239 linked Archway, Tufnell Park and Euston before continuing to Waterloo, the number 239 would suit current route 390. It would be traditional route 239 rerouted direct between Archway and Tufnell Park then diverted to Victoria instead of Waterloo.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 1, 2022 7:05:19 GMT
Please note that this is a fantasy idea: Barnet proposals: It would be cool to introduce B prefix routes so it can be like the network in Uxbridge, Kingston and Orpington 234 becomes B1 383 becomes B3 384 becomes B4 389 becomes B8 399 becomes B9 This would get rid of some of the higher numbers which can be used elsewhere Then we could renumber route 34 to B5 and route 184 to B6. Then we would have additional examples of B routes meeting W routes as well as B1/W7 at Muswell Hill. On second thoughts, route 84 did for a while extend beyond Barnet to Arnos Grove, if not indeed Turnpike Lane. So, route 184 could be renumbered 84 then route 484 regain its previous number 184.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 1, 2022 7:01:21 GMT
A few examples 'purely' under a senario of TfL withdrawing prefix lettered route numbers: C1 to 311 C10 to 10 P5 to 435 P12 to 342 P13 to 373 I'd like the number 373 to be used for current route 273. It would only change 1 digit at the beginning but would, importantly, vacate the number 273 for route U7 to get its traditional number back.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 1, 2022 6:58:42 GMT
5 and 205 swapped. To make the 5 a central London route. Or: 15 becomes 5 115 becomes 15 5 becomes 115 To have those routes in ascending order with the lowest numbers in central London As route 5 was traditionally the route linking Commercial Road with Shoreditch, routes 5 & 135 could swap numbers. As they never intersect it need not cause passenger confusion. Plus it would satisfy Stagecoach to regain route 5
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 1, 2022 6:54:49 GMT
H12 to 395 395 to H12 390 to 10 148 to 48 I do not see the point of any of this. Even more why change the 148 to 48, both are redundant East London area routes that had Titans on. If the number 48 is resurrected for current route 248 instead of 148, we would again experience Arriva LTs on a route 48
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 1, 2022 6:52:03 GMT
55 becomes 48 because the new route is more 48 than 55. The 48 could have been diverted to Oxford Circus instead of being withdrawn and the 55 withdrawn instead 507 becomes 11 because the new routing is kind of ridiculous and i'd prefer the 507 to be withdrawn I'd prefer the number 48 to be used for current route 56 rather than 55. Route 48 did traditionally link Whipps Cross, Hackney Downs and Dalston Junction until 1990 before continuing to London Bridge. Route 56 was introduced in 1990 when route 48 was rerouted via Cambridge Heath. Route 507 will be best double-decked when extended to Fulham Broadway, and the number 11 will then suit it.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 24, 2022 13:02:05 GMT
Tomorrow Arriva gain 248 from Grays 17 buses for PVR of 15 LT 88-94 (ex Abellio) built 2013 so 9 years old LT 136-142 (ex RATP) built early 2014 so 8.5 years old Having now seen it in the flesh, that turn in the Cranham Moor Lane Terminus must be a tight-fit with an LT Let's hope the lion sleeps tonight
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 24, 2022 12:50:16 GMT
I hope the W5 examples, and if possible the 339 examples, have Stagecoach interiors. I also hope it's not too ambitious to want to ride one on route W5 next July. Well seeing as electrics are being delayed left right and centr you're best waiting until October You may well be wise to suggest this. I would ideally combine it with an Electroliner on route 307. So that's 2 batches I would wait to see in service before heading that way.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 24, 2022 12:48:08 GMT
There are still some on route 96 so this depends on which ones last longer. Not sure why there still are any Scanias left at PD, unless they are just for refurb cover now? The 96 was given a new allocation of 14reg E40Hs at the start of its current contract (from the 54/75). The Scanias had been allocated to the 472, but are now surplus since the PVR was cut as part of the reroute to Abbey Wood. Even if they are still covering for refurbs of E400Hs, I did still see a few on route 96 on August 30th.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 24, 2022 8:20:06 GMT
Some news reports describe travel misery for commuters, even though on days like these it's more leisure travellers affected.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 24, 2022 8:14:26 GMT
I expected my ride on TN33159 with First in Norwich to be my final President ride.
Not so! In Lincoln on September 13th I rode President and ALX400 Tridents with Stagecoach in Lincoln. Surprisingly, the ALX had been repainted into 2020 livery. Maybe Stagecoach are not purchasing many new buses for the time being?
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 24, 2022 8:11:20 GMT
Former Metroline VW1801/1802 now with First South West but to enter service closed top So, additional examples of buses new to First (London) being reacquired by First.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 24, 2022 8:09:35 GMT
Former Stagecoach London 17079/099/274-276/515 & 18497 Former Metroline TE897-899/901-902/1582 Former Abellio 9430/33-34/36/38/42 All now with McGills Maybe these will replace the oldest double-decks they have inherited within their former First Scotland East operation?
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