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Post by rhys on Jul 12, 2019 23:50:16 GMT
It appears that the 8 will be the first LT route to convert to two door operation from August 9th, the rear door to no longer be used for boarding/alighting. The EL1, EL2 and EL3 are said to then follow. Wait, so the rear door won't be used at all? I'd have thought it would still be used for alighting. The rear staircase would be pretty pointless otherwise. The rear door will still be used exclusively for alighting. Going off the picture above, it seems there are two buttons to open the front/mid & rear doors and three buttons to close all three.
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Post by M1104 on Jul 13, 2019 2:29:22 GMT
It appears that the 8 will be the first LT route to convert to two door operation from August 9th, the rear door to no longer be used for boarding/alighting. The EL1, EL2 and EL3 are said to then follow. Wait, so the rear door won't be used at all? I'd have thought it would still be used for alighting. The rear staircase would be pretty pointless otherwise. Sorry, rear doors will still be in use for exit. I misread "..two door-open button.." as two door operation (that's what I get for reading it up too quickly).
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Post by george on Jul 13, 2019 9:18:39 GMT
Now the LTs are becoming front door boarding only, do you think that they will now start appearing on more routes that aren't allocated to them?
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Post by M1104 on Jul 13, 2019 10:20:10 GMT
Now the LTs are becoming front door boarding only, do you think that they will now start appearing on more routes that aren't allocated to them? I had thought that myself though I imagine they will not drift straightaway as i believe the majority only have blinds for the LT routes? Mind you that hasn't stopped odd workings with other types in the past. There's also street infrastructure to review on certain routes seeing as the LTs are roughly a metre longer than the average London decker. Another aspect to ponder on is whether running times on the LT routes will be adjusted to reflect their amended boarding procedures.. especially with them not quite being the quickest of hybrids.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 10:37:21 GMT
I assume the rear door will have some type of warning sticker advising the door will not open.
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Post by Volvo on Jul 13, 2019 12:39:56 GMT
Yea this is just going to be a headache for drivers trying to enforce this, especially on a route like the 149.
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 13, 2019 12:59:43 GMT
I assume the rear door will have some type of warning sticker advising the door will not open. You would hope pretty quickly the rear doors will have red vinyl place over them and the middle doors adorned with no entry signs!
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jul 13, 2019 13:01:56 GMT
I assume the rear door will have some type of warning sticker advising the door will not open. You would hope pretty quickly the rear doors will have red vinyl place over them! It could make a pretty good advertising place on the bus as well.
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Post by redbus on Jul 13, 2019 15:22:48 GMT
Yea this is just going to be a headache for drivers trying to enforce this, especially on a route like the 149. It is going to be a headache all round, including both drivers and passengers.
I understand the thinking behind this, but trying to enforce what amounts to a collective punishment against all LT passengers for the behaviour of a few is just not right. The Mayor would do well to remember his party's current motto 'for the many not the few', as he is bringing a new reverse meaning to it!
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Post by zebedee104 on Jul 13, 2019 15:37:00 GMT
I assume the rear door will have some type of warning sticker advising the door will not open. Why? Under the new regime, the front door is used for boarding only. The middle and rear doors are used for alighting.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 16:03:54 GMT
I assume the rear door will have some type of warning sticker advising the door will not open. Why? Under the new regime, the front door is used for boarding only. The middle and rear doors are used for alighting. And how are passengers meant to know this initially?? The third door will not be used
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Post by wirewiper on Jul 13, 2019 17:18:49 GMT
I assume the rear door will have some type of warning sticker advising the door will not open. The rear door will continue to open, for alighting passengers. However drivers will be able to keep the middle and rear doors closed at a stop if no-one has requested to alight. New door controls will be installed in the drivers' cabs of LTs.
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Post by wirewiper on Jul 13, 2019 17:22:36 GMT
Yea this is just going to be a headache for drivers trying to enforce this, especially on a route like the 149. If I were a driver I would regard it as the job of the Revenue Protection Inspectors to enforce correct boarding. It is after all being brought in for revenue protection reasons.
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Post by zebedee104 on Jul 13, 2019 17:24:54 GMT
Why? Under the new regime, the front door is used for boarding only. The middle and rear doors are used for alighting. And how are passengers meant to know this initially?? The third door will not be used What does that have to do with your incorrect statement that the third door will not open in the post I quoted? It will, but not for boarding. I totally agree that it needs to be publicised and doing it route by route is a recipe for disaster and confusion, but that’s a different point entirely.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 17:30:02 GMT
And how are passengers meant to know this initially?? The third door will not be used What does that have to do with your incorrect statement that the third door will not open in the post I quoted? It will, but not for boarding. I totally agree that it needs to be publicised and doing it route by route is a recipe for disaster and confusion, but that’s a different point entirely. Well I misunderstood I assumed the third door would no longer be used. Thanks for the telling off sir.
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