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Post by rif153 on Jul 1, 2023 15:18:45 GMT
Overground 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Different colours. Or just use the unofficial names (may need to change Goblin as it doesn’t sound too professional though). I think they should keep all renamed lines under the Overground umbrella, potentially with different shades of orange to distinguish. Wiping the name London Overground off the map altogether would be silly and risks confusing people.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jul 1, 2023 15:41:04 GMT
Yeah, however the name isn't associated with the line now which is what I'm trying to say. There's a very small group of people, but GOBLIN being associated with the line is no different to a group of people coming together to suddenly call it the line of misfortune. The name GOBLIN isn't well known among the general public and I'm sure if you went out and asked everyone the name Goblin would barely pop up. Naming it the Goblin would be no different in the eyes of the public to calling it an Elf, Fairy or Vampire because all four names would make no sense to them. It makes sense to theme all the lines together. The name has always been associated with the line, it hasn't suddenly disappeared just because passengers don't call that. Like I said, passengers don't always call lines elsewhere by their associated name - no one says I'm getting the Brighton Mainline to Brighton among other places yet that's the name of the line whether people like it or not so it matters not how well known it is among the public - the public aren't stupid, they'd be able to twigg especially when any announcements would be followed by stations on the line which the public would know. As for your point around the world GOBLIN, I don't think it's as big a deal as it's made out to be as most passengers will only care about the nature of the actual announcement being meaningful to them rather than the name of the line itself - even then, you could simply call it Gospel Oak to Barking line. If the passengers only care about the nature of the announcement, then what's wrong with calling it a different name? Goblin isn't used daily by the punters so there's no reason that name needs to get priority over any other suggestions.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Aug 25, 2023 10:03:56 GMT
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Post by southlondon413 on Aug 25, 2023 10:36:36 GMT
Jesus Christ £6.3m. I could think of a dozen things that money would be better spent on.
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Post by Busboy105 on Aug 25, 2023 13:11:21 GMT
Jesus Christ £6.3m. I could think of a dozen things that money would be better spent on. Does it really cost this much?
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Post by southlondon413 on Aug 25, 2023 13:12:11 GMT
Jesus Christ £6.3m. I could think of a dozen things that money would be better spent on. Does it really cost this much? That’s what the article says.
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Post by northlondon83 on Aug 25, 2023 13:46:09 GMT
Pointless waste of money.
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Post by george on Aug 25, 2023 14:15:56 GMT
This quote really stood out to me. Mr Dance said: "It is a confusing issue, particularly on the very rare occasions when there is disruption on the network, it is extremely important that passengers get a much more focused set of information on where the issue is." "Very rare occasion" certainly not very rare from my experience.
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Post by routew15 on Aug 25, 2023 16:29:32 GMT
Jesus Christ £6.3m. I could think of a dozen things that money would be better spent on. Does it really cost this much? Jago Hazard best explains why the cost makes sense link
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Post by ThinLizzy on Aug 25, 2023 18:11:58 GMT
Jesus Christ £6.3m. I could think of a dozen things that money would be better spent on. for an organisation that makes £9 billion in revenue that really isn't that much money.
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Post by southlondon413 on Aug 25, 2023 18:30:02 GMT
Jesus Christ £6.3m. I could think of a dozen things that money would be better spent on. for an organisation that makes £9 billion in revenue that really isn't that much money. However it is a large, nearly 10%, slice of the operating profit TfL is expected to make. It’s unnecessary and really patronising to regular Overground passengers.
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Post by SILENCED on Aug 25, 2023 19:04:16 GMT
for an organisation that makes £9 billion in revenue that really isn't that much money. However it is a large, nearly 10%, slice of the operating profit TfL is expected to make. It’s unnecessary and really patronising to regular Overground passengers. It is a one off cost that is considerably less than the annual cost of running the 86. Probably similar cost to when Elizabeth line was introduced. The cost of not implementing all the Central London bus cus probably dwarfs this.
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Post by routew15 on Aug 26, 2023 7:12:27 GMT
for an organisation that makes £9 billion in revenue that really isn't that much money. However it is a large, nearly 10%, slice of the operating profit TfL is expected to make. It’s unnecessary and really patronising to regular Overground passengers.Well you’re not speaking on my behalf there sorry. I use the overground daily and would find it beyond advantageous to know the difference between the line I use having severe delays and the Watford DC line being the affected route. Seeing the status update board show severe delays on the overground can be frustrating, only for you to then read it is nothing to do with your line. I cannot wait for the changes and kind of wish TfL would get on with it and stop reannouncing it every few months.
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Post by southlondon413 on Aug 26, 2023 7:20:48 GMT
However it is a large, nearly 10%, slice of the operating profit TfL is expected to make. It’s unnecessary and really patronising to regular Overground passengers.Well you’re not speaking on my behalf there sorry. I use the overground daily and would find it beyond advantageous to know the difference between the line I use having severe delays and the Watford DC line being the affected route. Seeing the status update board show severe delays on the overground can be frustrating, only for you to then read it is nothing to do with your line. I cannot wait for the changes and kind of wish TfL would get on with it and stop reannouncing it every few months. So you’ve noticed delays, read the board like you should and discovered it isn’t your line affected. So you did everything you’re supposed to do, so exactly where is the problem? Saving yourself 2 seconds will make all the difference, I’m sure. It’s just another part of the dumbing down of our nation. Perhaps they should rename all branch lines on the tube next? Give the Wimbledon to Edgware Road District Line branch a different name because it’d be easier to figure out delays?
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Post by greenboy on Aug 26, 2023 7:52:03 GMT
However it is a large, nearly 10%, slice of the operating profit TfL is expected to make. It’s unnecessary and really patronising to regular Overground passengers.Well you’re not speaking on my behalf there sorry. I use the overground daily and would find it beyond advantageous to know the difference between the line I use having severe delays and the Watford DC line being the affected route. Seeing the status update board show severe delays on the overground can be frustrating, only for you to then read it is nothing to do with your line. I cannot wait for the changes and kind of wish TfL would get on with it and stop reannouncing it every few months. I understand what you're saying but surely all that's needed is clearer updates, ie delays on LO between X and Y as would happen on the SouthEastern network for example?
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