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Post by 725DYE on Apr 12, 2019 11:45:41 GMT
This one also tracking within the zone so in less than a hour two opperators will be getting fines. Indeed, hopefully a fine will knock them into shape. There really was no need to put a diesel out on the 47 earlier and have it do the full route especially at the time of day. Do you have some sort of inside knowledge because it seems to be like a comment from someone who works in the garage? How could you possibly know - there could've been ULEZ complaint buses unfit for service and therefore unavailable. Yes there may be a fine for sending a non-complaint vehicle into the ULEZ, but I reckon its fair to say that having a bus is better than no bus!
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Post by sid on Apr 12, 2019 11:53:43 GMT
Indeed, hopefully a fine will knock them into shape. There really was no need to put a diesel out on the 47 earlier and have it do the full route especially at the time of day. Do you have some sort of inside knowledge because it seems to be like a comment from someone who works in the garage? How could you possibly know - there could've been ULEZ complaint buses unfit for service and therefore unavailable. Yes there may be a fine for sending a non-complaint vehicle into the ULEZ, but I reckon its fair to say that having a bus is better than no bus! That's not how TfL will see it, operators have been informed about the changes and they know what the consequences are. It was probably driver error?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 13:17:49 GMT
Indeed, hopefully a fine will knock them into shape. There really was no need to put a diesel out on the 47 earlier and have it do the full route especially at the time of day. Do you have some sort of inside knowledge because it seems to be like a comment from someone who works in the garage? How could you possibly know - there could've been ULEZ complaint buses unfit for service and therefore unavailable. Yes there may be a fine for sending a non-complaint vehicle into the ULEZ, but I reckon its fair to say that having a bus is better than no bus! As a matter of fact I do which is why I can confidently say there was no reason.
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Post by Londontransport3 on Apr 15, 2019 21:11:43 GMT
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Post by YX10FFN on Apr 16, 2019 16:50:56 GMT
Okay what is going on with the 207! I thought Hayes garage was closing/being refurbished and that the 207 would be operated from TF, but according to londonbusroutes.net, it is at WS. Plus, 427 buses are always on it.
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Post by rif153 on Apr 16, 2019 17:22:45 GMT
Okay what is going on with the 207! I thought Hayes garage was closing/being refurbished and that the 207 would be operated from TF, but according to londonbusroutes.net, it is at WS. Plus, 427 buses are always on it. The batch of MMCs at WS is flexible, it doesn't matter what MMC WS put out on the 427 however I think they would get in trouble for putting a 207 E400 on the 427 because the 427 is supposed to run with hybrids only
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Post by COBO on Apr 16, 2019 17:33:01 GMT
Okay what is going on with the 207! I thought Hayes garage was closing/being refurbished and that the 207 would be operated from TF, but according to londonbusroutes.net, it is at WS. Plus, 427 buses are always on it. Hayes garage is not shutting down and the 207 is being operated Hayes (WS) garage not TF.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 16, 2019 17:46:26 GMT
Okay what is going on with the 207! I thought Hayes garage was closing/being refurbished and that the 207 would be operated from TF, but according to londonbusroutes.net, it is at WS. Plus, 427 buses are always on it. The 207 was won on the basis it runs from the new Southall garage (not to be confused with the current Southall garage, AB) but it’s not ready yet so was scheduled to run from TF. This was altered to run from WS instead. WS isn’t closing either. As for the 427 buses being on the 207, that happens at most garages where the everyday allocation is flexible.
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Post by jordzjohn123 on Apr 22, 2019 16:10:19 GMT
As Abellio are now have always ordered ADL buses for single and double deck, it would be nice if they order Enviro 400H City's (not saying that they should stop ordering Enviro 400 MMCs) but Abellio should go for a different ADL type and I think the Enviro 400H city would be good as for Stagecoach aswell, there isn't any Enviro 400H City's in North West/West London so it would be nice to see those there
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Post by wirewiper on Apr 22, 2019 16:41:41 GMT
As Abellio are now have always ordered ADL buses for single and double deck, it would be nice if they order Enviro 400H City's (not saying that they should stop ordering Enviro 400 MMCs) but Abellio should go for a different ADL type and I think the Enviro 400H city would be good as for Stagecoach aswell, there isn't any Enviro 400H City's in North West/West London so it would be nice to see those there The E400H City is more expensive than the E400H MMC, which is why relatively few have been purchased for London service. Even though it came about at a time when Transport for London was encouraging manufacturers to incorporate elements of the New Routemaster into its designs. The big surprise though, has been the enthusiastic take-up of the E400 City design by operators outside London, looking for something stylish, different and a little more upmarket for their flagship services.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 22, 2019 16:46:06 GMT
As Abellio are now have always ordered ADL buses for single and double deck, it would be nice if they order Enviro 400H City's (not saying that they should stop ordering Enviro 400 MMCs) but Abellio should go for a different ADL type and I think the Enviro 400H city would be good as for Stagecoach aswell, there isn't any Enviro 400H City's in North West/West London so it would be nice to see those there The E400H City is more expensive than the E400H MMC, which is why relatively few have been purchased for London service. Even though it came about at a time when Transport for London was encouraging manufacturers to incorporate elements of the New Routemaster into its designs. The big surprise though, has been the enthusiastic take-up of the E400 City design by operators outside London, looking for something stylish, different and a little more upmarket for their flagship services. A case in point that did surprise me was First Glasgow recently introducing City's on Airport Express route 500 when they have been receiving MMCs for several other routes. On Saturday I even managed to change from City 33108 to MMC 33408. Reading also have gas Scanias both with E400-MMC and E400-City bodywork.
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Post by sid on Apr 22, 2019 17:02:03 GMT
As Abellio are now have always ordered ADL buses for single and double deck, it would be nice if they order Enviro 400H City's (not saying that they should stop ordering Enviro 400 MMCs) but Abellio should go for a different ADL type and I think the Enviro 400H city would be good as for Stagecoach aswell, there isn't any Enviro 400H City's in North West/West London so it would be nice to see those there The E400H City is more expensive than the E400H MMC, which is why relatively few have been purchased for London service. Even though it came about at a time when Transport for London was encouraging manufacturers to incorporate elements of the New Routemaster into its designs. The big surprise though, has been the enthusiastic take-up of the E400 City design by operators outside London, looking for something stylish, different and a little more upmarket for their flagship services. I think the E400 City is a fantastic looking bus especially when decked out in an attractive livery. I was in Nottingham recently and NCT have some more bio gas versions entering service and there's a definite wow factor about them. Unfortunately there's no incentive for TfL operators to push the boat out beyond the minimum requirement.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 22, 2019 17:32:55 GMT
The E400H City is more expensive than the E400H MMC, which is why relatively few have been purchased for London service. Even though it came about at a time when Transport for London was encouraging manufacturers to incorporate elements of the New Routemaster into its designs. The big surprise though, has been the enthusiastic take-up of the E400 City design by operators outside London, looking for something stylish, different and a little more upmarket for their flagship services. I think the E400 City is a fantastic looking bus especially when decked out in an attractive livery. I was in Nottingham recently and NCT have some more bio gas versions entering service and there's a definite wow factor about them. Unfortunately there's no incentive for TfL operators to push the boat out beyond the minimum requirement. Whilst the City is a nice looking bus, so is the regular MMC so it’s really down to preference - CT Plus & Arriva preferred the City model whilst everyone else preferred the regular one. Even in the provinces, there’s no difference between the two models bar one having some extra curves.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 18:09:23 GMT
I think the E400 City is a fantastic looking bus especially when decked out in an attractive livery. I was in Nottingham recently and NCT have some more bio gas versions entering service and there's a definite wow factor about them. Unfortunately there's no incentive for TfL operators to push the boat out beyond the minimum requirement. Whilst the City is a nice looking bus, so is the regular MMC so it’s really down to preference - CT Plus & Arriva preferred the City model whilst everyone else preferred the regular one. Even in the provinces, there’s no difference between the two models bar one having some extra curves. Yeah, CT especially as it’s only double decker type. I must say the city has lots of character. EDIT: Excluding the E400H,
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Post by george on Apr 22, 2019 19:10:45 GMT
Just seen 2518 go through Hammersmith heading down the great west road. Probably heading back to Hayes but seems strange place for it to go unless Uxbridge road is closed
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