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Post by E279 on Nov 23, 2019 18:19:16 GMT
TF for reliability... (Here it goes) Route 117: Was run pretty well Route 235: Run well but buses kept on being bunched together with curtailments often - service under Metroline much improved Route 290: Run fine Route 350: Run fine Route 481: Havent been on this Route 490: Run pretty well - haven't seen much problems on this route but due to the Feltham bridge works the traffic is terrible Route H20: Haven't been on this Route H25: Run quite well - I remember back then when the service was so bad that it actually appeared on the paper! Route H26: Worst out of all of them - for such a small route there was bunching at one point but extremely rare and buses were 90% of the time late Route H28: Haven't been on this route Route If you’ve only went on these routes for one day then you cannot really be 100% on reliability. Some routes may have a usually good service but for those 1/2 times you have went on it could be those odd days where the service has ran bad for whatever reason maybe due to diversions of bad traffic.
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Post by LK65EBO on Nov 23, 2019 18:29:17 GMT
TF for reliability... (Here it goes) Route 117: Was run pretty well Route 235: Run well but buses kept on being bunched together with curtailments often - service under Metroline much improved Route 290: Run fine Route 350: Run fine Route 481: Havent been on this Route 490: Run pretty well - haven't seen much problems on this route but due to the Feltham bridge works the traffic is terrible Route H20: Haven't been on this Route H25: Run quite well - I remember back then when the service was so bad that it actually appeared on the paper! Route H26: Worst out of all of them - for such a small route there was bunching at one point but extremely rare and buses were 90% of the time late Route H28: Haven't been on this route Route If you’ve only went on these routes for one day then you cannot really be 100% on reliability. Some routes may have  a usually good service but for those 1/2 times you have went on it could be those odd days where the service has ran bad for whatever reason maybe due to diversions of bad traffic.  Most of these are locals so I go on them most of the time.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Nov 23, 2019 21:41:08 GMT
What running numbers are the 24, 27 and 267 using. Would be nice if LT24 was on the 24 as QB24 lol ... on the 24th of a month in 2024 ;D Is it known if any of the Enviros have received blind updates? This is bearing in mind that some of them already have 159 in case there's any possible lack of serviceable LTs from Monday I first rode GA London General route 24 on the 24th, of November 2007. Today 23rd I rode route 23.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Nov 23, 2019 21:43:28 GMT
Abellio drivers on route 24 are instructed to use one of the following 3 options to get to Hampstead Heath 1. Route 156 to Clapham Junction then London Overground to Hampstead Heath 2. Route 137 to Clapham Common then Northern Line to Belsize Park the walk to Hampstead Heath 3. Bus to Vauxhall, Victoria Line to Warren Street, then Northern Line to Belsize park then as option 2. For options 2&3,do they get a shoe allowance? If not, they will dig their heels in.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Nov 23, 2019 21:47:01 GMT
I was irritated having to wait 1/2 hour for a 345 this morning, as it risked me having time for fewer buses later. However, it all turned out for the best as it enabled me to track down a Smart Hybrid on route 207, namely 2003. Maybe I was imagining things but it seemed smoother than Hybrids from other Abellio routes 45, 109 & 350.
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Post by rif153 on Nov 23, 2019 21:49:36 GMT
I was irritated having to wait 1/2 hour for a 345 this morning, as it risked me having time for fewer buses later. However, it all turned out for the best as it enabled me to track down a Smart Hybrid on route 207, namely 2003. Nice. 2003 has a special place in my heart as I had a long journey on the 207 on it on day one of Abellio operation. The Smarts are decent, but it does feel nice to see one on the route because of how rare they area.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Nov 23, 2019 21:52:25 GMT
I was irritated having to wait 1/2 hour for a 345 this morning, as it risked me having time for fewer buses later. However, it all turned out for the best as it enabled me to track down a Smart Hybrid on route 207, namely 2003. Nice. 2003 has a special place in my heart as I had a long journey on the 207 on it on day one of Abellio operation. The Smarts are decent, but it does feel nice to see one on the route because of how rare they area. Yes they are still rare. Admittedly I did later see 2002 too. I particularly liked 2003 having the GW code, and thus sampling this 8 months earlier than anticipated.
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Post by M1199 on Nov 23, 2019 22:43:37 GMT
TF for reliability... (Here it goes) Route 117: Was run pretty well Route 235: Run well but buses kept on being bunched together with curtailments often - service under Metroline much improved Route 290: Run fine Route 350: Run fine Route 481: Havent been on this Route 490: Run pretty well - haven't seen much problems on this route but due to the Feltham bridge works the traffic is terrible Route H20: Haven't been on this Route H25: Run quite well - I remember back then when the service was so bad that it actually appeared on the paper! Route H26: Worst out of all of them - for such a small route there was bunching at one point but extremely rare and buses were 90% of the time late Route H28: Haven't been on this route Route I work out of T5 nowadays and since the 350 moved back to WS, I've found its service to be woeful at times! Had regular waits of +30-40 minutes before one turns up, usually on a turn to Harmondsworth with another in hot pursuit close behind! Ever since it and the U5 were rerouted, I've noticed the difference in reliability. With the 350 now going through Hayes town, it can take an age getting from the Station up to the Printing House Lane stop. With the 20min frequency, get snarled up there, your chasing your tail all the way to T5, resulting in the gaps in service. When the U5 went that way, as it is on a 12min frequency, you got a gap, but it wasn't as noticeable.
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Post by rif153 on Nov 23, 2019 23:21:59 GMT
TF for reliability... (Here it goes) Route 117: Was run pretty well Route 235: Run well but buses kept on being bunched together with curtailments often - service under Metroline much improved Route 290: Run fine Route 350: Run fine Route 481: Havent been on this Route 490: Run pretty well - haven't seen much problems on this route but due to the Feltham bridge works the traffic is terrible Route H20: Haven't been on this Route H25: Run quite well - I remember back then when the service was so bad that it actually appeared on the paper! Route H26: Worst out of all of them - for such a small route there was bunching at one point but extremely rare and buses were 90% of the time late Route H28: Haven't been on this route Route I work out of T5 nowadays and since the 350 moved back to WS, I've found its service to be woeful at times! Had regular waits of +30-40 minutes before one turns up, usually on a turn to Harmondsworth with another in hot pursuit close behind! Ever since it and the U5 were rerouted, I've noticed the difference in reliability. With the 350 now going through Hayes town, it can take an age getting from the Station up to the Printing House Lane stop. With the 20min frequency, get snarled up there, your chasing your tail all the way to T5, resulting in the gaps in service. When the U5 went that way, as it is on a 12min frequency, you got a gap, but it wasn't as noticeable. Ideally Hayes Town would become bus only, the congestion along there is abhorrent and routes like the 140 get absoloutely hammered by it.
Of course the 350 was run with deckers for a few years up until the 350/U5 changes, do you feel the route needs deckers now?
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Post by M1199 on Nov 23, 2019 23:57:45 GMT
I work out of T5 nowadays and since the 350 moved back to WS, I've found its service to be woeful at times! Had regular waits of +30-40 minutes before one turns up, usually on a turn to Harmondsworth with another in hot pursuit close behind! Ever since it and the U5 were rerouted, I've noticed the difference in reliability. With the 350 now going through Hayes town, it can take an age getting from the Station up to the Printing House Lane stop. With the 20min frequency, get snarled up there, your chasing your tail all the way to T5, resulting in the gaps in service. When the U5 went that way, as it is on a 12min frequency, you got a gap, but it wasn't as noticeable. Ideally Hayes Town would become bus only, the congestion along there is abhorrent and routes like the 140 get absoloutely hammered by it.
Of course the 350 was run with deckers for a few years up until the 350/U5 changes, do you feel the route needs deckers now?
Don't let Hayes resident's here you say the town should be bus only, they campaigned for years to get the High Street unpedestrianised! I don't think it need double deckers again, it's a weird one, during the Airport shift changovers, it carry's standing loads to & From West Drayton but outside these times it's quite quiet. Could probably do with a frequency increase during these times I reckon.
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Post by george on Nov 24, 2019 0:16:22 GMT
Ideally Hayes Town would become bus only, the congestion along there is abhorrent and routes like the 140 get absoloutely hammered by it.
Of course the 350 was run with deckers for a few years up until the 350/U5 changes, do you feel the route needs deckers now?
Don't let Hayes resident's here you say the town should be bus only, they campaigned for years to get the High Street unpedestrianised! I don't think it need double deckers again, it's a weird one, during the Airport shift changovers, it carry's standing loads to & From West Drayton but outside these times it's quite quiet. Could probably do with a frequency increase during these times I reckon. Surely the changeovers happen at all different times depending on what role you do?
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Post by M1199 on Nov 24, 2019 0:50:29 GMT
Don't let Hayes resident's here you say the town should be bus only, they campaigned for years to get the High Street unpedestrianised! I don't think it need double deckers again, it's a weird one, during the Airport shift changovers, it carry's standing loads to & From West Drayton but outside these times it's quite quiet. Could probably do with a frequency increase during these times I reckon. Surely the changeovers happen at all different times depending on what role you do? Indeed, ours for example are at 6, 14 & 22hrs, with people starting up to 30min before then and finishing up to 30min after then. From my understanding a lot of other roles work like that too. As it's a low frequency route, journeys are spread out more, which is rather a inconvenience to us, as it means having to spend more time doing doing work related stuff! One that I can't fathom is how the 423 still runs on a 20min frequency, that route is always rammed! But that's for a different thread!
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Post by rif153 on Nov 24, 2019 9:04:55 GMT
Surely the changeovers happen at all different times depending on what role you do? Indeed, ours for example are at 6, 14 & 22hrs, with people starting up to 30min before then and finishing up to 30min after then. From my understanding a lot of other roles work like that too. As it's a low frequency route, journeys are spread out more, which is rather a inconvenience to us, as it means having to spend more time doing doing work related stuff! One that I can't fathom is how the 423 still runs on a 20min frequency, that route is always rammed! But that's for a different thread! Couldn't agree more about the 423. That route really does need deckers and a frequency increase to every 10min. The route has to struggle alone for swathes of its routes and is very well used so this neglect is lamentable, additionally, decking the 423 would help relieve the 235.
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Post by LK65EBO on Nov 24, 2019 9:18:21 GMT
Indeed, ours for example are at 6, 14 & 22hrs, with people starting up to 30min before then and finishing up to 30min after then. From my understanding a lot of other roles work like that too. As it's a low frequency route, journeys are spread out more, which is rather a inconvenience to us, as it means having to spend more time doing doing work related stuff! One that I can't fathom is how the 423 still runs on a 20min frequency, that route is always rammed! But that's for a different thread! Couldn't agree more about the 423. That route really does need deckers and a frequency increase to every 10min. The route has to struggle alone for swathes of its routes and is very well used so this neglect is lamentable, additionally, decking the 423 would help relieve the 235. I would say the 235 is helped well in Hounslow by routes 116 and 237 and occasionally route 423. The 235 needs help in the Feltham area. 90 partially helps but since it terminates at Feltham its not really any use.
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Post by rif153 on Nov 24, 2019 9:27:05 GMT
Couldn't agree more about the 423. That route really does need deckers and a frequency increase to every 10min. The route has to struggle alone for swathes of its routes and is very well used so this neglect is lamentable, additionally, decking the 423 would help relieve the 235. I would say the 235 is helped well in Hounslow by routes 116 and 237 and occasionally route 423. The 235 needs help in the Feltham area. 90 partially helps but since it terminates at Feltham its not really any use. Decking the 423 won't hurt though. It will create more capacity between Hounslow and Hounslow Heath so consequently will help to ease pressure on the 235. It's lamentable the 235 still uses single deckers, but whilst it's stick with single deckers, then decking parallel routes as has been done with the 116 and E8 is best that can be done.
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