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Post by george on Jun 29, 2019 20:48:36 GMT
The fact that none of the 235s DELs have done the 190 (or 209), despite frequently doing the 117 could suggested that they're not cleared for the route? For the 209 they wouldn't be able to get around mortlake bus station. I can't think of any obvious problems for the 190
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Post by rif153 on Jun 29, 2019 21:34:54 GMT
The fact that none of the 235s DELs have done the 190 (or 209), despite frequently doing the 117 could suggested that they're not cleared for the route? For the 209 then wouldn't be able to get around mortlake bus station. I can't think of any obvious problems for the 190 The only POTENTIAL problem I can forsee is the turnaround at the Empress State Building but VWs seem to manage it fine
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Post by richard on Jun 29, 2019 22:15:24 GMT
BDE2617 on driver training duties seems to be sticking around Archway I have seen it 3 times now It has been doing training for atleast the last 2 weeks or so. I see it and 2616 nearly everyday. Up until last night i haven't seen anything fresh they must be still in storage at AC?
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Post by kmkcheng on Jun 29, 2019 22:23:11 GMT
It has been doing training for atleast the last 2 weeks or so. I see it and 2616 nearly everyday. Up until last night i haven't seen anything fresh they must be still in storage at AC? The BDEs are stored at WJ, not AC
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Post by ADH45258 on Jun 29, 2019 23:08:15 GMT
That'd be a good use of the DEMs, they can't sit in PV forever! The problem could be that DEMs provide insufficient capcaity for the busy 190 which may cope better at peak horus with DELs, off peak DEMs would do for The DEM's at PV are in fact DEL length at 10.9m so would be longer &, in theory, bigger than the current 190 buses. That said, the 190 only needs 11 buses in total and there would be 5 more buses still to allocate. The 316 personally would be the likely place for them but here's a stab in the dark - all 16 go to UX to convert the rest of the U2 and the whole U1 to DEL's leaving no left overs. Or route 143 could be very suitable for these DELs. It has a PVR of 12 (TVR 13 or 14) but requires a further 2 SDs for school journey extras between Brent Cross and Finchley. The 143 route should be able to take longer vehicles as it has occasionally used 64reg DELs from the 112. The 143 is a busy route so could use the extra capacity, but some of the routeing near Finchley Central prevents DDs from being used (hence why the 643 goes direct via East End Road).
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Post by richard on Jun 29, 2019 23:56:06 GMT
Up until last night i haven't seen anything fresh they must be still in storage at AC? The BDEs are stored at WJ, not AC Whoops i didn't relise i put AC instead of WJ
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Post by ServerKing on Jun 30, 2019 1:37:06 GMT
Now with the 190 getting a 2 year extension I wonder if the DEM could make their way to AH to be used on the route to replace the DMs That'd be a good use of the DEMs, they can't sit in PV forever! The problem could be that DEMs provide insufficient capcaity for the busy 190 which may cope better at peak horus with DELs, off peak DEMs would do for They have to do something with DEM buses than let them sit in a yard unloved...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 12:05:35 GMT
For the 209 then wouldn't be able to get around mortlake bus station. I can't think of any obvious problems for the 190 The only POTENTIAL problem I can forsee is the turnaround at the Empress State Building but VWs seem to manage it fine The VWs have a better turning circle due to shorter wheelbase and extra steering locks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 13:00:02 GMT
A 204 driver forgot I was on the bus the other day at Edgware station, by the time I pressed the bell he was already past the alighting point. Instead of stopping in the next safe place he drove straight to the stand, letting me off quite dangerously onto the tarmac once he had parked up, into the path of oncoming buses...
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Post by rif153 on Jun 30, 2019 13:05:23 GMT
A 204 driver forgot I was on the bus the other day at Edgware station, by the time I pressed the bell he was already past the alighting point. Instead of stopping in the next safe place he drove straight to the stand, letting me off quite dangerously onto the tarmac once he had parked up, into the path of oncoming buses... Did he at least help you get back to bus station unharmed? Once this happened to me and a 337 driver forgot I was on his bus and there were no available stand where he could have let me off on to the pavement - they were all occupied by 49s and 337s. He eventually stopped his bus with the offside by the pavement but put his hi-vis jacket on and didn't let me leave his bus until he had seen it was safe to cross which was very nice of him
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 13:13:51 GMT
A 204 driver forgot I was on the bus the other day at Edgware station, by the time I pressed the bell he was already past the alighting point. Instead of stopping in the next safe place he drove straight to the stand, letting me off quite dangerously onto the tarmac once he had parked up, into the path of oncoming buses... But you being an enthusiast could have pressed the bell in time.
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Post by ThinLizzy on Jun 30, 2019 13:33:24 GMT
A 204 driver forgot I was on the bus the other day at Edgware station, by the time I pressed the bell he was already past the alighting point. Instead of stopping in the next safe place he drove straight to the stand, letting me off quite dangerously onto the tarmac once he had parked up, into the path of oncoming buses... it's not that unsafe to cross a bus station, many bus drivers do it every day without getting injured.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jun 30, 2019 13:37:54 GMT
When route 393 gains its correct DEMs in October, I presume current DEMs on secondment from PB will return there. I wonder whether they will then replace ex-First DEM1912-18? Passengers who are now used to longer DEs may not want the shorter buses back.
New buses for routes 209, 214, 232 & 393 will of course see plenty of withdrawals. I hope it is mainly ex-First stock that is withdrawn off lease.
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Post by rif153 on Jun 30, 2019 13:40:48 GMT
Talking of crossing bus stations, I saw some incredibly stupid people cross Hammersmith Bus Station a few days ago. They were looking for the 211 so mindlessly ran across to the 211 on stand and asked the driver to let them on. The driver pointed the stop where the 211 picks up at the bus station, these people then ran back to the safety of the bus station. Yes there is a low speed limit but a 283 driver couldn't see them coming when running out to the 211 because another bus was obstructing his view.
Crossing a bus station is perfectly safe if you know what you're doing you're doing
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Post by rif153 on Jun 30, 2019 13:42:53 GMT
When route 393 gains its correct DEMs in October, I presume current DEMs on secondment from PB will return there. I wonder whether they will then replace ex-First DEM1912-18? Passengers who are now used to longer DEs may not want the shorter buses back. New buses for routes 209, 214, 232 & 393 will of course see plenty of withdrawals. I hope it is mainly ex-First stock that is withdrawn off lease. I don't think the DMs don't have a very long future in London. I anticipate ex-209 and ex-232 DEs pushing them out
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