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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 19:16:28 GMT
I spoke to an engineer about it. He said 'it naturally does that'! My response was 'If it naturally does that, why don't the other SENs naturally do that?'. He couldn't say anything back. Travelled on SEN19 this morning. I agree it's shaking, rattling and rolling all the way to the front of the bus. Nothing natural. They didn't do it when new so something has been altered. Another engineer told me it's probably a knackered driveshaft. I'm not mechanically minded so no idea what that means lol.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 21:14:27 GMT
Travelled on SEN19 this morning. I agree it's shaking, rattling and rolling all the way to the front of the bus. Nothing natural. They didn't do it when new so something has been altered. Another engineer told me it's probably a knackered driveshaft. I'm not mechanically minded so no idea what that means lol. Connects the chassis to the front wheels and in cars if it does go pop then it can cause an unholy shudder throughout the vehicle.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 22, 2019 21:24:30 GMT
I spoke to an engineer about it. He said 'it naturally does that'! My response was 'If it naturally does that, why don't the other SENs naturally do that?'. He couldn't say anything back. Travelled on SEN19 this morning. I agree it's shaking, rattling and rolling all the way to the front of the bus. Nothing natural. They didn't do it when new so something has been altered. This song could have been written to pre-empt your experience. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa4FH9mbDGU
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Post by cl54 on Apr 23, 2019 0:05:32 GMT
Another engineer told me it's probably a knackered driveshaft. I'm not mechanically minded so no idea what that means lol. Connects the chassis to the front wheels and in cars if it does go pop then it can cause an unholy shudder throughout the vehicle. but buses aren't front wheel drive
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Post by M1104 on Apr 23, 2019 0:55:47 GMT
Connects the chassis to the front wheels and in cars if it does go pop then it can cause an unholy shudder throughout the vehicle. but buses aren't front wheel drive It's more accurate to say that most buses aren't front wheel drive.
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Post by YY13VKP on Apr 23, 2019 16:56:08 GMT
I have heard from few 51 drivers at Sidcup it is indeed moving to BX on 22nd June when the 227 moves in. Nothing to do with capacity issues at all it’s due to staffing issues at MB. Yes correct. Drivers that TUPE'd with the 51 from PD will go to BX but the rest will stay at MB Think that's the first I've heard of a route transferring garages due to staffing issues. This baffles me however as the route starts and terminates in two areas within MB's operating area (or former operating area in the case of Woolwich) so I'm not quite sure why they're struggling for staff for the 51. Fleet wise, I would estimate that the original allocation of WVL's and ex First EN's will go to BX with it with theex Abellio EN's which haven't been fully refurbished remaining for the 353 as its contract is due to end next year. I don't see why they would keep the recently refurbished WVL's on the 353 especially when the contract is up for renewal unless it gains a two year extension.
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Post by sid on Apr 23, 2019 17:34:04 GMT
Yes correct. Drivers that TUPE'd with the 51 from PD will go to BX but the rest will stay at MB Think that's the first I've heard of a route transferring garages due to staffing issues. This baffles me however as the route starts and terminates in two areas within MB's operating area (or former operating area in the case of Woolwich) so I'm not quite sure why they're struggling for staff for the 51. Fleet wise, I would estimate that the original allocation of WVL's and ex First EN's will go to BX with it with theex Abellio EN's which haven't been fully refurbished remaining for the 353 as its contract is due to end next year. I don't see why they would keep the recently refurbished WVL's on the 353 especially when the contract is up for renewal unless it gains a two year extension. I think BX is quite popular with out of town staff because of its close proximity to the A2 and there is plenty of spare capacity there at the moment.
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Post by rif153 on Apr 23, 2019 18:37:55 GMT
Think that's the first I've heard of a route transferring garages due to staffing issues. This baffles me however as the route starts and terminates in two areas within MB's operating area (or former operating area in the case of Woolwich) so I'm not quite sure why they're struggling for staff for the 51. Fleet wise, I would estimate that the original allocation of WVL's and ex First EN's will go to BX with it with theex Abellio EN's which haven't been fully refurbished remaining for the 353 as its contract is due to end next year. I don't see why they would keep the recently refurbished WVL's on the 353 especially when the contract is up for renewal unless it gains a two year extension. I think BX is quite popular with out of town staff because of its close proximity to the A2 and there is plenty of spare capacity there at the moment. That phrase makes me shudder lol
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Post by LondonNorthern on Apr 23, 2019 20:06:23 GMT
What will happen to WVL296 - 299 once they finished their stint as refurb covers? Could they go to C, NP or RR to replace WVLs?
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Post by Ice Prxnce on Apr 23, 2019 20:28:29 GMT
What will happen to WVL296 - 299 once they finished their stint as refurb covers? Could they go to C, NP or RR to replace WVLs? They’re allocated to 132 so I imagine they will return to BX. 132 is using some of the ex-486 E400’s as a result of WVL296 - WVL303 moving to AF & NX.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 23, 2019 21:24:13 GMT
What will happen to WVL296 - 299 once they finished their stint as refurb covers? Could they go to C, NP or RR to replace WVLs? They'll return to the 132 once their role as refurb floats has finished.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 23, 2019 21:26:28 GMT
Yes correct. Drivers that TUPE'd with the 51 from PD will go to BX but the rest will stay at MB Think that's the first I've heard of a route transferring garages due to staffing issues. This baffles me however as the route starts and terminates in two areas within MB's operating area (or former operating area in the case of Woolwich) so I'm not quite sure why they're struggling for staff for the 51. Fleet wise, I would estimate that the original allocation of WVL's and ex First EN's will go to BX with it with theex Abellio EN's which haven't been fully refurbished remaining for the 353 as its contract is due to end next year. I don't see why they would keep the recently refurbished WVL's on the 353 especially when the contract is up for renewal unless it gains a two year extension. Years ago, London General was hit by staff shortages and ended up transferring some routes to London Central as a result until the staff shortages eased - the 37 & 196 were two such routes who ended up with London Central on a temporary basis whilst SW had shortages.
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Post by YY13VKP on Apr 23, 2019 21:36:04 GMT
What will happen to WVL296 - 299 once they finished their stint as refurb covers? Could they go to C, NP or RR to replace WVLs? They will not be going to C. Currently the option of getting some spare E400's in to replace WVL238-240 is being explored. WVL366 meanwhile should be staying for the 663.
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Post by redexpress on Apr 23, 2019 21:44:11 GMT
Think that's the first I've heard of a route transferring garages due to staffing issues. This baffles me however as the route starts and terminates in two areas within MB's operating area (or former operating area in the case of Woolwich) so I'm not quite sure why they're struggling for staff for the 51. Fleet wise, I would estimate that the original allocation of WVL's and ex First EN's will go to BX with it with theex Abellio EN's which haven't been fully refurbished remaining for the 353 as its contract is due to end next year. I don't see why they would keep the recently refurbished WVL's on the 353 especially when the contract is up for renewal unless it gains a two year extension. Years ago, London General was hit by staff shortages and ended up transferring some routes to London Central as a result until the staff shortages eased - the 37 & 196 were two such routes who ended up with London Central on a temporary basis whilst SW had shortages. Yep, reallocations due to staff shortages were very common in the late 1990s. Go-Ahead were masters of reallocating routes depending on which garage had the least shortages. The 345 was a favourite route for reallocations - at one time it seemed to change every month between NX, PM, Q and SW, with all four garages involved at the same time at one point.
Arriva also had to reallocate a number of routes in the same manner, which is how we ended up with oddities like SF working the 68 and DX working the 78. And that's before you even start to look at routes that had to be subcontracted or surrendered to other operators because of staff shortages (e.g. 367, 413, C1, C3, G1, S1).
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Post by londonbusboy on Apr 23, 2019 21:44:28 GMT
Yes correct. Drivers that TUPE'd with the 51 from PD will go to BX but the rest will stay at MB Think that's the first I've heard of a route transferring garages due to staffing issues. This baffles me however as the route starts and terminates in two areas within MB's operating area (or former operating area in the case of Woolwich) so I'm not quite sure why they're struggling for staff for the 51. Fleet wise, I would estimate that the original allocation of WVL's and ex First EN's will go to BX with it with theex Abellio EN's which haven't been fully refurbished remaining for the 353 as its contract is due to end next year. I don't see why they would keep the recently refurbished WVL's on the 353 especially when the contract is up for renewal unless it gains a two year extension. I found out a couple of weeks ago but forgot to post it. BX is fully staffed where as MB isnt plus i think we need space for long buses as well.
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