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Post by VPL630 on Jan 28, 2018 16:46:49 GMT
Do the bus station controllers have to randomly observe bus speed in the relevant bus station? Was at Addingtom Village and noticed that on here computer she was filling a “speed gun report form” Yes, it's part of their job to make sure we are sticking to the speed limit within bus stations, curly hair short woman by any chance?
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Post by northken on Jan 28, 2018 16:49:29 GMT
Do the bus station controllers have to randomly observe bus speed in the relevant bus station? Was at Addingtom Village and noticed that on here computer she was filling a “speed gun report form” It's not quite random, they tend to do them at roughly similar times as part of their daily schedule although of course they have to shake it up every so often. They report any drivers 4 mph (I think) over the limit. It's only carried out for a short amount of time before the drivers realise and phone up their mates. As soon as the controllers have finished the buses speed right back up again.
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Post by lwldriver on Jan 28, 2018 17:00:47 GMT
Do the bus station controllers have to randomly observe bus speed in the relevant bus station? Was at Addingtom Village and noticed that on here computer she was filling a “speed gun report form” Yes, it's part of their job to make sure we are sticking to the speed limit within bus stations, curly hair short woman by any chance? Blonde woman, she’s well known for doing the speed checks at AV.
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Post by ibus246 on Jan 28, 2018 17:12:47 GMT
Do the bus station controllers have to randomly observe bus speed in the relevant bus station? Was at Addingtom Village and noticed that on here computer she was filling a “speed gun report form” Yes, it's part of their job to make sure we are sticking to the speed limit within bus stations, curly hair short woman by any chance? She was sitting down but yes had blonde curly hair
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Post by busaholic on Jan 28, 2018 17:39:21 GMT
I was thinking about bus routes that share every single one of there stops with another bus route. I've got the Route 241: Follows the 308 from Stratford City to Stratford, then follows the 262 and 473 until Plaistow High Street, then follows the 325 until Freemasons Road/ Leslie Road, then follows the 147 and N551 until Canning Town Bus Station, then finally follows the 276, 300, 330, 5, N15, 115 until the terminus at Hermit Road. Route 105: Follows the 92, E6, 95 from Greenford Station (Greenford Roundabout for 95) to Greenford Broadway, then follows the E6, 282, 95, E9, E7, N7 until Beechwood Avenue, then follows the 95 all the way to Southall Town Hall, then follows the H32, 482, 120, E5 and 195, follows the 195 all the way until Wentworth Road, then follows the H28 until Cranford Community School, then follows the 111 only to Bath Road and then finally follows the the 111, 81, 222, 423, N9, 140, 285 until Heathrow Central. (the 81 and 423 don't serve Heathrow Central) What other routes can you think of that don't serve a bus stop by themself? Route 262 follows the 366 to Gallions Reach, then the 376 to Beckton Bus Station, then the 300 down Tollgate Road, the 376 to Newham Hospital and then the 473 to Stratford. Route 238 follows the 5 to Newham Town Hall, the 376 to Green Street then the 104 to Stratford Route 5 follows the 115 to Newham Town Hall, the 238 to Barking,the EL2 to Becontree Heath then the 175 to Romford Market Route 205 follows the 25 to Aldgate, the 135 to Old St, the 214 to Kings Cross, the 73 to Warren Street and the 27 to Paddington. Route 453 follows the 53 to Whitehall, the 88 to Great Portland Street and the 205 to Marylebone Roue 176 follows the 24 to Trafalgar Square, the 12 to Camberwell Green, the 185 to Forest Hill, the 197 to Penge. Route 73 follows route 390 to Euston then route 476 to Stoke Newington I get your drift, but I don't believe Whitehall and Westminster Bridge once again get a direct service to Penge, this time by the 176!
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Post by ak121 on Jan 28, 2018 18:09:02 GMT
I've just realised: the 207, 607, 427 and N207 group. The N207 follows the 94 after Shepherd's Bush and then the various routes from Oxford Circus to Holborn. 140: Follows the 182 from terminus to Harrow Bus Station, follows the 114 to South Harrow, follows the 395 until Castle Road, follows the 90 until Dilston Close, follows the 696 and 697 until Willow Tree Lane, follows the E6 until Fairey Corner, follows the 90 again until Harlington Corner and then follows the 111 and 105 until Heathrow Central. H32: Follows 482 from terminus to Hounslow West, follows 81, 203, 222, H98 until Hounslow Bus Station. E8: Shares terminus with various routes, follows 207 and 427 until Boston Manor Road (shares Michael Gaynor Close with E3), follows the 195 until Brentford Half Acre, follows the 235 and 237 until Hounslow Treaty Centre, shares terminus with H22. The Northbound 483 has one stop that it serves individually: Manor Drive The southbound 483 does not serve one individual stop: Follows the 182 from Harrow Bus Station to Sudbury Court Road, follows the 245 until Rosslyn Crescent, follows the 79 and 204 until Park Lane, follows the 83 until Alperton Station, follows the 487 until Cleveley Crescent, follows the 112 until Ealing Broadway Station, follows the 427 and 207 until Half Acre Road, shares Ealing Hospital Terminus with 92 and 282. 254: Follows route N253 for whole route or follows 25 from terminus to Whitechapel Station, follows route 106 to Hackney Central, follows route 253 to Nag's Head 253: Follows route N253 for whole route or follows route 254 from terminus to Nag's Head, follows route 29 to Mornington Crescent, follows route 168 to Euston. 279: Follows route N279 for whole route or follows route 327 from terminus to Turkey Street, follows route 121 to Ponders End, follows route 349 to Edmonton Green, follows route 259 to Manor House terminus. N279: follows route N29 from terminus to Manor House, follows route 279 to Waltham Cross. 259: shares terminus with route 59, follows route 91 to Nag's Head, follows 29 to Manor House, follows 279 to Edmonton Green. 149: Follows route 48 to from London Bridge to Liverpool Street, follows route 242 to Dalston, follows routes 243, 67, 76 to Stamford Hill, follows route 349 to Edmonton Green. 217: from Turnpike Lane Terminus it follows the 231 until Lincoln Road, follows 317 until Waltham Cross. 231: from Turnpike Lane Terminus it follows the 217 until Lincoln Road, follows 307, 121, 313 until Enfield Chase Station. 317: shares Little Park Gardens Terminus with 192, 329 and N29, follows the 307, 121, 313 until Enfield Retail Park, follows 217 until Waltham Cross. 12: from terminus it follows the 197 to Peckham Town Centre, follows the 171 to Elephant & Castle, follows the 453 to Oxford Circus terminus.
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Post by busoccultation on Jan 28, 2018 18:19:19 GMT
101 follows the 366 From Gallions Reach to Beckton Station then 474 to Manor Park then W19 to Blake Hall Road and the 308 to Wanstead.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jan 28, 2018 18:46:30 GMT
I was thinking about bus routes that share every single one of there stops with another bus route. I've got the Route 241: Follows the 308 from Stratford City to Stratford, then follows the 262 and 473 until Plaistow High Street, then follows the 325 until Freemasons Road/ Leslie Road, then follows the 147 and N551 until Canning Town Bus Station, then finally follows the 276, 300, 330, 5, N15, 115 until the terminus at Hermit Road. Route 105: Follows the 92, E6, 95 from Greenford Station (Greenford Roundabout for 95) to Greenford Broadway, then follows the E6, 282, 95, E9, E7, N7 until Beechwood Avenue, then follows the 95 all the way to Southall Town Hall, then follows the H32, 482, 120, E5 and 195, follows the 195 all the way until Wentworth Road, then follows the H28 until Cranford Community School, then follows the 111 only to Bath Road and then finally follows the the 111, 81, 222, 423, N9, 140, 285 until Heathrow Central. (the 81 and 423 don't serve Heathrow Central) What other routes can you think of that don't serve a bus stop by themself? If more drastic cuts become financially necessary, maybe these "unoriginal" routes could be for the chop? Another easy withdrawal would be route 68, duplicating routes 168 & 468. The cross-Elephant connection from Holborn to Camberwell would remain covered by route 171.
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Post by sid on Jan 28, 2018 19:02:20 GMT
I was thinking about bus routes that share every single one of there stops with another bus route. I've got the Route 241: Follows the 308 from Stratford City to Stratford, then follows the 262 and 473 until Plaistow High Street, then follows the 325 until Freemasons Road/ Leslie Road, then follows the 147 and N551 until Canning Town Bus Station, then finally follows the 276, 300, 330, 5, N15, 115 until the terminus at Hermit Road. Route 105: Follows the 92, E6, 95 from Greenford Station (Greenford Roundabout for 95) to Greenford Broadway, then follows the E6, 282, 95, E9, E7, N7 until Beechwood Avenue, then follows the 95 all the way to Southall Town Hall, then follows the H32, 482, 120, E5 and 195, follows the 195 all the way until Wentworth Road, then follows the H28 until Cranford Community School, then follows the 111 only to Bath Road and then finally follows the the 111, 81, 222, 423, N9, 140, 285 until Heathrow Central. (the 81 and 423 don't serve Heathrow Central) What other routes can you think of that don't serve a bus stop by themself? If more drastic cuts become financially necessary, maybe these "unoriginal" routes could be for the chop? Another easy withdrawal would be route 68, duplicating routes 168 & 468. The cross-Elephant connection from Holborn to Camberwell would remain covered by route 171. Yes the 68 could be withdrawn completely, it's a pale shadow of the route it once was, although I think that is unlikely. I could see the overlap with the 468 reduced though with the 68 curtailed at Herne Hill and the 468 at Camberwell Green.
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Post by sid on Jan 28, 2018 19:04:55 GMT
Do the bus station controllers have to randomly observe bus speed in the relevant bus station? Was at Addingtom Village and noticed that on here computer she was filling a “speed gun report form” I've seen a controller at West Croydon with a speed gun on a few occasions.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jan 28, 2018 19:07:11 GMT
If more drastic cuts become financially necessary, maybe these "unoriginal" routes could be for the chop? Another easy withdrawal would be route 68, duplicating routes 168 & 468. The cross-Elephant connection from Holborn to Camberwell would remain covered by route 171. Yes the 68 could be withdrawn completely, it's a pale shadow of the route it once was, although I think that is unlikely. I could see the overlap with the 468 reduced though with the 68 curtailed at Herne Hill and the 468 at Camberwell Green. About route 68 curtained at Herne Hill, it only continued to Norwood after route 40 was effectively replaced in Herne Hill by route 68a (now 468) for operational convenience so that it could remain at N. Likewise, there are so many alternative routes linking Camberwell with Elephant. Where the plot thickens is that if route 68 Euston - West Norwood were withdrawn, route 468 would probably be renumbered back to 68.
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Post by rhys on Jan 28, 2018 19:10:59 GMT
If more drastic cuts become financially necessary, maybe these "unoriginal" routes could be for the chop? Another easy withdrawal would be route 68, duplicating routes 168 & 468. The cross-Elephant connection from Holborn to Camberwell would remain covered by route 171. Yes the 68 could be withdrawn completely, it's a pale shadow of the route it once was, although I think that is unlikely. I could see the overlap with the 468 reduced though with the 68 curtailed at Herne Hill and the 468 at Camberwell Green. Someone suggested something similar last week. Once again, I strongly disagree with your point, being someone who lives along both routes. The 68 and 468 are very busy during peak hours, especially between Camberwell and Norwood, where both routes serve a lot of schools. Taking away one link would only put a great strain on the other. Besides, as I said before. Herne Hill is not an adequate place to have both the 68 and 201 terminating there simulateonously. The current stand, on Dulwich Road is on a rather narrow road, in which, the stand can often block the northbound traffic during busy times. Plus the stand can only hold two buses, which often is occupied by two 201s.
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Post by sid on Jan 28, 2018 19:11:45 GMT
Yes the 68 could be withdrawn completely, it's a pale shadow of the route it once was, although I think that is unlikely. I could see the overlap with the 468 reduced though with the 68 curtailed at Herne Hill and the 468 at Camberwell Green. About route 68 curtained at Herne Hill, it only continued to Norwood after route 40 was effectively replaced in Herne Hill by route 68a (now 468) for operational convenience so that it could remain at N. Likewise, there are so many alternative routes linking Camberwell with Elephant. Where the plot thickens is that if route 68 Euston - West Norwood were withdrawn, route 468 would probably be renumbered back to 68. Yes I remember the original plan was to curtail the 68 at Herne Hill, I think operational convenience is perhaps an extravagance that can no longer be afforded. Yes it wouldn't surprise me if TfL did renumber the 468 back to 68 just to cause mass confusion.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jan 28, 2018 19:14:45 GMT
Yes the 68 could be withdrawn completely, it's a pale shadow of the route it once was, although I think that is unlikely. I could see the overlap with the 468 reduced though with the 68 curtailed at Herne Hill and the 468 at Camberwell Green. Someone suggested something similar last week. Once again, I strongly disagree with your point, being someone who lives along both routes. The 68 and 468 are very busy during peak hours, especially between Camberwell and Norwood, where both routes serve a lot of schools. Taking away one link would only put a great strain on the other. Besides, as I said before. Herne Hill is not an adequate place to have both the 68 and 201 terminating there simulateonously. The current stand, on Dulwich Road is on a rather narrow road, in which, the stand can often block the northbound traffic during busy times. Plus the stand can only hold two buses, which often is occupied by two 201s. Even here there are solutions if a bit far-fetched. Extend route 201 to Peckham, extend route 337 to Clapham Common or Brixton, and withdraw route 37.
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Post by sid on Jan 28, 2018 19:16:08 GMT
Yes the 68 could be withdrawn completely, it's a pale shadow of the route it once was, although I think that is unlikely. I could see the overlap with the 468 reduced though with the 68 curtailed at Herne Hill and the 468 at Camberwell Green. Someone suggested something similar last week. Once again, I strongly disagree with your point, being someone who lives along both routes. The 68 and 468 are very busy during peak hours, especially between Camberwell and Norwood, where both routes serve a lot of schools. Taking away one link would only put a great strain on the other. Besides, as I said before. Herne Hill is not an adequate place to have both the 68 and 201 terminating there simulateonously. The current stand, on Dulwich Road is on a rather narrow road, in which, the stand can often block the northbound traffic during busy times. Plus the stand can only hold two buses, which often is occupied by two 201s. I appreciate stand space may be a problem but if cuts continue it's going to be difficult to justify both the 68 and 468 south of Herne Hill.
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