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Post by LT 20181 on Jul 22, 2019 19:47:15 GMT
I’ve been wanting to share this for some time. There are some 223s and H17s (both operated by RATP with 10.9m MMCs) that have trouble turning out of Montrose Crescent, Station Grove/Copland Road and Union Road (the roads where their Wembley Central terminus is). This is because of parked cars (some are parked badly at times), especially towards the end of Union Road. This seems to be a bigger problem on Thursday where it is a religious day in Hinduism, and this means that there are many people visiting the two temples that are both at the end of Union Road where the 223s & H17 turn out of to head back to Harrow, and there Cars park on both sides of that road (sometimes they park badly) buses tend to get stuck or have small accidents. I speak from experience as a few months ago we had an incident with DLE 30291 on the H17 on Union Road where the gap was so tight, the bus snapped off our car’s wing mirror. Yeah.. not nice.. Also I’ve noticed how some 223s & H17s go down Copland Road instead of Station Grove, and turning right out of Copland Road onto Union Road is pretty sharp, which is another reason why buses get stuck. They have to do some reversing to get unstuck. In a DE or DEM, it would be fine but MMC DLEs do struggle with this turn as they’re longer and wider. I do hope something is done about this/these issue(s).
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Post by 6HP502C on Jul 22, 2019 19:51:31 GMT
I’ve been wanting to share this for some time. There are some 223s and H17s (both operated by RATP with 10.9m MMCs) that have trouble turning out of Montrose Crescent, Station Grove/Copland Road and Union Road (the roads where their Wembley Central terminus is). This is because of parked cars (some are parked badly at times), especially towards the end of Union Road. This seems to be a bigger problem on Thursday where it is a religious day in Hinduism, and this means that there are many people visiting the two temples that are both at the end of Union Road where the 223s & H17 turn out of to head back to Harrow, and there Cars park on both sides of that road (sometimes they park badly) buses tend to get stuck or have small accidents. I speak from experience as a few months ago we had an incident with DLE 30291 on the H17 on Union Road where the gap was so tight, the bus snapped off our car’s wing mirror. Yeah.. not nice.. Also I’ve noticed how some 223s & H17s go down Copland Road instead of Station Grove, and turning right out of Copland Road onto Union Road is pretty sharp, which is another reason why buses get stuck. They have to do some reversing to get unstuck. In a DE or DEM, it would be fine but MMC DLEs do struggle with this turn as they’re longer and wider. I do hope something is done about this/these issue(s). The best thing to do would be to feed back to TfL through the website. I hope you were compensated for the damage to your vehicle.
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Post by londonbuschannel on Jul 22, 2019 20:03:46 GMT
How rare is a bandit Wright Pulsar 2 on the 724? Spotted one at Croxley Green Today.
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Post by LT 20181 on Jul 22, 2019 21:05:35 GMT
I’ve been wanting to share this for some time. There are some 223s and H17s (both operated by RATP with 10.9m MMCs) that have trouble turning out of Montrose Crescent, Station Grove/Copland Road and Union Road (the roads where their Wembley Central terminus is). This is because of parked cars (some are parked badly at times), especially towards the end of Union Road. This seems to be a bigger problem on Thursday where it is a religious day in Hinduism, and this means that there are many people visiting the two temples that are both at the end of Union Road where the 223s & H17 turn out of to head back to Harrow, and there Cars park on both sides of that road (sometimes they park badly) buses tend to get stuck or have small accidents. I speak from experience as a few months ago we had an incident with DLE 30291 on the H17 on Union Road where the gap was so tight, the bus snapped off our car’s wing mirror. Yeah.. not nice.. Also I’ve noticed how some 223s & H17s go down Copland Road instead of Station Grove, and turning right out of Copland Road onto Union Road is pretty sharp, which is another reason why buses get stuck. They have to do some reversing to get unstuck. In a DE or DEM, it would be fine but MMC DLEs do struggle with this turn as they’re longer and wider. I do hope something is done about this/these issue(s). The best thing to do would be to feed back to TfL through the website. I hope you were compensated for the damage to your vehicle. We were compensated, but I really do believe something should be done about car parking on that road to allow buses to pass through without getting stuck. Maybe painting double yellow lines on one side of the road to free space. Might not always work, but still could be useful.
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Post by Frenzie on Jul 23, 2019 11:02:46 GMT
Hounslow Council has recently introduced 20 speed limits on part of the N9 route and a bit of the 111 route. The 111 drivers seem to ignore it and continue along at 30 mph, but the N9 drivers follow it aggressively, and as a result end up running about 6 minutes late. They also do this thing where they put their put on the accelerator and then take it off repeatedly which makes me feel sick.
So my question is are 20 speed limits still necessary at night or at all? They don’t seem to be followed during the day, and at night there seems to be no point in enforcing them. Why are councils adamant about slowing down vehicles which can’t be good for the environment?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 13:04:39 GMT
Where is the best place to sit on an SD only route (358 between Beckenham Road and Crystal Palace)?
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Post by vjaska on Jul 23, 2019 13:21:09 GMT
Hounslow Council has recently introduced 20 speed limits on part of the N9 route and a bit of the 111 route. The 111 drivers seem to ignore it and continue along at 30 mph, but the N9 drivers follow it aggressively, and as a result end up running about 6 minutes late. They also do this thing where they put their put on the accelerator and then take it off repeatedly which makes me feel sick. So my question is are 20 speed limits still necessary at night or at all? They don’t seem to be followed during the day, and at night there seems to be no point in enforcing them. Why are councils adamant about slowing down vehicles which can’t be good for the environment? 20mph are only personally necessary on roads that are narrow and have many hazards such as small side roads. However, limits still must be followed no matter how ridiculous they are or what time of the day it is and these borough wide 20mph limits are extremely ridiculous and ill thought out.
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 23, 2019 14:00:11 GMT
Where is the best place to sit on an SD only route (358 between Beckenham Road and Crystal Palace)? A seat is preferable to the floor
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Post by bookd on Jul 23, 2019 14:26:20 GMT
I understand that Richmond are planning a borough wide 20 limit except for a couple of roads which belong to TfL. At the Times when it makes sense traffic does not permit more than 20 anyway but late at night it is pointless.
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Post by ronnie on Jul 23, 2019 20:02:03 GMT
Hounslow Council has recently introduced 20 speed limits on part of the N9 route and a bit of the 111 route. The 111 drivers seem to ignore it and continue along at 30 mph, but the N9 drivers follow it aggressively, and as a result end up running about 6 minutes late. They also do this thing where they put their put on the accelerator and then take it off repeatedly which makes me feel sick. So my question is are 20 speed limits still necessary at night or at all? They don’t seem to be followed during the day, and at night there seems to be no point in enforcing them. Why are councils adamant about slowing down vehicles which can’t be good for the environment? 20mph are only personally necessary on roads that are narrow and have many hazards such as small side roads. However, limits still must be followed no matter how ridiculous they are or what time of the day it is and these borough wide 20mph limits are extremely ridiculous and ill thought out. It ends up being pointless as pretty much no one follows it if there are no cameras. In the IOD where everything is 20 I get honked at repeatedly if i drive at 20mph (even buses don’t follow the limit in most cases)
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Post by vjaska on Jul 23, 2019 21:52:27 GMT
20mph are only personally necessary on roads that are narrow and have many hazards such as small side roads. However, limits still must be followed no matter how ridiculous they are or what time of the day it is and these borough wide 20mph limits are extremely ridiculous and ill thought out. It ends up being pointless as pretty much no one follows it if there are no cameras. In the IOD where everything is 20 I get honked at repeatedly if i drive at 20mph (even buses don’t follow the limit in most cases) Even on roads with cameras, they don't follow it so I don't think that has much to do with it personally. For me, the only way to solve it is through education and improving behaviour on the road, maybe even looking at driving tests and how they can be improved. Putting cameras, speed humps and silly limits in like borough wide 20mph zones does nothing but worsen the situation - cars get damaged by speed humps due to the wear & tear of them whilst 20mph speed limits increase pollution.
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Post by Frenzie on Jul 23, 2019 23:14:22 GMT
It ends up being pointless as pretty much no one follows it if there are no cameras. In the IOD where everything is 20 I get honked at repeatedly if i drive at 20mph (even buses don’t follow the limit in most cases) Even on roads with cameras, they don't follow it so I don't think that has much to do with it personally. For me, the only way to solve it is through education and improving behaviour on the road, maybe even looking at driving tests and how they can be improved. Putting cameras, speed humps and silly limits in like borough wide 20mph zones does nothing but worsen the situation - cars get damaged by speed humps due to the wear & tear of them whilst 20mph speed limits increase pollution. The thing is, I still don’t know who the 20 limits are for.
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Post by ronnie on Jul 23, 2019 23:18:55 GMT
Even on roads with cameras, they don't follow it so I don't think that has much to do with it personally. For me, the only way to solve it is through education and improving behaviour on the road, maybe even looking at driving tests and how they can be improved. Putting cameras, speed humps and silly limits in like borough wide 20mph zones does nothing but worsen the situation - cars get damaged by speed humps due to the wear & tear of them whilst 20mph speed limits increase pollution. The thing is, I still don’t know who the 20 limits are for. It should ideally only be in residential areas / built up areas / near schools or hospitals.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 23, 2019 23:46:24 GMT
The thing is, I still don’t know who the 20 limits are for. It should ideally only be in residential areas / built up areas / near schools or hospitals. So basically, roughly 90% of London by your definition as the vast majority of London is one giant built up area. Most schools already have warning signs which are triangular and depict a kid & parent whilst some also contain a speed table.
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Post by rugbyref on Jul 24, 2019 8:34:30 GMT
The 20 limits are for the politicians. It was always a requirement to temper speed to the road conditions, so passing a school at throwing out time, or a pub at closing time for that matter, meant being prepared for someone to step, run, fall into the road in front of you.
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