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Post by vjaska on May 5, 2019 21:08:18 GMT
Shortened to Liverpool St in June then extended in October to London Bridge. Not sure what the new PVR will be in October. If TFL are looking to reduce costs then some LTs could make a very short trip from one side of Ash Grove garage to the other to facilitate the increases to the 26 and 388. It would probably only be a partial conversion otherwise there would be E400Cities sitting at HK and seeing little usage which would be somewhat ironic after CT Plus's Minus' double decker woes I don't think they'll be an increase to the 388 - others have said the route is to be cut back to Liverpool Street and then extended to London Bridge further down the line. It will either have the same PVR or lower and if it's the latter, then that's where the 26's extra buses will come from. I don't see CT Plus ever operating LT's in all honesty.
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Post by wirewiper on May 6, 2019 8:04:00 GMT
If TFL are looking to reduce costs then some LTs could make a very short trip from one side of Ash Grove garage to the other to facilitate the increases to the 26 and 388. It would probably only be a partial conversion otherwise there would be E400Cities sitting at HK and seeing little usage which would be somewhat ironic after CT Plus's Minus' double decker woes I don't think they'll be an increase to the 388 - others have said the route is to be cut back to Liverpool Street and then extended to London Bridge further down the line. It will either have the same PVR or lower and if it's the latter, then that's where the 26's extra buses will come from. I don't see CT Plus ever operating LT's in all honesty. The original plan was for the 388 to be shortened to Liverpool Street, this would release six E400 Citys, four for the 26 frequency increase and two to top up the 20. I expect that what will happen now is that CT Plus will acquire 2-4 redundant E400H MMCs for the 388 extension to London Bridge - as it happens, Stagecoach have three going off-lease at the moment. If these are 16-reg they may be regarded "nominally" as the extras for route 26. This would enable two 66-reg E400 Citys to move to AW for the 20 as originally intended whilst still leaving enough for the 388 in its revised form.
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Post by redbus on May 6, 2019 17:40:39 GMT
Are CT Plus doing any rail replacement work this weekend? Yesterday (Sunday) I saw a CT Plus bus (I think it was 2412) seemingly lost reversing out of a cul-de-sac into Abbey Road in NW London. It had rail replacement on a blind, but I have no idea whether it was on the way to do some rail replacement work or not, all I know is that there are no CT Plus bus routes in the vicinity!
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on May 7, 2019 6:54:49 GMT
Are CT Plus doing any rail replacement work this weekend? Yesterday (Sunday) I saw a CT Plus bus (I think it was 2412) seemingly lost reversing out of a cul-de-sac into Abbey Road in NW London. It had rail replacement on a blind, but I have no idea whether it was on the way to do some rail replacement work or not, all I know is that there are no CT Plus bus routes in the vicinity! Yes, they did cover Thameslink between St Pancras - Mill Hill Broadway, then up to West Hampstead when part of the line reopened after about 8-9am. I did that route on sunday, and northbound my driver accidentally took a left instead of right, and we ended up on Euston Road! We then used Marylebone station to get back on track xD Some nice decker mileage, including 46's arched bridge that deroofed a diverted 24, bit of 393 and a lot of the C11.
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Post by 6HP502C on May 7, 2019 12:02:57 GMT
I was at West Hampstead yesterday waiting for the 2101 replacement service to Kentish Town which didn't turn up. It's a half hourly service which only serves 3 stops - one wonders why is it so difficult for rail replacement buses to be supplied for this line!
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Post by foxhat on May 7, 2019 12:20:13 GMT
Are CT Plus doing any rail replacement work this weekend? Yesterday (Sunday) I saw a CT Plus bus (I think it was 2412) seemingly lost reversing out of a cul-de-sac into Abbey Road in NW London. It had rail replacement on a blind, but I have no idea whether it was on the way to do some rail replacement work or not, all I know is that there are no CT Plus bus routes in the vicinity! Yes, they did cover Thameslink between St Pancras - Mill Hill Broadway, then up to West Hampstead when part of the line reopened after about 8-9am. I did that route on sunday, and northbound my driver accidentally took a left instead of right, and we ended up on Euston Road! We then used Marylebone station to get back on track xD Some nice decker mileage, including 46's arched bridge that deroofed a diverted 24, bit of 393 and a lot of the C11. TfL permit deckers under the bridge westbound only, but this is banned eastbound. Can only suspect that this doesn't apply for non-TfL routes.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 23:40:47 GMT
Glad to see 2544 (YX19ORV) is back to serving the 20.
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Post by snoggle on May 16, 2019 16:01:11 GMT
LOTS confirmed that 2 extra E40Hs are on order to deal with the gap in the number of double deckers needed to run the 20, 26 and 388 when all the changes have taken place.
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Post by ADH45258 on May 16, 2019 17:23:40 GMT
LOTS confirmed that 2 extra E40Hs are on order to deal with the gap in the number of double deckers needed to run the 20, 26 and 388 when all the changes have taken place. I expect these will end up allocated to the 20, replacing the 2 loaned E40Ds from Stagecoach. Keeps all Ultracap E40Hs at AW. The 388's frequency cut and rerouting should therefore cover the 26's frequency increase.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2019 17:25:29 GMT
LOTS confirmed that 2 extra E40Hs are on order to deal with the gap in the number of double deckers needed to run the 20, 26 and 388 when all the changes have taken place. I expect these will end up allocated to the 20, replacing the 2 loaned E40Ds from Stagecoach. Keeps all Ultracap E40Hs at AW. The 388's frequency cut and rerouting should therefore cover the 26's frequency increase. New buses or existing?
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Post by wirewiper on May 16, 2019 18:42:31 GMT
LOTS confirmed that 2 extra E40Hs are on order to deal with the gap in the number of double deckers needed to run the 20, 26 and 388 when all the changes have taken place. My speculation about CT Plus acquiring 2-3 redundant E400 MMCs off someone else was wide of the mark then. I'm a big boy, I can cope. ( I got the 209 going straight in-and-out at Putney Bridge Station right though).
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2019 19:28:18 GMT
I expect these will end up allocated to the 20, replacing the 2 loaned E40Ds from Stagecoach. Keeps all Ultracap E40Hs at AW. The 388's frequency cut and rerouting should therefore cover the 26's frequency increase. New buses or existing As stated "on order" so New
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 16, 2019 20:20:51 GMT
LOTS confirmed that 2 extra E40Hs are on order to deal with the gap in the number of double deckers needed to run the 20, 26 and 388 when all the changes have taken place. My speculation about CT Plus acquiring 2-3 redundant E400 MMCs off someone else was wide of the mark then. I'm a big boy, I can cope. ( I got the 209 going straight in-and-out at Putney Bridge Station right though). awwww, group hug
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Post by rj131 on May 16, 2019 20:45:01 GMT
LOTS confirmed that 2 extra E40Hs are on order to deal with the gap in the number of double deckers needed to run the 20, 26 and 388 when all the changes have taken place. I expect these will end up allocated to the 20, replacing the 2 loaned E40Ds from Stagecoach. Keeps all Ultracap E40Hs at AW. The 388's frequency cut and rerouting should therefore cover the 26's frequency increase. Is the 388 still getting a frequency cut to 5bph after its extension to London Bridge? It had all gone a bit quiet on that front. For there to only be two on order though, the 388 will have to donate some of its Cities to the 26 for its increase, but you never know. There may be more on order for the future but also something tells me the section from LS to E&C is longer than what the section from LS to London Bridge will be in November, so just having a shorter section may release enough Cities from the 388 to satisfy the 26’s increase, depends how much the increase will be. Also the 20’s Cities aren’t actually Ultracaps, they’re regular battery ones like the 26’s and 388’s. However what you’re referring to I find it quite likely the 2 on order will be ultracap as I believe the regular battery ones are out of production now? EDIT: this document here consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/central-london/user_uploads/clbsr-implementation-dates.pdf suggests the 388 will *not* be getting a frequency decrease after all. It mentions nothing of a frequency reduction (or ‘change’ as the document puts it) unlike the 242. They would also probably want it to remain 6bph as that’s the 48’s frequency, so they can justify in their minds withdrawing it (slight speculation that last sentence).
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2019 20:50:31 GMT
As stated "on order" so New
Whoops.
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