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Post by rif153 on Jul 20, 2019 18:31:40 GMT
I've had a nice fast ride on VH45135 on the 65. I actually quite like the new 19 plate VHs You mean VH45315*? 45135 is a smiley G3 for the 285 Indeed I do, thanks for correcting
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Post by sleckdeck on Jul 20, 2019 21:03:36 GMT
Is LF19 FWG a speed limited bus? Had a very fast run on it in Kew and it definitely reached over 40mph whereas the journey before (16 reg) was a lot slower in the same area. I think this VH is one of the best buses on the 65 currently No it’s unlimited. All of the new batch are don’t appear to have any speed limiters, but the 16 reg are limited to 40 apparently. VH45314 is the best bus on the 65 in my opinion 😉. So quick and the air cooling actually works. Definitely not speed limited, today on YT09 BNN the bus didn't go super fast all though did get some thrash for the relatively short journey but a minute later a VH did catch up which was 2019; the SP wasn't busy but wasn't empty and the driver was caring for passengers to see if they were waiting for the 65 or not. YT09 BNN doesn't seem to have such a loud cooling fan anymore, might not be a super hot bus as today it didn't have one; other buses such as YT59 PBO is a cooling machine
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Post by YY13VKP on Jul 20, 2019 21:06:24 GMT
No it’s unlimited. All of the new batch are don’t appear to have any speed limiters, but the 16 reg are limited to 40 apparently. VH45314 is the best bus on the 65 in my opinion 😉. So quick and the air cooling actually works. Is that LF19 FWG? I've only been on 2 brand new VH'S, this one and LF19 FWA (although I was upstairs w friends so I didn't pay attention). The 16 reg might be limited, the cooling fan did work on LJ16 EVF LF19FWG is VH45315
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Post by sleckdeck on Jul 20, 2019 21:09:04 GMT
Is that LF19 FWG? I've only been on 2 brand new VH'S, this one and LF19 FWA (although I was upstairs w friends so I didn't pay attention). The 16 reg might be limited, the cooling fan did work on LJ16 EVF LF19FWG is VH45315 Thanks for correcting I did change the post as I checked.
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Post by Frenzie on Jul 20, 2019 21:24:30 GMT
No it’s unlimited. All of the new batch are don’t appear to have any speed limiters, but the 16 reg are limited to 40 apparently. VH45314 is the best bus on the 65 in my opinion 😉. So quick and the air cooling actually works. Definitely not speed limited, today on YT09 BNN the bus didn't go super fast all though did get some thrash for the relatively short journey but a minute later a VH did catch up which was 2019; the SP wasn't busy but wasn't empty and the driver was caring for passengers to see if they were waiting for the 65 or not. YT09 BNN doesn't seem to have such a loud cooling fan anymore, might not be a super hot bus as today it didn't have one; other buses such as YT59 PBO is a cooling machine Most of the FW SPs are limited to 37 mph, so don’t expect too much from them. The Volvos really suit the route in my opinion, although I’m sure it will change once the intelligent speed assistance thing gets rolled out. I’m pretty sure the VHs on the H91 and 285 have it and it’s dreadful (or the drivers have been scared into driving cautiously).
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Post by sleckdeck on Jul 20, 2019 21:30:34 GMT
Definitely not speed limited, today on YT09 BNN the bus didn't go super fast all though did get some thrash for the relatively short journey but a minute later a VH did catch up which was 2019; the SP wasn't busy but wasn't empty and the driver was caring for passengers to see if they were waiting for the 65 or not. YT09 BNN doesn't seem to have such a loud cooling fan anymore, might not be a super hot bus as today it didn't have one; other buses such as YT59 PBO is a cooling machine Most of the FW SPs are limited to 37 mph, so don’t expect too much from them. The Volvos really suit the route in my opinion, although I’m sure it will change once the intelligent speed assistance thing gets rolled out. I’m pretty sure the VHs on the H91 and 285 have it and it’s dreadful (or the drivers have been scared into driving cautiously). Aren't those the 2010 SP'S, I have had a 59 reg SP go crazy from Kingston to Brentford but it may have been limited to 37mph buy it just didn't feel like it; the 65 is very good with Volvo's and I wish the 267 got them. I don't think the older Volvo's have them; but the speed limiters would affect the operator as the drivers on that route (majority) thrash the buses to borderline speed
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 21:33:25 GMT
No it’s unlimited. All of the new batch are don’t appear to have any speed limiters, but the 16 reg are limited to 40 apparently. VH45314 is the best bus on the 65 in my opinion 😉. So quick and the air cooling actually works. On the contrary to that I’ve never had a G3 where the air cooling doesn’t work. As much as I think the G3 is a rubbish bus (mainly in terms of quality etc) the air cooling is without doubt one of few brilliant thing about it. I like RATP interior on these buses. The grey panels and seat coverings, and yes, on all of them I’ve been on the cooling system is very good.
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Post by sleckdeck on Jul 20, 2019 21:36:01 GMT
Most of the FW SPs are limited to 37 mph, so don’t expect too much from them. The Volvos really suit the route in my opinion, although I’m sure it will change once the intelligent speed assistance thing gets rolled out. I’m pretty sure the VHs on the H91 and 285 have it and it’s dreadful (or the drivers have been scared into driving cautiously). Aren't those the 2010 SP'S, I have had a 59 reg SP go crazy from Kingston to Brentford but it may have been limited to 37mph buy it just didn't feel like it; the 65 is very good with Volvo's and I wish the 267 got them. I don't think the older Volvo's have them; but the speed limiters would affect the operator as the drivers on that route (majority) thrash the buses to borderline speed Also it definitely couldn't go past 37mph until after Victoria Gate which is where I got off at
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Post by Frenzie on Jul 20, 2019 21:46:26 GMT
Most of the FW SPs are limited to 37 mph, so don’t expect too much from them. The Volvos really suit the route in my opinion, although I’m sure it will change once the intelligent speed assistance thing gets rolled out. I’m pretty sure the VHs on the H91 and 285 have it and it’s dreadful (or the drivers have been scared into driving cautiously). Aren't those the 2010 SP'S, I have had a 59 reg SP go crazy from Kingston to Brentford but it may have been limited to 37mph buy it just didn't feel like it; the 65 is very good with Volvo's and I wish the 267 got them. I don't think the older Volvo's have them; but the speed limiters would affect the operator as the drivers on that route (majority) thrash the buses to borderline speed A bit hit and miss with the 10 reg SPs. Some are limited to 37 (I know that SP40165, 167 and 170 are). Others can go way up to 58 mph. Can feel fast on the Kew stretch of the route, but the section on Petersham Road between The Dysart and Nightingale Lane is where I’ve noticed most stop accelerating at 35-37 mph. (I spend a lot of time on this route 😂). Do you find the slow acceleration on the SPs frustrating? Sometimes they seem as though they’re struggling.
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Post by sleckdeck on Jul 20, 2019 22:43:35 GMT
Aren't those the 2010 SP'S, I have had a 59 reg SP go crazy from Kingston to Brentford but it may have been limited to 37mph buy it just didn't feel like it; the 65 is very good with Volvo's and I wish the 267 got them. I don't think the older Volvo's have them; but the speed limiters would affect the operator as the drivers on that route (majority) thrash the buses to borderline speed A bit hit and miss with the 10 reg SPs. Some are limited to 37 (I know that SP40165, 167 and 170 are). Others can go way up to 58 mph. Can feel fast on the Kew stretch of the route, but the section on Petersham Road between The Dysart and Nightingale Lane is where I’ve noticed most stop accelerating at 35-37 mph. (I spend a lot of time on this route 😂). Do you find the slow acceleration on the SPs frustrating? Sometimes they seem as though they’re struggling. Well it depends as some SP'S can go quite fast even in the Kingston one way system; it depends on the driver to be fair. As on YT09 BNN when there was empty road and no one in the distance there was chance taken to drive fast but it could be limited. It can get annoying and I did have this problem with a snail driver on YT59 SFZ (3 65s over took us, including 1 VH making 4 65s, the bus terminated early too just north of where I live). however YT59 SFZ is one of the best in my opinion as I've had an amazing run from Brentford to Kingston is just 40 minutes (despite diversion to Chiswick roundabout) so it depends on drivers.
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Post by snowman on Jul 21, 2019 7:52:30 GMT
Last week of RATP operating 81 With the school bus fleet now generally out of use for 6 weeks will be interesting to see what gets moved and when
I assume the 15 ADEs from 81 will get refurb and euroVI upgrade before being used on 266 in December, But unless they are not in service for 4 months, where might they get used in interim Could they be used on other AV routes releasing a pool of SPs for euroVI upgrades
Be rather ironic if the euroV ADEs are parked whilst Epsom continues to use euroIV versions on the new 406 contract
But likely Epsom will continue with 2007 buses to avoid changing 406 fleet, then changing again when 266 starts, then changing again once the long term buses become available when the electrics for 94 enter service
Eventually (by about March-April 2020) the 2007 ADEs should have gone, and some SPs will have also gone. I would guess the 2006 SPs will also leave (as too old to get euroVI upgrades)
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Post by rif153 on Jul 21, 2019 7:52:46 GMT
Aren't those the 2010 SP'S, I have had a 59 reg SP go crazy from Kingston to Brentford but it may have been limited to 37mph buy it just didn't feel like it; the 65 is very good with Volvo's and I wish the 267 got them. I don't think the older Volvo's have them; but the speed limiters would affect the operator as the drivers on that route (majority) thrash the buses to borderline speed A bit hit and miss with the 10 reg SPs. Some are limited to 37 (I know that SP40165, 167 and 170 are). Others can go way up to 58 mph. Can feel fast on the Kew stretch of the route, but the section on Petersham Road between The Dysart and Nightingale Lane is where I’ve noticed most stop accelerating at 35-37 mph. (I spend a lot of time on this route 😂). Do you find the slow acceleration on the SPs frustrating? Sometimes they seem as though they’re struggling. Some of the SPs which are really sluggish are horrible to use, when I’ve taken one from Ealing to Richmond I’ve been falling asleep because of the painfully slow acceleration but obviously SPs vary, the slow acceleration is bearable on some of them
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Post by sleckdeck on Jul 21, 2019 8:16:45 GMT
A bit hit and miss with the 10 reg SPs. Some are limited to 37 (I know that SP40165, 167 and 170 are). Others can go way up to 58 mph. Can feel fast on the Kew stretch of the route, but the section on Petersham Road between The Dysart and Nightingale Lane is where I’ve noticed most stop accelerating at 35-37 mph. (I spend a lot of time on this route 😂). Do you find the slow acceleration on the SPs frustrating? Sometimes they seem as though they’re struggling. Some of the SPs which are really sluggish are horrible to use, when I’ve taken one from Ealing to Richmond I’ve been falling asleep because of the painfully slow acceleration but obviously SPs vary, the slow acceleration is bearable on some of them The youngest batch of SP'S on the 65 (YT59 P) are the most sleepy buses you'll ever be on excluding YT59 PBO
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Post by Nathan on Jul 21, 2019 9:55:28 GMT
Last week of RATP operating 81 With the school bus fleet now generally out of use for 6 weeks will be interesting to see what gets moved and when I assume the 15 ADEs from 81 will get refurb and euroVI upgrade before being used on 266 in December, But unless they are not in service for 4 months, where might they get used in interim Could they be used on other AV routes releasing a pool of SPs for euroVI upgrades Be rather ironic if the euroV ADEs are parked whilst Epsom continues to use euroIV versions on the new 406 contract But likely Epsom will continue with 2007 buses to avoid changing 406 fleet, then changing again when 266 starts, then changing again once the long term buses become available when the electrics for 94 enter service Eventually (by about March-April 2020) the 2007 ADEs should have gone, and some SPs will have also gone. I would guess the 2006 SPs will also leave (as too old to get euroVI upgrades) What's the plan for the 406? Obviously it didn't get it's intended SPs from the 65 during it's retention and probably never will. So I'm guessing ADEs from the 81 will eventually end up on the route by the timeframe you suggested?
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Post by vjaska on Jul 21, 2019 11:11:07 GMT
Last week of RATP operating 81 With the school bus fleet now generally out of use for 6 weeks will be interesting to see what gets moved and when I assume the 15 ADEs from 81 will get refurb and euroVI upgrade before being used on 266 in December, But unless they are not in service for 4 months, where might they get used in interim Could they be used on other AV routes releasing a pool of SPs for euroVI upgrades Be rather ironic if the euroV ADEs are parked whilst Epsom continues to use euroIV versions on the new 406 contract But likely Epsom will continue with 2007 buses to avoid changing 406 fleet, then changing again when 266 starts, then changing again once the long term buses become available when the electrics for 94 enter service Eventually (by about March-April 2020) the 2007 ADEs should have gone, and some SPs will have also gone. I would guess the 2006 SPs will also leave (as too old to get euroVI upgrades) What's the plan for the 406? Obviously it didn't get it's intended SPs from the 65 during it's retention and probably never will. So I'm guessing ADEs from the 81 will eventually end up on the route by the timeframe you suggested? I don’t think that will happen as the 266 is to use the 81’s ADE’s for its new contract. I’m not sure what the 406 will end up with but if I was to guess, some SP’s eventually become spare and are moved to the 406.
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