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Post by TA1 on Mar 10, 2013 7:56:43 GMT
So because of 25 arrests the area is suddenly getting better, how do you know the area isn't already decent. London is a diverse and multicultural city, we have some suburbs where their a high poverty rate, others where degenerates are rich and live in expensive homes. Just because the news reports the major incidents doesn't go without saying that incidents of brutal nature take place elsewhere.
You're goaded by the media and in this day and age irregardless of your age, it's sad as your views are being alienated by a media company whom only write specific information rarely the full story, to dramatise the issue to increase potential readers.
Do some research, Hackney for example is a mixed area, their maybe a high crime rate in the area that's according to policie statistics. The borough is home to a lot of council housing but in Dalston it's becoming the new trendy and hype place to live and be; similar to Shoreditch.
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Post by vjaska on Mar 10, 2013 15:09:34 GMT
You don't need crime statistics to work out Hackney has major problems regardless of how many yuppies are flooding into the place trying to make more trendy & upmarket.
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Post by IanF on Mar 10, 2013 15:17:27 GMT
Hackney at night is far from safe crime statistics do not wholly say what goes on people do get away with there crimes and the stats on unsolved street crimes aren't published to my knowledge.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2013 0:47:09 GMT
Conscription is the answer. education for them is important in order for the youngsters to have a future.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2013 4:16:25 GMT
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Post by wh541 on Mar 26, 2013 17:09:27 GMT
I tend to find Leyton and Walthamstow a bit dodgy! never venture upstairs on a 69 bus!
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Post by Trident on Mar 26, 2013 18:22:35 GMT
I tend to find Leyton and Walthamstow a bit dodgy! never venture upstairs on a 69 bus! I wouldnt say Leyton is that bad regularly going down High Road. You seem to have been unlucky as sometimes you get a bit of open air on the 69 with the assistant 97 carrying some of the patronage. You get a lot of teenagers going to Stratford City on the 97, which from a passenger's perspective you can sometimes get concerned particularly if you sit nearby. Walthamstow has quite a few gangs from estates such as The Drive and Priory Court which I believe do have links. Sent from my GT-S5830 using proboards
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2013 18:36:08 GMT
I tend to find Leyton and Walthamstow a bit dodgy! never venture upstairs on a 69 bus! I've went upstair on the 69 a few times even on the 257 during Peaks. Never had any problems with kids at the back of the bus.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2013 19:08:43 GMT
I tend to find Leyton and Walthamstow a bit dodgy! never venture upstairs on a 69 bus! Thats where the Spirit of London bus got destroyed
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Post by ServerKing on Mar 28, 2013 11:44:46 GMT
You don't need crime statistics to work out Hackney has major problems regardless of how many yuppies are flooding into the place trying to make more trendy & upmarket. Having lived in Hackney, this is so true No amount of trendies can bring Hackney upmarket... Aside from Leona Lewis, the only good thing to come out of Hackney is the 242 ;D They're embarking on Trendification of Tottenham as well, the area is being tarted up in advance of the new ASDA Stadium (White Hart Lane, no name decided but highly likely) TBH all areas in London can be bad if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time... Sent from my GT-I9100 using proboards
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Post by mondraker275 on Mar 29, 2013 7:47:24 GMT
I tend to find Leyton and Walthamstow a bit dodgy! never venture upstairs on a 69 bus! Thats where the Spirit of London bus got destroyed Coincidence Only. I take the 69 regularly Full Route, never had any problems. In fact, I hear alot of stories and comments about areas but when I have been there myself, I have not had any issues ever. Although I am usually not roaming around late at night which is probably the reason.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2013 14:30:24 GMT
This is frightening. Crime rate is now above average in Stratford. There have been 343 crimes in that area. Plus crime rate is super high in Westminster by 1521 crimes on February.
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Post by snoggle on Apr 15, 2013 15:30:56 GMT
This is frightening. Crime rate is now above average in Stratford. There have been 343 crimes in that area. Plus crime rate is super high in Westminster by 1521 crimes on February. There's a pretty simple explanation for rising crime, it boils down to three things - a) Increasing population - generally more people in London. b) Increasing population density - increasing population in a fixed area has meant people are more packed together. c) People generally have less money, and the natural correlation is that the more poor the man on the street is, the higher crime rates tend to be. If you looked at the poorest areas in the UK, they'd probably line up with the areas with the highest crime - deprivation brings crime, and London has a lot of deprivation. Westminster always has a high level of crime because of the high levels of people working in the area and also huge numbers of visitors. Visitors will always attract petty criminals / pickpockets because of the easy pickings. There is no point in trying to "reason" with Freebbc. He just reacts to the biased claptrap and hysteria that passes for journalism in the Daily Mail. I see further up the thread people were saying they feel threatened in Walthamstow and Leyton. In almost 30 years of living in the area I have seen very little trouble and experienced even less.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2013 15:35:27 GMT
This is frightening. Crime rate is now above average in Stratford. There have been 343 crimes in that area. Plus crime rate is super high in Westminster by 1521 crimes on February. There's a pretty simple explanation for rising crime, it boils down to three things - a) Increasing population - generally more people in London. b) Increasing population density - increasing population in a fixed area has meant people are more packed together. c) People generally have less money, and the natural correlation is that the more poor the man on the street is, the higher crime rates tend to be. If you looked at the poorest areas in the UK, they'd probably line up with the areas with the highest crime - deprivation brings crime, and London has a lot of deprivation. How will all of that going to be overturned? I dont want to end up like China. With the people that have less money, why haven't the council and megacorporations give them jobs? I would have conscription back as well. Plus would i be robbed for having a smart phone and a camera? I would think non medication drugs should be banned. If they want to take drugs, they can go to Holland and do it there. Its their rules not mine. Plus the communities need rebuilding and the propaganda from the media which promotes violence in their culture needs banning because it causes them to encourage. Plus the teenagers need community clubs to hang out instead of hanging out and causing trouble to innocent people to the streets. There should be a living wage for all people because they should have savings instead of it all go to tax so the politicians can waste it which are against our interests Also having £1 million on their pay check. Its all common sense what people need. For me money is nothing because i believe its all made out of thin air. There are ways to cut crime without making laws and having armed forces and armed response team on every corner of the street. But we are not living in a 3rd world country we are living in a civilised society and the people need to have common sense. Regeneration needs to start
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Post by wh541 on Apr 15, 2013 16:48:48 GMT
There's a pretty simple explanation for rising crime, it boils down to three things - a) Increasing population - generally more people in London. b) Increasing population density - increasing population in a fixed area has meant people are more packed together. c) People generally have less money, and the natural correlation is that the more poor the man on the street is, the higher crime rates tend to be. If you looked at the poorest areas in the UK, they'd probably line up with the areas with the highest crime - deprivation brings crime, and London has a lot of deprivation. How will all of that going to be overturned? I dont want to end up like China. With the people that have less money, why haven't the council and megacorporations give them jobs? I would have conscription back as well. Plus would i be robbed for having a smart phone and a camera? I would think non medication drugs should be banned. If they want to take drugs, they can go to Holland and do it there. Its their rules not mine. Plus the communities need rebuilding and the propaganda from the media which promotes violence in their culture needs banning because it causes them to encourage. Plus the teenagers need community clubs to hang out instead of hanging out and causing trouble to innocent people to the streets. There should be a living wage for all people because they should have savings instead of it all go to tax so the politicians can waste it which are against our interests Also having £1 million on their pay check. Its all common sense what people need. For me money is nothing because i believe its all made out of thin air. There are ways to cut crime without making laws and having armed forces and armed response team on every corner of the street. But we are not living in a 3rd world country we are living in a civilised society and the people need to have common sense. Regeneration needs to start Not really sure what this is about but no disrespect but you must be really out of touch if you think teenagers want to "hang out" in community centers ;D
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