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Post by E279 on Sept 30, 2019 10:39:10 GMT
After that disastrous e-mail response from TfL a couple of days ago I pestered them and they responded with this Now that certainly is interesting news. 35? Call me cynical but sounds like another error - then again, S, NP & Q do have electric charging facilities and we know the 94 is 100% confirmed so who knows. Have to say that's a big outlay for untried technology - I'd of thought they see how the 43, 94 & 134 go first. I believe they meant 357, talking to someone at NP, they had suggested that the 357 was actually the route getting electrics along with the 212, 230 and 106.
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Post by snoggle on Sept 30, 2019 11:00:38 GMT
I believe they meant 357, talking to someone at NP, they had suggested that the 357 was actually the route getting electrics along with the 212, 230 and 106. If nothing else it concentrates electric vehicles where the charging infrastructure is. Does seem a lavish outlay of expensive buses on relatively low key routes (the NP ones, not the 94). Be interesting to see what is bought for the routes as the BDEs are / look pretty long to me which might throw up some clearance issues.
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Post by E279 on Sept 30, 2019 11:07:49 GMT
I believe they meant 357, talking to someone at NP, they had suggested that the 357 was actually the route getting electrics along with the 212, 230 and 106. If nothing else it concentrates electric vehicles where the charging infrastructure is. Does seem a lavish outlay of expensive buses on relatively low key routes (the NP ones, not the 94). Be interesting to see what is bought for the routes as the BDEs are / look pretty long to me which might throw up some clearance issues. They are only 10.9m, all the routes mentioned are able to cope with the length. The 357 would also be SEe on Sunday.
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 30, 2019 11:15:28 GMT
44 buses are needed for the 106/212/230 and 357 meaning 5 spares. Certainly not enough for the first 3 routes and the 35. Also numerically would most likely have been written as 35, 94, 106, 212 and 230. The 35 last looks more like a typo of 357.
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Post by TP1 on Sept 30, 2019 11:29:06 GMT
44 buses are needed for the 106/212/230 and 357 meaning 5 spares. Certainly not enough for the first 3 routes and the 35. Also numerically would most likely have been written as 35, 94, 106, 212 and 230. The 35 last looks more like a typo of 357. Well work has commenced at NP for 60 new electric charging points so something's coming
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Post by E279 on Sept 30, 2019 11:33:17 GMT
44 buses are needed for the 106/212/230 and 357 meaning 5 spares. Certainly not enough for the first 3 routes and the 35. Also numerically would most likely have been written as 35, 94, 106, 212 and 230. The 35 last looks more like a typo of 357. Well work has commenced at NP for 60 new electric charging points so something's coming Oo for the 106, 212, 230, 357 and 444?
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Post by TP1 on Sept 30, 2019 12:03:35 GMT
Well work has commenced at NP for 60 new electric charging points so something's coming Oo for the 106, 212, 230, 357 and 444? That's the question. 444 definitely but that's no doubt a few routes worth
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Post by vjaska on Sept 30, 2019 13:29:26 GMT
If nothing else it concentrates electric vehicles where the charging infrastructure is. Does seem a lavish outlay of expensive buses on relatively low key routes (the NP ones, not the 94). Be interesting to see what is bought for the routes as the BDEs are / look pretty long to me which might throw up some clearance issues. They are only 10.9m, all the routes mentioned are able to cope with the length. The 357 would also be SEe on Sunday. There could potentially be an issue on the 357 at the Chingford Hatch end on the slip road as the bus turns around - AFAIK none of the longer single deckers at NP have ever worked the route and double deckers are wider - we’ll have to wait and see
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Post by vjaska on Sept 30, 2019 13:35:49 GMT
I’ve done a few calculations though note this doesn’t mean I’m correct:
The 94 is getting 29 electrics which has been 100% confirmed - if I add the 106, 212 & 230 in with double their current amount of spares, you get 72 leaving 6. In order to fully cater for the 357, you need at least two more electrics and that’s without it having 2 spares rather than 1 as it does now so personally and no doubt I’m likely wrong but the 357 is either seeing no electrics or a partial allocation.
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Post by E279 on Sept 30, 2019 14:29:42 GMT
I’ve done a few calculations though note this doesn’t mean I’m correct: The 94 is getting 29 electrics which has been 100% confirmed - if I add the 106, 212 & 230 in with double their current amount of spares, you get 72 leaving 6. In order to fully cater for the 357, you need at least two more electrics and that’s without it having 2 spares rather than 1 as it does now so personally and no doubt I’m likely wrong but the 357 is either seeing no electrics or a partial allocation. Wondering if maybe further buses are on order rather than just 78.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 30, 2019 15:58:58 GMT
I e-mailed TfL for some clarification regarding the 35, they responded in just a few hours to my surprise I imagine should this be correct then some routes won't have a full allocation of the buses. However we should remember that TfL's customer service department doesn't always tend to be in the loop with the latest info
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Post by Frenzie on Sept 30, 2019 16:03:58 GMT
I e-mailed TfL for some clarification regarding the 35, they responded in just a few hours to my surprise I imagine should this be correct then some routes won't have a full allocation of the buses. However we should remember that TfL's customer service department doesn't always tend to be in the loop with the latest info Ooooh. Maybe the figure of 78 doesn’t include those intended for the 94 and is instead the 35, 106, 212 and 230. Can’t see how all those routes plus the 94 can share 78 buses
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Post by vjaska on Sept 30, 2019 17:59:02 GMT
I e-mailed TfL for some clarification regarding the 35, they responded in just a few hours to my surprise I imagine should this be correct then some routes won't have a full allocation of the buses. However we should remember that TfL's customer service department doesn't always tend to be in the loop with the latest info Thanks much appreciated - I’m still dubious especially when they say the 35 only runs between Brixton & Shoreditch - simple information that TfL shouldn’t get wrong.
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Post by galwhv69 on Oct 1, 2019 7:02:06 GMT
News to me that the 35 is getting electrics. As vjaska said, they may have just got it wrong seeing as it says Brixton not Clapham Junction, an inexcusable mistake to be making.
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Post by Nathan on Oct 1, 2019 16:59:30 GMT
I e-mailed TfL for some clarification regarding the 35, they responded in just a few hours to my surprise I imagine should this be correct then some routes won't have a full allocation of the buses. However we should remember that TfL's customer service department doesn't always tend to be in the loop with the latest info Thanks much appreciated - I’m still dubious especially when they say the 35 only runs between Brixton & Shoreditch - simple information that TfL shouldn’t get wrong. Well they're technically not wrong. It does run between the mentions locations. They just missed out the Brixton-Clapham part 🤷🏾♂️
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