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Post by snowman on Oct 1, 2019 17:33:45 GMT
Thanks much appreciated - I’m still dubious especially when they say the 35 only runs between Brixton & Shoreditch - simple information that TfL shouldn’t get wrong. Well they're technically not wrong. It does run between the mentions locations. They just missed out the Brixton-Clapham part 🤷🏾♂️ ......unless the route is being shortened (which will need fewer electric buses)
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Post by Nathan on Oct 1, 2019 17:44:22 GMT
Well they're technically not wrong. It does run between the mentions locations. They just missed out the Brixton-Clapham part 🤷🏾♂️ ......unless the route is being shortened (which will need fewer electric buses) Hmm, I think that's unlikely though. There's no real reason for it (that I can think of)
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Post by M1104 on Oct 1, 2019 17:50:07 GMT
Well they're technically not wrong. It does run between the mentions locations. They just missed out the Brixton-Clapham part 🤷🏾♂️ ......unless the route is being shortened (which will need fewer electric buses) I'd be truely suprised if that happened as the Brixton to Clapham section is well used despite the 37 running with it from Acre Lane onwards.
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Post by rif153 on Oct 1, 2019 19:49:18 GMT
Interesting revelation. I'd heard some canteen gossip from a Q driver that the 35 and 40 were getting electrics a while back. Another route with electrics crossing London Bridge, as well as the 43. It remains to see how things will be in future with the 35, I really like the variety of hybrids Q out on what is a fantastic route.
Also it remains to be seen what will happen, but presumably the next tender will specify electric buses.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 19:52:42 GMT
Interesting revelation. I'd heard some canteen gossip from a Q driver that the 35 and 40 were getting electrics a while back. Another route with electrics crossing London Bridge, as well as the 43. It remains to see how things will be in future with the 35, I really like the variety of hybrids Q out on what is a fantastic route. Also it remains to be seen what will happen, but presumably the next tender will specify electric buses. Can you imagine it Q having to stick to a allocated type on one route Q is one garage you wouldn't want to work if you was OCD about types and numbers
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Post by southlondonbus on Oct 1, 2019 20:16:03 GMT
The 35 and 40 getting Electrics could be true but more likely if they were going to send their current buses to the 106/212/230/357. If the Walthamstow routes are going electric them I cant see the Q routes aswell. That would xplain the Walthamstow being TBC as possibly GO ahead trying to source some buses. I think we are only looking at 78 new Electrics at this point.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 1, 2019 21:11:29 GMT
Interesting revelation. I'd heard some canteen gossip from a Q driver that the 35 and 40 were getting electrics a while back. Another route with electrics crossing London Bridge, as well as the 43. It remains to see how things will be in future with the 35, I really like the variety of hybrids Q out on what is a fantastic route. Also it remains to be seen what will happen, but presumably the next tender will specify electric buses. Can you imagine it Q having to stick to a allocated type on one route Q is one garage you wouldn't want to work if you was OCD about types and numbers I think only E134 & E135 are strictly allocated at Q (as are the LT's for the 12 & 176) being the only two diesel double decks there - they are allocated to school work and outside of that, can only work the 185 in terms of full routes without falling foul of the ULEZ
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Post by rif153 on Oct 1, 2019 21:41:14 GMT
On the subject of Go Ahead, is there a Go Ahead garage which has strict allocations? Of course AF, SW, Q, NX, PM, NP, RR, SI etc. have non ULEZ compliant which they keep of their ULEZ routes successfully (unless you're SW) but I can't think of a GAL garage with strict allocations for each route.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 1, 2019 21:56:15 GMT
On the subject of Go Ahead, is there a Go Ahead garage which has strict allocations? Of course AF, SW, Q, NX, PM, NP, RR, SI etc. have non ULEZ compliant which they keep of their ULEZ routes successfully (unless you're SW) but I can't think of a GAL garage with strict allocations for each route. RR is probably one of the stricter lot, but even then there's still a decent amount of intermixing between the routes. The 5 and 101 both tend to stick to their respective batches of B9TLs. The 147 and 104 both tend to stick to their own Enviro400s. The ELT and 15 both tend to stick to their own LTs. The 115 is always solid EH The 364 generally uses its own E200s but gets helped out by the 396s ones and any SOE it can nab. The 396 well, that doesn't fit in with my theory at all so we shall silently ignore it.
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Post by galwhv69 on Oct 2, 2019 6:38:13 GMT
On the subject of Go Ahead, is there a Go Ahead garage which has strict allocations? Of course AF, SW, Q, NX, PM, NP, RR, SI etc. have non ULEZ compliant which they keep of their ULEZ routes successfully (unless you're SW) but I can't think of a GAL garage with strict allocations for each route. *Obs from LVF* PM? 321 uses its WVL's, 37 uses its E's & VHP's,63 uses its MHV's, P12 uses its SE's and the other EH routes tend to have most of the batch on one route, e.g. Route A has mostly 18 regs whilst route B has mostly 67 regs
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Post by M1104 on Oct 2, 2019 7:50:47 GMT
Can you imagine it Q having to stick to a allocated type on one route Q is one garage you wouldn't want to work if you was OCD about types and numbers I think only E134 & E135 are strictly allocated at Q (as are the LT's for the 12 & 176) being the only two diesel double decks there - they are allocated to school work and outside of that, can only work the 185 in terms of full routes without falling foul of the ULEZ TA1 is also strictly allocated
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Post by rif153 on Oct 2, 2019 17:47:19 GMT
On the subject of Go Ahead, is there a Go Ahead garage which has strict allocations? Of course AF, SW, Q, NX, PM, NP, RR, SI etc. have non ULEZ compliant which they keep of their ULEZ routes successfully (unless you're SW) but I can't think of a GAL garage with strict allocations for each route. *Obs from LVF* PM? 321 uses its WVL's, 37 uses its E's & VHP's,63 uses its MHV's, P12 uses its SE's and the other EH routes tend to have most of the batch on one route, e.g. Route A has mostly 18 regs whilst route B has mostly 67 regs 321 is run from NX not PM
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Post by vjaska on Oct 2, 2019 21:30:30 GMT
I e-mailed TfL for some clarification regarding the 35, they responded in just a few hours to my surprise I imagine should this be correct then some routes won't have a full allocation of the buses. However we should remember that TfL's customer service department doesn't always tend to be in the loop with the latest info I’ve read elsewhere that someone has done a FOI request to TfL regarding where the 78 vehicles are going and TfL stated in their reply that the 94, 106, 212, 230 & 357 are the recipients so TfL has now given out two pieces of information on the same subject that contradict each other.
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Post by galwhv69 on Oct 3, 2019 6:40:28 GMT
*Obs from LVF* PM? 321 uses its WVL's, 37 uses its E's & VHP's,63 uses its MHV's, P12 uses its SE's and the other EH routes tend to have most of the batch on one route, e.g. Route A has mostly 18 regs whilst route B has mostly 67 regs 321 is run from NX not PM Ah, thanks
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Post by tbmlondon on Oct 4, 2019 6:11:07 GMT
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