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Post by snoggle on May 15, 2014 16:02:52 GMT
Courtesy of LOTS TLB May 2014 - all the routes that used to use Narrow Way Hackney permanently rerouted away. D6 permanently curtailed at Ash Grove. 31/5/14 - W19 gets upgrade to x15 M-S daytimes from 21/6/14.  - route 406 and 418 both go up to x20 M-S daytimes from 28/6/14. That solves the mystery of how the new double deckers will be deployed. - N8 apparently confirmed as NB4L conversion from 28/6/14 - Putney Bridge closure from 5/7/14 until September. No detail yet on how routes will be affected. - W4, 41 and N41 rerouted both ways via Broad Lane Tottenham and looks like new bus station at T Hale may come into use. Seems this is a Monday rather than a Saturday! - 263 extended to Highbury Barn on 26/7/14 - P5 rerouted at Camberwell 12/7/14 - 386 rerouted at Blaclheath 19/7/14 I think these latter two are just minor changes and have been consulted on. |
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Post by Green Kitten on May 15, 2014 16:16:36 GMT
Great to see the 263 being extended along the entirety of Holloway Road Lots of rammed 43s and 271s even outside of peak hours  |
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Post by TA1 on May 15, 2014 16:24:21 GMT
Courtesy of LOTS TLB May 2014 - all the routes that used to use Narrow Way Hackney permanently rerouted away. D6 permanently curtailed at Ash Grove. 31/5/14 - W19 gets upgrade to x15 M-S daytimes from 21/6/14. - route 406 and 418 both go up to x20 M-S daytimes from 28/6/14. That solves the mystery of how the new double deckers will be deployed. - N8 apparently confirmed as NB4L conversion from 28/6/14 - Putney Bridge closure from 5/7/14 until September. No detail yet on how routes will be affected. - W4, 41 and N41 rerouted both ways via Broad Lane Tottenham and looks like new bus station at T Hale may come into use. Seems this is a Monday rather than a Saturday! - 263 extended to Highbury Barn on 26/7/14 - P5 rerouted at Camberwell 12/7/14 - 386 rerouted at Blaclheath 19/7/14 I think these latter two are just minor changes and have been consulted on. I presume the W19 could utilise existing LDP's that may be spare, although the exact amount spare remains a mystery as their are a couple being used at Metrobus. Staying with the W19 I wonder if the AM school journey will be retained. |
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Post by snoggle on May 15, 2014 16:41:41 GMT
Courtesy of LOTS TLB May 2014 - all the routes that used to use Narrow Way Hackney permanently rerouted away. D6 permanently curtailed at Ash Grove. 31/5/14 - W19 gets upgrade to x15 M-S daytimes from 21/6/14. - route 406 and 418 both go up to x20 M-S daytimes from 28/6/14. That solves the mystery of how the new double deckers will be deployed. - N8 apparently confirmed as NB4L conversion from 28/6/14 - Putney Bridge closure from 5/7/14 until September. No detail yet on how routes will be affected. - W4, 41 and N41 rerouted both ways via Broad Lane Tottenham and looks like new bus station at T Hale may come into use. Seems this is a Monday rather than a Saturday! - 263 extended to Highbury Barn on 26/7/14 - P5 rerouted at Camberwell 12/7/14 - 386 rerouted at Blaclheath 19/7/14 I think these latter two are just minor changes and have been consulted on. I presume the W19 could utilise existing LDP's that may be spare, although the exact amount spare remains a mystery as their are a couple being used at Metrobus. Staying with the W19 I wonder if the AM school journey will be retained. Well clearly Go Ahead do have a surplus of single deckers at the moment. To be honest longer buses like LDPs and SEs are needed on the W19 given how crowded it can get. I suspect the SDO AM jny will go - a classic TfL move when it ups the general frequency. A slight shame the Sunday daytime frequency isn't being boosted as it fills up then too. I suspect we may have reached the frequency limit for the W19 given how tight it is down South Access Road with parked cars - too much risk of buses meeting head on and not being to pass or reverse. |
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Post by Nathan on May 15, 2014 21:36:51 GMT
Courtesy of LOTS TLB May 2014 - W19 gets upgrade to x15 M-S daytimes from 21/6/14. - 263 extended to Highbury Barn on 26/7/14 - P5 rerouted at Camberwell 12/7/14 - 386 rerouted at Blaclheath 19/7/14 I think these latter two are just minor changes and have been consulted on. Few questions here: - Is it possible that the W19 will use extra buses from AL? I know they've been spreading about to places like NX and MB. I have a feeling that MB will be able to release a bus to SI (or BE, wherever its operated). - Which route will the 263 extension take? - Will the 263 require extra buses? - How will the P5 and 386 be rerouted? |
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Post by Connor on May 15, 2014 21:41:44 GMT
Courtesy of LOTS TLB May 2014 - 263 extended to Highbury Barn on 26/7/14 - P5 rerouted at Camberwell 12/7/14 - 386 rerouted at Blaclheath 19/7/14 I think these latter two are just minor changes and have been consulted on. Few questions here: - Which route will the 263 extension take? - Will the 263 require extra buses? - How will the P5 and 386 be rerouted? The P5 will probably be rerouted to its old route via Calais Street. It's been a few years since it was "temporarily" rerouted via the current route so it's nice to see the old bit return! |
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Post by Green Kitten on May 15, 2014 22:00:56 GMT
Few questions here: - Which route will the 263 extension take? - Will the 263 require extra buses? If the route extension according to the proposal, via the rest of Holloway Road, and St. Paul's Rd and Highbury Grove. That adds about a mile and a bit or so of extra route, so I'd imagine it would need more buses, but let's wait and see  |
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Post by snoggle on May 15, 2014 22:21:43 GMT
Courtesy of LOTS TLB May 2014 - W19 gets upgrade to x15 M-S daytimes from 21/6/14. - 263 extended to Highbury Barn on 26/7/14 - P5 rerouted at Camberwell 12/7/14 - 386 rerouted at Blaclheath 19/7/14 I think these latter two are just minor changes and have been consulted on. Few questions here: - Is it possible that the W19 will use extra buses from AL? I know they've been spreading about to places like NX and MB. I have a feeling that MB will be able to release a bus to SI (or BE, wherever its operated). - Which route will the 263 extension take? - Will the 263 require extra buses? - How will the P5 and 386 be rerouted? I can't answer the W19 question. By my reckoning the frequency increase will require 2 extra buses M-F and 3 on Saturday. There is already an extra bus for a peak extra M-F. If you check the consultation pages on the TfL website then you'll get the info for the others. As I am a very nice person I have provided the links below. And yes the 263 will definitely require extra buses - I'd guess 3 or 4 extra. P5386263 |
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Post by vjaska on May 15, 2014 22:59:14 GMT
Few questions here: - Is it possible that the W19 will use extra buses from AL? I know they've been spreading about to places like NX and MB. I have a feeling that MB will be able to release a bus to SI (or BE, wherever its operated). - Which route will the 263 extension take? - Will the 263 require extra buses? - How will the P5 and 386 be rerouted? I can't answer the W19 question. By my reckoning the frequency increase will require 2 extra buses M-F and 3 on Saturday. There is already an extra bus for a peak extra M-F. If you check the consultation pages on the TfL website then you'll get the info for the others. As I am a very nice person I have provided the links below. And yes the 263 will definitely require extra buses - I'd guess 3 or 4 extra. P5386263Hmm, regarding the P5, the 'traffic management scheme' seems more of a fib. IIRC, it was removed, first from Lothian Road & Langton Road, and then from it's diverted route via Calais Street & Flodden Road (the latter survived) due to parking. Also noticed from a quick google maps glance that: The route along Flodden Road, Knatchbull Road & Lilford Road is hail & ride so it seemed to always be temporary Lothian Road & parts of Langton Road are still narrow due to the parked cars |
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Post by vjaska on May 16, 2014 0:29:01 GMT
Few questions here: - Is it possible that the W19 will use extra buses from AL? I know they've been spreading about to places like NX and MB. I have a feeling that MB will be able to release a bus to SI (or BE, wherever its operated). - Which route will the 263 extension take? - Will the 263 require extra buses? - How will the P5 and 386 be rerouted? Imagine the W19 will use SN51 Darts as they're the only spare single-deck vehicles left lying around. Where exactly they'll be sourced from I don't know. Most of them appear to be floating around at various garages for whatever reason: 191, 204 are at SW 194, 208 are at BE 195, 209, 210 are at NX 196 is at Q 197, 201 are at A 198, 205 are at AL 202, 207 are at BX 206 is at PM The routing of the extended 263 is provided here on the consultation page: consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/bus-route-263. I'd be very surprised if the extension was achieved within existing PVR. Based on timings from other routes I'd say the extension is probably about 10 minutes each way, so I'd expect +3 PVR, which will presumably be sourced from spares in the Metroline fleet. The routing of the diverted P5 can be found here: consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/p5/results/p5-re-routeing-consultation-report-final.pdf. Not sure what the proposed change to the 386 is, however - unless it's the planned change long ago to re-route it via the main road in both directions (which can be found here: consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/route-386/consult_view) The AL ones are refurb floats for the 200's SE's whilst I believe the NX ones are actually allocated to the 108. I'm hoping LDP196 stays at Q, best bus out of the lot and regularly appears on the 355. |
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Post by routew15 on May 22, 2014 9:12:30 GMT
• During peak hours the W19 runs quite frequently but outside of that the route is annoying because it runs every 20 mins.
Hoping they don't stick 10.8m buses on the W19 because they really do struggle with the tight corners of of Whipps Cross Hospital, James Lane/ Essex Road South and sometimes at Fairlop Road/ Hainault Road. I know it's a while away but the W19 should definately get new 10.2m buses on its next contract.
• the 386 rerouting will not changes much to the route only real difference is passengers transferring from buses via Blackheath Station can interchange easier with the 386
• the P5 rerouting may make the route faster
• this may be a bit controversial but I don't think the 263 should be extended I think the 41 should of been extended instead. However it will make the 263 more helpful it diffinately will be busy.
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Post by snowman on May 29, 2014 11:26:33 GMT
Affects a number of routes so will include in this thread Bus stops are being moved away from King Street in Twickenham from June 2nd (Yes the very wide road that is main shopping area and once had trollybus wires that allowed U turns to be done) www.richmond.gov.uk/bus_stops |
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Post by snoggle on May 29, 2014 11:46:21 GMT
Affects a number of routes so will include in this thread Bus stops are being moved away from King Street in Twickenham from June 2nd (Yes the very wide road that is main shopping area and once had trollybus wires that allowed U turns to be done) www.richmond.gov.uk/bus_stops More nonsense whereby a simple interchange between services is destroyed forcing people to walk much greater distances with more risk of accidents due to more roads to cross. Who invents this rubbish? |
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Post by lc1 on Jun 1, 2014 22:00:26 GMT
491 is a getting a new timetable soon, I believe there's going to be less interwoking on to the 327  |
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Post by eggmiester on Jun 2, 2014 0:04:05 GMT
The W19 will use two ED's from NX made surplus by the double decking of the 129.
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