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Post by mb171 on Apr 25, 2024 16:35:50 GMT
they should reroute the at 36 at paddington up towards cricklewood like the 16 does to give a connection from cricklewood to places like baker street and victoria like the 16 use to. also i get that the 36 is along route so many they could cut it back to peckham. for the queen's park section it could be replaced by the 16 so they kinda swap roles. a way of resolving this would just be giving bringing back the og 16 but that aint gonna happen 36 is already long. By doing this it will ruin the routes reliability. Plus the 16 has been changed enough times so it might as well just be left as it is.
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Post by londonbusbro on Apr 25, 2024 18:04:58 GMT
they should reroute the at 36 at paddington up towards cricklewood like the 16 does to give a connection from cricklewood to places like baker street and victoria like the 16 use to. also i get that the 36 is along route so many they could cut it back to peckham. for the queen's park section it could be replaced by the 16 so they kinda swap roles. a way of resolving this would just be giving bringing back the og 16 but that aint gonna happen 36 is already long. By doing this it will ruin the routes reliability. Plus the 16 has been changed enough times so it might as well just be left as it is. what about extending the 189 to victoria
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Post by bk10mfe on Apr 25, 2024 18:49:23 GMT
36 is already long. By doing this it will ruin the routes reliability. Plus the 16 has been changed enough times so it might as well just be left as it is. what about extending the 189 to victoria Not needed, the 2 & 13 on the Victoria-Baker St corridor are sufficient. The 6 & 98 could have swapped termini as initially proposed so that the 98 retains the Victoria-Kilburn link, unlike the 6 which only makes it as far as Maida Hill.
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Post by ZiyQ on Apr 25, 2024 19:49:00 GMT
This might be going into fantasy beyond this thread, but what if a faster route from Edmonton Green / Ponders End to Seven Sisters and further existed, via Silver Street, North Circular Road, part of the Meridian Water development, Watermead Way and Tottenham Hale? It could enable much faster links along the busy North / South A10 corridor, and serve the Meridian Water development once it is completed. This route would likely only work if adequate bus priority measures are installed along Watermead Way (especially Southbound), and once the Meridian Water development is fully completed.
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Post by Busboy105 on Apr 25, 2024 21:57:15 GMT
This might be going into fantasy beyond this thread, but what if a faster route from Edmonton Green / Ponders End to Seven Sisters and further existed, via Silver Street, North Circular Road, part of the Meridian Water development, Watermead Way and Tottenham Hale? It could enable much faster links along the busy North / South A10 corridor, and serve the Meridian Water development once it is completed. This route would likely only work if adequate bus priority measures are installed along Watermead Way (especially Southbound), and once the Meridian Water development is fully completed. The Meridian Water consultation should be dropping soon so we'll see what happens there
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Post by londonbusbro on Apr 26, 2024 11:34:57 GMT
122 extenstion to Streatham giving a link from streatham To Lewisham and woolwich
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Post by bk10mfe on Apr 26, 2024 11:53:45 GMT
122 extenstion to Streatham giving a link from streatham To Lewisham and woolwich Although a route starting in Streatham going through South London via Crystal Palace would be good, the 122 is too long of a route to extend. The proposed Streatham-Eltham Superloop route may somewhat cover this though.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 26, 2024 13:34:07 GMT
122 extenstion to Streatham giving a link from streatham To Lewisham and woolwich Although a route starting in Streatham going through South London via Crystal Palace would be good, the 122 is too long of a route to extend. The proposed Streatham-Eltham Superloop route may somewhat cover this though. Agree with the 122 being too long for an extension but the Superloop certainly won't cover this and a link between Streatham & Lewisham which the Superloop (using it's vague wording of via Tulse Hill & Lee) won't cover, would be a good idea.
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Post by ZiyQ on Apr 26, 2024 16:51:23 GMT
This might be going into fantasy beyond this thread, but what if a faster route from Edmonton Green / Ponders End to Seven Sisters and further existed, via Silver Street, North Circular Road, part of the Meridian Water development, Watermead Way and Tottenham Hale? It could enable much faster links along the busy North / South A10 corridor, and serve the Meridian Water development once it is completed. This route would likely only work if adequate bus priority measures are installed along Watermead Way (especially Southbound), and once the Meridian Water development is fully completed. The Meridian Water consultation should be dropping soon so we'll see what happens there Definitely, especially considering how large the development is planned to be, and with Drumsheds already being an extremely busy venue when it is active. I expect some big bus changes to happen for the development (maybe not to the scale to what I had written).
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Post by Busboy105 on Apr 26, 2024 18:08:16 GMT
The Meridian Water consultation should be dropping soon so we'll see what happens there Definitely, especially considering how large the development is planned to be, and with Drumsheds already being an extremely busy venue when it is active. I expect some big bus changes to happen for the development (maybe not to the scale to what I had written). I think it will be similar to the Brent Cross West changes. Small incremental changes that will look disappointing
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Post by bk10mfe on Apr 26, 2024 19:04:53 GMT
Definitely, especially considering how large the development is planned to be, and with Drumsheds already being an extremely busy venue when it is active. I expect some big bus changes to happen for the development (maybe not to the scale to what I had written). I think it will be similar to the Brent Cross West changes. Small incremental changes that will look disappointing I think there were mentions of new LV1 & LV2 routes running along Lea Valley, as well as extending the 476 & W3 to Meridian Water. Personally I think this could be done, relatively cheap but very beneficial: 1. W3 extended to Meridian Water only, don’t see a need for the 476 to be extended when it shares a lot in common with the 341. W3 linking Meridian Water to Wood Green & Alexandra Palace is very beneficial. 2. W8 & 192 to swap termini after Edmonton Green, giving the Tottenham-Edmonton corridor much more capacity. I would have the W8 run its current route to the end of Bounces Road, then down Montague Road & taking over the 192 to Tottenham Hale. The 192 would run its current route to the end of Town Road, then up Montague Road to Lea Valley Campsite.
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Post by Connor on Apr 26, 2024 19:32:15 GMT
I think it will be similar to the Brent Cross West changes. Small incremental changes that will look disappointing I think there were mentions of new LV1 & LV2 routes running along Lea Valley, as well as extending the 476 & W3 to Meridian Water. Personally I think this could be done, relatively cheap but very beneficial: 1. W3 extended to Meridian Water only, don’t see a need for the 476 to be extended when it shares a lot in common with the 341. W3 linking Meridian Water to Wood Green & Alexandra Palace is very beneficial. 2. W8 & 192 to swap termini after Edmonton Green, giving the Tottenham-Edmonton corridor much more capacity. I would have the W8 run its current route to the end of Bounces Road, then down Montague Road & taking over the 192 to Tottenham Hale. The 192 would run its current route to the end of Town Road, then up Montague Road to Lea Valley Campsite. As a W8 driver, I think your suggestion is excellent. Many new links would be created and increased capacity would be appreciated along the section to Tottenham Hale. I would also leave the W8 along Bounces Road...the 191 would suffer quote badly otherwise. I would also cut out the loop into the old IKEA Edmonton for reliability reasons. And all this would require a lot more buses but I'm sure there will be plenty of spare TE's laying around
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Post by bk10mfe on Apr 26, 2024 20:31:31 GMT
I think there were mentions of new LV1 & LV2 routes running along Lea Valley, as well as extending the 476 & W3 to Meridian Water. Personally I think this could be done, relatively cheap but very beneficial: 1. W3 extended to Meridian Water only, don’t see a need for the 476 to be extended when it shares a lot in common with the 341. W3 linking Meridian Water to Wood Green & Alexandra Palace is very beneficial. 2. W8 & 192 to swap termini after Edmonton Green, giving the Tottenham-Edmonton corridor much more capacity. I would have the W8 run its current route to the end of Bounces Road, then down Montague Road & taking over the 192 to Tottenham Hale. The 192 would run its current route to the end of Town Road, then up Montague Road to Lea Valley Campsite. As a W8 driver, I think your suggestion is excellent. Many new links would be created and increased capacity would be appreciated along the section to Tottenham Hale. I would also leave the W8 along Bounces Road...the 191 would suffer quote badly otherwise. I would also cut out the loop into the old IKEA Edmonton for reliability reasons. And all this would require a lot more buses but I'm sure there will be plenty of spare TE's laying around I imagine a new set of bus stops could be placed just outside Meridian Water Station, so the W8 wouldn’t need to loop on Glover Drive. This would also be slightly closer to the developments & the station itself, while still in reasonable distance to the Tesco too. I’ve often seen 192’s absolutely rammed in Tottenham Hale as a result of the absolutely tiny buses they use, due to the tight turns around Bush Hill Park area. Meanwhile I would imagine (correct me if I’m wrong on this) that the W8 doesn’t have that many people going to the Picketts Lock Centre & that a single deck route like the 192 or W6 would be sufficient in catering for this. The W8 is also meant to be recieving new electric buses for its next contract, which begins on July 20th.
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Post by ZiyQ on Apr 27, 2024 9:44:21 GMT
I think there were mentions of new LV1 & LV2 routes running along Lea Valley, as well as extending the 476 & W3 to Meridian Water. Personally I think this could be done, relatively cheap but very beneficial: 1. W3 extended to Meridian Water only, don’t see a need for the 476 to be extended when it shares a lot in common with the 341. W3 linking Meridian Water to Wood Green & Alexandra Palace is very beneficial. 2. W8 & 192 to swap termini after Edmonton Green, giving the Tottenham-Edmonton corridor much more capacity. I would have the W8 run its current route to the end of Bounces Road, then down Montague Road & taking over the 192 to Tottenham Hale. The 192 would run its current route to the end of Town Road, then up Montague Road to Lea Valley Campsite. As a W8 driver, I think your suggestion is excellent. Many new links would be created and increased capacity would be appreciated along the section to Tottenham Hale. I would also leave the W8 along Bounces Road...the 191 would suffer quote badly otherwise. I would also cut out the loop into the old IKEA Edmonton for reliability reasons. And all this would require a lot more buses but I'm sure there will be plenty of spare TE's laying around The W8 extension would definitely be great, and has been on the cards for TFL for a while now. I think the original plan was to have the W8 extended all the way to Walthamstow Central, via the 230's routing, but since the introduction of the SL1 and SL2, I don't think there is much stand space left in Walthamstow, so the originally planned further extension might not be happening anymore.
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Post by greg on Apr 27, 2024 11:27:33 GMT
The Meridian Water consultation should be dropping soon so we'll see what happens there Definitely, especially considering how large the development is planned to be, and with Drumsheds already being an extremely busy venue when it is active. I expect some big bus changes to happen for the development (maybe not to the scale to what I had written). I reckon it will just be the W3 extended to Meridian Water and a swap of the W8/192 routings. The change that involved the 476 cut to Newington Green may be introduced as slightly amended, i don’t think TFL would hold back so easily. Probably an extension further north via Meridian Water while shorterning the western section, which would have the 73 already or a merge with another route from the North. I was thinking maybe the 41 extended up to Meridian Water via the 192 routing??
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