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Post by jrussa on Feb 2, 2015 13:07:56 GMT
I've travelled regularly on this route in recent times and the loadings from Ilford during the peak hours are gigantic. What is even worse is that when one bus takes up all the passengers another two follow right behind. The second bus is partially full while the third bus has no more than three persons.
I recall when Route 364 was diverted towards Dagenham East from Green Lanes, there were three 364 buses behind each other. No car in between! I've seen this on many occasions!
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Post by snoggle on Feb 2, 2015 13:14:55 GMT
I've travelled regularly on this route in recent times and the loadings from Ilford during the peak hours are gigantic. What is even worse is that when one bus takes up all the passengers another two follow right behind. The second is partially full while the third has no more than three persons. I recall when Route 364 was diverted towards Dagenham East from Green Lanes, there were three 364 buses behind each other. No car in between! I've seen this on many occasions! While the route is tremendously busy I do think part of the crowding problem is down to the efficacy of Go Ahead's operation. It should have had a small frequency increase, when retendered, up to 7 or 8 bph in the peak that would ease things out a bit. Well it is run by Bus.
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Post by su31 on Feb 2, 2015 16:51:08 GMT
I commented on the loadings and bunching last year in the tenders section, hoping they'd increase to DD vehicles. I've also mentioned the timetable is poor and there should be earlier / later buses to connect with the trains from both Ilford and Dagenham East.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Feb 2, 2015 17:11:32 GMT
The issue I have seen with the 364 is similar to that of the 368. A huge capacity increase isn't needed, simply running the route properly without horrendous gaps in the service would keep the crowds under control.
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Post by Green Kitten on Feb 2, 2015 18:32:57 GMT
I've travelled regularly on this route in recent times and the loadings from Ilford during the peak hours are gigantic. What is even worse is that when one bus takes up all the passengers another two follow right behind. The second is partially full while the third has no more than three persons. I recall when Route 364 was diverted towards Dagenham East from Green Lanes, there were three 364 buses behind each other. No car in between! I've seen this on many occasions! While the route is tremendously busy I do think part of the crowding problem is down to the efficacy of Go Ahead's operation. It should have had a small frequency increase, when retendered, up to 7 or 8 bph in the peak that would ease things out a bit. Well it is run by Bus. Could anyone shed light on the etymology of the word bandit used for badly presented buses?
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Post by John tuthill on Feb 2, 2015 22:24:04 GMT
While the route is tremendously busy I do think part of the crowding problem is down to the efficacy of Go Ahead's operation. It should have had a small frequency increase, when retendered, up to 7 or 8 bph in the peak that would ease things out a bit. Well it is run by Bus. Could anyone shed light on the etymology of the word bandit used for badly presented buses? Cowboy is sexist. So to keep Harriet Harperson happy they call them Bandits-none generic
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Post by fl70500 on Feb 9, 2015 12:08:29 GMT
refurbishment has commenced so they should all look fresh soon.
As like the 368s time is still tight. some buses get mobbed others sail through
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Feb 9, 2015 16:22:38 GMT
I've seen a few of the refurbished buses, they still look pretty dull compared to Arriva and Stagecoach's Enviro200s
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Post by Connor on Feb 9, 2015 16:24:10 GMT
I've seen a few of the refurbished buses, they still look pretty dull compared to Arriva and Stagecoach's Enviro200s Any Enviro 200 is boring.
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Route 364
Feb 9, 2015 19:04:28 GMT
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Post by vjaska on Feb 9, 2015 19:04:28 GMT
I've seen a few of the refurbished buses, they still look pretty dull compared to Arriva and Stagecoach's Enviro200s Any Enviro 200 is boring. Voith and ZF ones are quite interesting as are Euro VI Allison ones, unfortunately they all look rubbish IMO.
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Post by routew15 on Jul 16, 2015 13:22:37 GMT
Was scrolling through FOIs and opened one on the 364. From what I understand the petitioner travels by train to Goodmayes in order to catch the last (or one of the last) journies on 364 but this service runs early. TfL responded with the data, but (correct if wrong I'm wrong) it looks like the service departs an hour early from Goodmayes! Can anyone cross check this data please (need a second opinion) Last bus running early (route 364)
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Post by snoggle on Jul 16, 2015 14:23:34 GMT
Was scrolling through FOIs and opened one on the 364. From what I understand the petitioner travels by train to Goodmayes in order to catch the last (or one of the last) journies on 364 but this service runs early. TfL responded with the data, but (correct if wrong I'm wrong) it looks like the service departs an hour early from Goodmayes! Can anyone cross check this data please (need a second opinion) Last bus running early (route 364) I think the data in the answer is in the most user unfriendly format possible. They couldn't even put it in a spreadsheet! I think the problem is that there is a mix of data headings / search criteria mixed in with the actual results. It took me over 5 mins to disentangle one line of data and put it on a spreadsheet against what I think the right headings are but I can't be 100% certain. I actually think they've done the wrong data and produced data for the 364 going to Goodmayes for the stop at Ilford Station rather than info for the stop at Goodmayes Station going to Ilford!! I might be wrong though. If I was the requestor I'd go back to TfL and ask them to provide a properly structured and explained dataset. Replying to people in that fashion just suggests to me that they don't want to give the requestor the evidence he has asked for because they know what comes next. If the wrong data has been extracted then that just shows TfL still don't understand the question despite mulitple contact about the issue (based on what the FOI request says).
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Post by routew15 on Jul 16, 2015 16:39:35 GMT
I think the data in the answer is in the most user unfriendly format possible. They couldn't even put it in a spreadsheet! I think the problem is that there is a mix of data headings / search criteria mixed in with the actual results. It took me over 5 mins to disentangle one line of data and put it on a spreadsheet against what I think the right headings are but I can't be 100% certain. I actually think they've done the wrong data and produced data for the 364 going to Goodmayes for the stop at Ilford Station rather than info for the stop at Goodmayes Station going to Ilford!! I might be wrong though. If I was the requestor I'd go back to TfL and ask them to provide a properly structured and explained dataset. Replying to people in that fashion just suggests to me that they don't want to give the requestor the evidence he has asked for because they know what comes next. If the wrong data has been extracted then that just shows TfL still don't understand the question despite mulitple contact about the issue (based on what the FOI request says). Totally agree. They had the nerve to call a table! What a joke! Im not sure where they are extracting the data from but it's still confusing how the bus is leaving an hour early in some cases. I would like to keep track if this problem and know if / how fast it is resolved.
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Jul 16, 2015 17:08:50 GMT
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Post by schedcomp on Jul 16, 2015 17:08:50 GMT
I think the data in the answer is in the most user unfriendly format possible. They couldn't even put it in a spreadsheet! I think the problem is that there is a mix of data headings / search criteria mixed in with the actual results. It took me over 5 mins to disentangle one line of data and put it on a spreadsheet against what I think the right headings are but I can't be 100% certain. I actually think they've done the wrong data and produced data for the 364 going to Goodmayes for the stop at Ilford Station rather than info for the stop at Goodmayes Station going to Ilford!! I might be wrong though. If I was the requestor I'd go back to TfL and ask them to provide a properly structured and explained dataset. Replying to people in that fashion just suggests to me that they don't want to give the requestor the evidence he has asked for because they know what comes next. If the wrong data has been extracted then that just shows TfL still don't understand the question despite mulitple contact about the issue (based on what the FOI request says). Totally agree. They had the nerve to call a table! What a joke! Im not sure where they are extracting the data from but it's still confusing how the bus is leaving an hour early in some cases. I would like to keep track if this problem and know if / how fast it is resolved. It took me a few mins to understand the info. Whilst it appears to be 1 hour early it isn't. The times they are quoting include hours, mins and seconds. The bus is due 00:01:00 means 00:01 and 0 seconds. This matches the timetable which has the last trip at 00:01 from goodmayes towards ilford. The data supplied shows most trips 1-4 mins early. This comes down to the main issue. Do you vary the running time every evening giving less Sunday and more Saturday, which is hard for the public to remember or leave a uniform timetable which people can understand? I would guess the days with most early departures are Sunday to Wednesday but don't plan on assessing the data!
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Post by routew15 on Jul 16, 2015 17:26:19 GMT
Totally agree. They had the nerve to call a table! What a joke! Im not sure where they are extracting the data from but it's still confusing how the bus is leaving an hour early in some cases. I would like to keep track if this problem and know if / how fast it is resolved. It took me a few mins to understand the info. Whilst it appears to be 1 hour early it isn't. The times they are quoting include hours, mins and seconds. The bus is due 00:01:00 means 00:01 and 0 seconds. This matches the timetable which has the last trip at 00:01 from goodmayes towards ilford. The data supplied shows most trips 1-4 mins early. This comes down to the main issue. Do you vary the running time every evening giving less Sunday and more Saturday, which is hard for the public to remember or leave a uniform timetable which people can understand? I would guess the days with most early departures are Sunday to Wednesday but don't plan on assessing the data! Ahhhhh I see Thank You for clearing that up for me (I clearly wasn't reading it probably
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