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Post by planesandtrains on Mar 22, 2017 15:43:05 GMT
A man has driven into people on Westminster Bridge, crashed into the railings outisde the Houses of Parliament, many injured.
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Post by T.R. on Mar 22, 2017 16:34:25 GMT
Westminster Station, Parliament Square and Westminster Bridge have been closed and the area is on full lockdown.
Sadly there has been at least one fatality.
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Post by busoccultation on Mar 22, 2017 17:07:48 GMT
Absolutely horrific to see what is happening at the moment. I Hope everyone is alright and hopefully no more fatalities or injures with 1 already dead and several are injured.  My thoughts and prayers to families and victims in this horrible attack.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 17:10:10 GMT
I hope I am not speaking out of term but can we just for now not worry about what buses are caught up etc. I see reports on other threads about Stagecoach buses but have just watched the news for a hour and seen no mention of buses being involved! apart from being stuck on the bridge of course.
A very sad day and thoughts are with the injured and those who have lost loved ones.
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Post by sid on Mar 22, 2017 17:17:27 GMT
This comes a year to the day after the Brussels atrocity. It would appear to be one individual acting alone and what can realistically be done to prevent such lone wolf attacks?
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Post by snoggle on Mar 22, 2017 17:41:01 GMT
This comes a year to the day after the Brussels atrocity. It would appear to be one individual acting alone and what can realistically be done to prevent such lone wolf attacks? Given there are media statements saying three things happened simultaneously [1] I am a little doubtful that there was only a perpetrator but it is obviously very early days in terms of the investigation. [1] someone in the river Thames, a vehicle colliding with people on or near Westminster Bridge and a policeman being stabbed in the outer area of the Palace of Westminster. I agree with the sentiment earlier about not worrying about buses near the incident location. It's not remotely relevant to the ongoing situation where at least 1 person has 2 people have died. |
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Post by sid on Mar 22, 2017 17:59:22 GMT
This comes a year to the day after the Brussels atrocity. It would appear to be one individual acting alone and what can realistically be done to prevent such lone wolf attacks? Given there are media statements saying three things happened simultaneously [1] I am a little doubtful that there was only a perpetrator but it is obviously very early days in terms of the investigation. [1] someone in the river Thames, a vehicle colliding with people on or near Westminster Bridge and a policeman being stabbed in the outer area of the Palace of Westminster. I agree with the sentiment earlier about not worrying about buses near the incident location. It's not remotely relevant to the ongoing situation where at least 1 person has 2 people have died. Sadly a police officer has also died. Obviously reports of buses are not relevant here but are on the turns and observations thread. |
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Post by towertransit70 on Mar 22, 2017 18:00:37 GMT
My sinceres to those who are injured/died. I hope this will not happen again! Looks like the beginning has begun |
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Post by vjaska on Mar 22, 2017 18:27:39 GMT
Sadly the death toll has risen to 4 - my thoughts and prayers to all those affected.
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Post by M1104 on Mar 22, 2017 18:37:58 GMT
Some primary schoolkids on visit were inside Parliament as part of the safeguard lockdown (media showing reports of them being escorted out afterwards). Hopefully they weren't too traumatised from the incident, especially where the gun shots may have been heard.
Condolences to all who were lost and their family and friends who are now grieving. Also hoping those that are injured will make as full and prompt a recovery as possible.
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Post by mondraker275 on Mar 22, 2017 18:43:42 GMT
This comes a year to the day after the Brussels atrocity. It would appear to be one individual acting alone and what can realistically be done to prevent such lone wolf attacks? You cant. Clearly these lone wolves are slightly unstable people with probably histories or troubled lives. It takes minimal encouragement for them to switch and do something crazy. It could be even from the announcement of the electronic items ban on planes, the UK announced yesterday from 6 randomly selected countries for this individual. Fortunately, lone wolves in countries like the US can do major damage with the availability of guns, so the UK is better for that. |
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Post by sid on Mar 22, 2017 18:53:54 GMT
This comes a year to the day after the Brussels atrocity. It would appear to be one individual acting alone and what can realistically be done to prevent such lone wolf attacks? You cant. Clearly these lone wolves are slightly unstable people with probably histories or troubled lives. It takes minimal encouragement for them to switch and do something crazy. It could be even from the announcement of the electronic items ban on planes, the UK announced yesterday from 6 randomly selected countries for this individual. Fortunately, lone wolves in countries like the US can do major damage with the availability of guns, so the UK is better for that. Yes I think you've summed it up very well. Today is the anniversary of the Brussels terrorist atrocity, whether that was behind it we might never know. |
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Post by YY13VKP on Mar 22, 2017 19:18:13 GMT
Absolutely terrible incident today, my thoughts and prayers are with the families involved.
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Post by snoggle on Mar 22, 2017 19:22:13 GMT
This comes a year to the day after the Brussels atrocity. It would appear to be one individual acting alone and what can realistically be done to prevent such lone wolf attacks? You cant. Clearly these lone wolves are slightly unstable people with probably histories or troubled lives. It takes minimal encouragement for them to switch and do something crazy. It could be even from the announcement of the electronic items ban on planes, the UK announced yesterday from 6 randomly selected countries for this individual. Fortunately, lone wolves in countries like the US can do major damage with the availability of guns, so the UK is better for that. I'm sorry but there are so few established facts about this attack that you can't even say it is a lone wolf attack. It *appears* only one person perpetrated the attack but they may have had other help in the run up to it. We know nothing about mental state, triggers or anything else in this incident. It is also clearly the case that it is not *impossible* to stop such attacks, just more difficult than those where there may be multiple participants. We know the police and security services have prevented many attempts to undertake attacks in the UK. I'm sorry to be a pedant but I don't think it ever helps for people to speculate on events like this. We've no idea what sits behind this attack and we are rarely, if ever, given all the info the police gather about such incidents for obvious security related reasons. |
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Post by sid on Mar 22, 2017 19:29:27 GMT
You cant. Clearly these lone wolves are slightly unstable people with probably histories or troubled lives. It takes minimal encouragement for them to switch and do something crazy. It could be even from the announcement of the electronic items ban on planes, the UK announced yesterday from 6 randomly selected countries for this individual. Fortunately, lone wolves in countries like the US can do major damage with the availability of guns, so the UK is better for that. I'm sorry but there are so few established facts about this attack that you can't even say it is a lone wolf attack. It *appears* only one person perpetrated the attack but they may have had other help in the run up to it. We know nothing about mental state, triggers or anything else in this incident. It is also clearly the case that it is not *impossible* to stop such attacks, just more difficult than those where there may be multiple participants. We know the police and security services have prevented many attempts to undertake attacks in the UK. I'm sorry to be a pedant but I don't think it ever helps for people to speculate on events like this. We've no idea what sits behind this attack and we are rarely, if ever, given all the info the police gather about such incidents for obvious security related reasons. Well I'm afraid speculation like this is inevitable, indeed social media is awash with it, and it will inevitably continue until the full facts are known, if indeed they ever are. It does appear to be a lone wolf attack and I'm afraid that they are virtually impossible to prevent if that individual hasn't told anybody else about their intentions. |
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