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Post by ibus246 on Oct 29, 2022 18:06:32 GMT
That extension to Battersea really surprised me today. I alighted at Kennington expecting to see most of the passengers cross over to the Morden branch but instead it was just a handful. The entire train filled up as well. The new shopping centre clearly has an appeal and it certainly does build a case for the northern line to be extended further south in the near future based on what I saw today. Don’t forget there will be a novelty of a new shopping centre in the early days
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Post by vjaska on Oct 29, 2022 18:55:10 GMT
That extension to Battersea really surprised me today. I alighted at Kennington expecting to see most of the passengers cross over to the Morden branch but instead it was just a handful. The entire train filled up as well. The new shopping centre clearly has an appeal and it certainly does build a case for the northern line to be extended further south in the near future based on what I saw today. TBF, it’s a Saturday - I made the same journey as yourself except during the week recently and most still switched over to the platform for Morden because most want to head southbound rather than towards Battersea Power Station. The shopping centre doesn’t fully open up till January so maybe demand will increase during the week then
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Post by londontravel on Jan 31, 2023 18:27:30 GMT
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Post by abellion on Jan 31, 2023 18:30:25 GMT
This would be nice but realistically there isn’t much point getting excited as it’ll probably take years or decades to come
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Post by wirewiper on Jan 31, 2023 18:35:03 GMT
If the finance were available I would take it on to Wandsworth Town Centre which is poorly served by rail.
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Post by londontravel on Jan 31, 2023 19:38:11 GMT
I think if the Northern Line is extended, it would be the victim of its own success. I think that is one of the reasons TFL said not long ago, about not looking into extending it to Clapham Junction, due to the volume of people that would use it.
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Post by VMH2537 on Jan 31, 2023 20:19:06 GMT
I think if the Northern Line is extended, it would be the victim of its own success. I think that is one of the reasons TFL said not long ago, about not looking into extending it to Clapham Junction, due to the volume of people that would use it. Indeed it was said it would've not happened or being considered until at least Crossrail 2 is built reliving capacity of the line. Sadly it may not be the case for while being in current climates.
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Post by vjaska on Jan 31, 2023 23:41:10 GMT
I think if the Northern Line is extended, it would be the victim of its own success. I think that is one of the reasons TFL said not long ago, about not looking into extending it to Clapham Junction, due to the volume of people that would use it. I thought the issues was Clapham Junction itself being overwhelmed rather than the line which currently has quite a bit of capacity in it's present form - most people will probably stay on mainline trains into Victoria for the faster Victoria Line I'd imagine? South London needs more tube coverage and this is a great idea providing all kinks are ironed out (the biggest being a rebuild of Clapham Junction itself) and I echo wirewiper in that it should at least reach Wandsworth which would bring benefits much further away (great links across South London plus relieving the busy 37)
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Post by southlondon413 on Feb 1, 2023 7:29:36 GMT
I think if the Northern Line is extended, it would be the victim of its own success. I think that is one of the reasons TFL said not long ago, about not looking into extending it to Clapham Junction, due to the volume of people that would use it. I thought the issues was Clapham Junction itself being overwhelmed rather than the line which currently has quite a bit of capacity in it's present form - most people will probably stay on mainline trains into Victoria for the faster Victoria Line I'd imagine? South London needs more tube coverage and this is a great idea providing all kinks are ironed out (the biggest being a rebuild of Clapham Junction itself) and I echo wirewiper in that it should at least reach Wandsworth which would bring benefits much further away (great links across South London plus relieving the busy 37) But aren’t a lot of these commuters heading towards the city? So perhaps it would require a reconfiguration of Kennington to allow direct trains through the Bank branch to avoid the corridors being filled with people changing lines? But it could also be coupled with the proposed and delayed rebuild of Camden Town. Wandsworth would be great and that space where they’ve built the super sewer could be ideal to regenerate with a station and new flats. I would love long term to see an extension further south to Kingston in the future but that’s a pipe dream.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Feb 1, 2023 9:21:57 GMT
I think if the Northern Line is extended, it would be the victim of its own success. I think that is one of the reasons TFL said not long ago, about not looking into extending it to Clapham Junction, due to the volume of people that would use it. I thought the issues was Clapham Junction itself being overwhelmed rather than the line which currently has quite a bit of capacity in it's present form - most people will probably stay on mainline trains into Victoria for the faster Victoria Line I'd imagine? South London needs more tube coverage and this is a great idea providing all kinks are ironed out (the biggest being a rebuild of Clapham Junction itself) and I echo wirewiper in that it should at least reach Wandsworth which would bring benefits much further away (great links across South London plus relieving the busy 37) I believe the line itself has capacity, but there are not enough trains. The Battsersea extension alone seems to have stretched the line to its limits. Although should this extension go ahead, I'd hope they would include a fleet renewal.
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Post by M1104 on Feb 1, 2023 9:42:47 GMT
I thought the issues was Clapham Junction itself being overwhelmed rather than the line which currently has quite a bit of capacity in it's present form - most people will probably stay on mainline trains into Victoria for the faster Victoria Line I'd imagine? South London needs more tube coverage and this is a great idea providing all kinks are ironed out (the biggest being a rebuild of Clapham Junction itself) and I echo wirewiper in that it should at least reach Wandsworth which would bring benefits much further away (great links across South London plus relieving the busy 37) But aren’t a lot of these commuters heading towards the city? So perhaps it would require a reconfiguration of Kennington to allow direct trains through the Bank branch to avoid the corridors being filled with people changing lines? But it could also be coupled with the proposed and delayed rebuild of Camden Town. Wandsworth would be great and that space where they’ve built the super sewer could be ideal to regenerate with a station and new flats. I would love long term to see an extension further south to Kingston in the future but that’s a pipe dream. The issue with reconfiguring Kennington in that fashion is that it would be opposite to what's planned for Camden Town following its rebuild, which is to end crossover¹ services with the Northern split into two separate lines. What could be done with Kennington (if structually possible) is to widen as much of the corridors as possible so as to in effect reconfigure the pair of adjoining platforms into wide island platforms, similar format to stations like Redbridge and Nine Elms. I agree with the Wandsworth idea though a London Underground service to Kingston may be more ideal with the District Line. ¹ - Charing Cross branch to High Barnet/Mill Hill and Bank branch to Edgeware
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Post by londontravel on May 5, 2023 18:53:35 GMT
Issue earlier on at Clapham Common station. Train couldn’t open doors and was filling up with smoke. Staff had to smash windows and passengers were climbing out of the windows to get out.
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Post by southlondon413 on May 5, 2023 18:59:46 GMT
Issue earlier on at Clapham Common station. Train couldn’t open doors and was filling up with smoke. Staff had to smash windows and passengers were climbing out of the windows to get out. Slight correction, staff didn’t smash the windows. There were two men with tools waiting on the platform who smashed the windows. According to several eyewitness reports underground staff were nowhere to be found. The train also reportedly stopped with a few carriages in the tunnel. Just a prime example of where TfLs cost cutting methods have severely damaged the networks viability. I can barely use the tube these days because of the extremely loud braking and overwhelming noise.
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Post by greenboy on May 5, 2023 19:03:32 GMT
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Post by ronnie on May 5, 2023 19:25:50 GMT
Issue earlier on at Clapham Common station. Train couldn’t open doors and was filling up with smoke. Staff had to smash windows and passengers were climbing out of the windows to get out. Slight correction, staff didn’t smash the windows. There were two men with tools waiting on the platform who smashed the windows. According to several eyewitness reports underground staff were nowhere to be found. The train also reportedly stopped with a few carriages in the tunnel. Just a prime example of where TfLs cost cutting methods have severely damaged the networks viability. I can barely use the tube these days because of the extremely loud braking and overwhelming noise. Agree, the screeching is unbearable nowadays. I use the jubilee daily now and the noise frankly is louder than a plane taking off On maintenance - has anyone seen the roads nowadays? Potholes galore. Doesn’t matter which road it is, it’s all very badly maintained. Can’t vouch for other boroughs but Greenwich / lewisham borough roads are awful Try driving in front of Queen Elizabeth Hospital in woolwich. Seems like the surface of the moon!
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