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Post by Busboy105 on Sept 4, 2022 4:56:15 GMT
Heathrow T2&3, T4 and Reading So would that be; 2x Heathrow T2&3, T4 2x Reading Where will the other trains come from that will make up the full Abbey Wood service? I thought all the Abbey Wood trains would continue on to Heathrow/Reading and all the Sheffield trains will terminate at Paddington, the reason being is to give Canary Wharf one seat ride to Heathrow and Berkshire? I think the trains might come from the ones that are probably just sitting around Abbey Wood depot waiting for the full service
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Post by wirewiper on Sept 4, 2022 7:02:59 GMT
In November do we know what services will be available past Paddington from Abbey Wood? Heathrow T2&3, T4 and Reading Also Heathrow Terminal 5 via Terminals 2/3 - there are currently 4 trains per hour to/from Heathrow Terminals 2/3, extended alternately to Terminal 4 and Terminal 5.
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Post by snowman on Sept 4, 2022 7:09:13 GMT
So would that be; 2x Heathrow T2&3, T4 2x Reading Where will the other trains come from that will make up the full Abbey Wood service? I thought all the Abbey Wood trains would continue on to Heathrow/Reading and all the Sheffield trains will terminate at Paddington, the reason being is to give Canary Wharf one seat ride to Heathrow and Berkshire? I think the trains might come from the ones that are probably just sitting around Abbey Wood depot waiting for the full service No not quite, in the initial through timetable from November, only 8 trains continue west (and some skip stops, so some stations don’t even get 8 trains per hour) with 2 each to Reading, Maidenhead, Heathrow T4, Heathrow T5. During the peak the Maidenhead ones get extended to Reading All of these 8 start at Abbey Wood. And to ensure the ones from west go to Abbey Wood they wait upto 7 minutes near Westbourne Park before entering the tunnel. Everything else from tunnel ends at Paddington (actually carries on to Westbourne Park reversing sidings out of service. The off peak timetable is initially 16 trains per hour through tunnel (so Abbey Wood branch gets frequency reduction). peak hour it is 22 trains per hour through central tunnel .
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Post by buspete on Sept 4, 2022 23:08:15 GMT
So are we saying off peak.
2x Heathrow T5 2x Heathrow T4 2x Reading 2x Maidenhead
All from Abbey Wood. Service reduced by 1/3
8x Shenfield - Paddington
So 16 trains in the central core
Have to say though it is disappointing that 24tph cannot run all day? There would be demand for this in the central core.
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Post by ThinLizzy on Sept 5, 2022 21:11:31 GMT
So are we saying off peak. 2x Heathrow T5 2x Heathrow T4 2x Reading 2x Maidenhead All from Abbey Wood. Service reduced by 1/3 8x Shenfield - Paddington So 16 trains in the central core Have to say though it is disappointing that 24tph cannot run all day? There would be demand for this in the central core. there's not really demand for a 24 tph off peak service at the moment
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Post by VMH2537 on Sept 6, 2022 16:20:39 GMT
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 6, 2022 23:56:26 GMT
Not looking forward to it. Even today disruptions were on the Reading - Paddington branch. The Shenfield-Liverpool St hardly has disruption like the western side.
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Post by WH241 on Sept 10, 2022 13:05:13 GMT
First time I have experienced the Elizabeth Line core section being down. Currently a train is broken down at Canary Wharf meaning no service west from Abbey Wood.
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Post by Busboy105 on Sept 10, 2022 18:07:44 GMT
First time I have experienced the Elizabeth Line core section being down. Currently a train is broken down at Canary Wharf meaning no service west from Abbey Wood. Must've been why there was a little delay today. Waited for a couple minutes after Custom House and before Abbey Wood
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Post by WH241 on Sept 10, 2022 19:12:56 GMT
First time I have experienced the Elizabeth Line core section being down. Currently a train is broken down at Canary Wharf meaning no service west from Abbey Wood. Must've been why there was a little delay today. Waited for a couple minutes after Custom House and before Abbey Wood There was no service around 2pm at Custom House. Staff stopped letting passengers down onto the platforms which were already busy. Whilst waiting for a DLR I noticed there was train due from the west that was going to terminate at Custom House but not sure if this was going to head back west or go out of service towards Abbey Wood.
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Post by wirewiper on Sept 27, 2022 8:13:30 GMT
A report has been prepared ahead of the Elizabeth Line Committee meeting on Thursday (29th September). The Good: - Passenger numbers regularly exceed two million per week, which is higher than forecast. - Reliability: the PPM (Public Performance Measure) has remained steadily above 95% since passengers started using the railway. - Train faults: the number of miles before a train has to be taken out of service due to a fault causing a delay of more than three minutes remains above 10,000 - although there are some issues around the maintenance of trains that are taken out of service which are for Alstom and Siemens to address. - Lifts at stations - availability remains above 98% overall although there have been some bad weeks. The Bad: - Rubber seals on door edges are being damaged when passengers try to free trapped luggage - a design modification is in progress. - Signallling and software: two upgrades in July and August have eliminated most of the operational restrictions. A major software upgrade is still required to enable the auto-reverse function at Paddington, without which the planned peak service of 24 trains per hour through the Central Core cannot operate. The upgrade is scheduled for Christmas, and will be given time to bed down before the May 2023 timetable change. The report notes that the second phase of opening, as previously announced, will take place on Sunday 6th November. A Sunday service will be introduced, as well as through running between Reading/Heathrow Airport - Abbey Wood and Paddington - Shenfield. The report notes that the frequency to Abbey Wood will drop from the current every 5 minutes to every 6 at peak times and every 7/8 at off-peak times although the off-peak frequency will be restored to every 6 minutes next May. No date has yet been given for opening Bond Street, although it is expected to be before 6th November. The Crossrail Project currently has a shortfall of £100 million. TfL's funding agreement with the Government is expected to include £50 million towards this, and the Project is in tak=lks with the Greater London Assembly (GLA) to find the other £50 million. TfL expects the Elizabeth Line to break even operationally in 2023/2024, and will eventually generate profit which will pay down the debt on its construction and support other TfL services. Source: www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/elizabeth-line-reveals-optimistic-passenger-numbers-but-also-software-issues-57703/
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 27, 2022 11:19:25 GMT
A report has been prepared ahead of the Elizabeth Line Committee meeting on Thursday (29th September). The Good: - Passenger numbers regularly exceed two million per week, which is higher than forecast. - Reliability: the PPM (Public Performance Measure) has remained steadily above 95% since passengers started using the railway. - Train faults: the number of miles before a train has to be taken out of service due to a fault causing a delay of more than three minutes remains above 10,000 - although there are some issues around the maintenance of trains that are taken out of service which are for Alstom and Siemens to address. - Lifts at stations - availability remains above 98% overall although there have been some bad weeks. The Bad: - Rubber seals on door edges are being damaged when passengers try to free trapped luggage - a design modification is in progress. - Signallling and software: two upgrades in July and August have eliminated most of the operational restrictions. A major software upgrade is still required to enable the auto-reverse function at Paddington, without which the planned peak service of 24 trains per hour through the Central Core cannot operate. The upgrade is scheduled for Christmas, and will be given time to bed down before the May 2023 timetable change. The report notes that the second phase of opening, as previously announced, will take place on Sunday 6th November. A Sunday service will be introduced, as well as through running between Reading/Heathrow Airport - Abbey Wood and Paddington - Shenfield. The report notes that the frequency to Abbey Wood will drop from the current every 5 minutes to every 6 at peak times and every 7/8 at off-peak times although the off-peak frequency will be restored to every 6 minutes next May. No date has yet been given for opening Bond Street, although it is expected to be before 6th November. The Crossrail Project currently has a shortfall of £100 million. TfL's funding agreement with the Government is expected to include £50 million towards this, and the Project is in tak=lks with the Greater London Assembly (GLA) to find the other £50 million. TfL expects the Elizabeth Line to break even operationally in 2023/2024, and will eventually generate profit which will pay down the debt on its construction and support other TfL services. Source: www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/elizabeth-line-reveals-optimistic-passenger-numbers-but-also-software-issues-57703/I still find the problems on the western part far too high. This is one downside that I know would affect the rest of the line and the eastern part which hardly has any problems. I do not think there has been one week without a problem at Hayes & Harlington or Paddington affecting the western part of the line. Sometimes it is every few days there is some kind of signal failure or other problem on that section.
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Post by joefrombow on Sept 27, 2022 14:45:21 GMT
A report has been prepared ahead of the Elizabeth Line Committee meeting on Thursday (29th September). The Good: - Passenger numbers regularly exceed two million per week, which is higher than forecast. - Reliability: the PPM (Public Performance Measure) has remained steadily above 95% since passengers started using the railway. - Train faults: the number of miles before a train has to be taken out of service due to a fault causing a delay of more than three minutes remains above 10,000 - although there are some issues around the maintenance of trains that are taken out of service which are for Alstom and Siemens to address. - Lifts at stations - availability remains above 98% overall although there have been some bad weeks. The Bad: - Rubber seals on door edges are being damaged when passengers try to free trapped luggage - a design modification is in progress. - Signallling and software: two upgrades in July and August have eliminated most of the operational restrictions. A major software upgrade is still required to enable the auto-reverse function at Paddington, without which the planned peak service of 24 trains per hour through the Central Core cannot operate. The upgrade is scheduled for Christmas, and will be given time to bed down before the May 2023 timetable change. The report notes that the second phase of opening, as previously announced, will take place on Sunday 6th November. A Sunday service will be introduced, as well as through running between Reading/Heathrow Airport - Abbey Wood and Paddington - Shenfield. The report notes that the frequency to Abbey Wood will drop from the current every 5 minutes to every 6 at peak times and every 7/8 at off-peak times although the off-peak frequency will be restored to every 6 minutes next May. No date has yet been given for opening Bond Street, although it is expected to be before 6th November. The Crossrail Project currently has a shortfall of £100 million. TfL's funding agreement with the Government is expected to include £50 million towards this, and the Project is in tak=lks with the Greater London Assembly (GLA) to find the other £50 million. TfL expects the Elizabeth Line to break even operationally in 2023/2024, and will eventually generate profit which will pay down the debt on its construction and support other TfL services. Source: www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/elizabeth-line-reveals-optimistic-passenger-numbers-but-also-software-issues-57703/I still find the problems on the western part far too high. This is one downside that I know would affect the rest of the line and the eastern part which hardly has any problems. I do not think there has been one week without a problem at Hayes & Harlington or Paddington affecting the western part of the line. Sometimes it is every few days there is some kind of signal failure or other problem on that section. Just wait until it's connected up to the Great Eastern Mainline literally always some issue 😂😂 but overall I suppose it isn't doing too bad .
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 27, 2022 23:53:27 GMT
I still find the problems on the western part far too high. This is one downside that I know would affect the rest of the line and the eastern part which hardly has any problems. I do not think there has been one week without a problem at Hayes & Harlington or Paddington affecting the western part of the line. Sometimes it is every few days there is some kind of signal failure or other problem on that section. Just wait until it's connected up to the Great Eastern Mainline literally always some issue 😂😂 but overall I suppose it isn't doing too bad . The Great Eastern Mainline hardly has any problems compared to what is happening to the west of London.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 28, 2022 2:28:37 GMT
Just wait until it's connected up to the Great Eastern Mainline literally always some issue 😂😂 but overall I suppose it isn't doing too bad . The Great Eastern Mainline hardly has any problems compared to what is happening to the west of London. Really? It wasn't nicknamed TfL Fail for nothing from people over in East London
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