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Post by ronnie on Jul 4, 2019 2:32:50 GMT
Since the 108 was diverted to Stratford City, it now goes under a low bridge, so even if it’s diverted via the new Silvertown Crossing when it happens, it still can’t take double decks. A possibility to prevent the 108 from going under the low bridge could be to divert via the N205's routeing which I believe is via Warton Road - as you can guess my knowledge of side roads in Bow isn't great It’s indeed Warton road |
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Post by COBO on Jul 18, 2019 19:20:41 GMT
I wonder if the following roads are cleared for double deckers:
Chaplin Road
Currey Road
The Fairway
Castle Road
Dabbs Hill Lane
Haydock Avenue
Southwell Avenue
Newmarket Avenue
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Post by VPL630 on Jul 31, 2019 10:34:15 GMT
We go under the low bridge on Tudor Way on the R7s. I’m not sure I’d fancy taking a decker around Chelsfield either and it’s sometimes a squeeze getting our little buses around the Aquila Estate let alone anything longer! Think we will stick with our little buses 😊 I agree the square in the Aquila restricts the vehicle size to what it is now. I've been doing the Orpington network quite a bit with these long evenings. I did wonder what stops larger vehicles operating on the R5/R10 - I came to the conclusion it was just oncoming traffic. With the R7 and 336 I’ve tried of a few occasions to get 36374 out on the route as it’s blinded and last time I had no option but to swap my bus over due to a baseplate fault, it was parked behind mine on relief but when I got in it and started it up it was evident that it had a major air leak and I wouldn’t be going anywhere. The current vehicles on the R5/10 forcibly stop most of the oncoming traffic, I always disliked taking an MMC on the route as they were wider and the big mirror were a pain as they get knocked all the time |
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Post by Paul on Jul 31, 2019 12:54:16 GMT
I agree the square in the Aquila restricts the vehicle size to what it is now. I've been doing the Orpington network quite a bit with these long evenings. I did wonder what stops larger vehicles operating on the R5/R10 - I came to the conclusion it was just oncoming traffic. With the R7 and 336 I’ve tried of a few occasions to get 36374 out on the route as it’s blinded and last time I had no option but to swap my bus over due to a baseplate fault, it was parked behind mine on relief but when I got in it and started it up it was evident that it had a major air leak and I wouldn’t be going anywhere. The current vehicles on the R5/10 forcibly stop most of the oncoming traffic, I always disliked taking an MMC on the route as they were wider and the big mirror were a pain as they get knocked all the time I tended to find an MMC made people more inclined to stop than with an older E200. I’ve no idea why this was the case - perhaps the MMC simply looks larger? I initially disliked taking an MMC on the 5s/10s but gradually got used to it - d*mn I miss that route 😔 |
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Post by aaron1 on Aug 7, 2019 15:52:15 GMT
Now for decker's on the 316 the best way to do it is to reroute it via Holland Park then reroute the 228 via Latimer Road
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Post by rhys on Aug 7, 2019 15:58:10 GMT
Now for decker's on the 316 the best way to do it is to reroute it via Holland Park then reroute the 228 via Latimer Road Although I've seen some suggest that the 316's double decking hasn't happened owing to residents. I just find it very ironic, considering the 295, a route that uses double deck, shares the exact same roads as the 316, in the Latimer Road area. Perhaps there may be another reasoning as into why the 316 doesn't see double decks apart from carnival days? The route definitely is in dire need for them. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Aug 7, 2019 16:11:12 GMT
Now for decker's on the 316 the best way to do it is to reroute it via Holland Park then reroute the 228 via Latimer Road Although I've seen some suggest that the 316's double decking hasn't happened owing to residents. I just find it very ironic, considering the 295, a route that uses double deck, shares the exact same roads as the 316, in the Latimer Road area. Perhaps there may be another reasoning as into why the 316 doesn't see double decks apart from carnival days? The route definitely is in dire need for them. I think the residents are in fact the reason to blame, however a compromise was reached where the 295 would be allowed to use DD vehicles while the 316 wouldn't. Of course I could just be making this up  |
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Post by redexpress on Aug 7, 2019 20:57:43 GMT
Now for decker's on the 316 the best way to do it is to reroute it via Holland Park then reroute the 228 via Latimer Road Although I've seen some suggest that the 316's double decking hasn't happened owing to residents. I just find it very ironic, considering the 295, a route that uses double deck, shares the exact same roads as the 316, in the Latimer Road area. Perhaps there may be another reasoning as into why the 316 doesn't see double decks apart from carnival days? The route definitely is in dire need for them. It isn't just a "suggestion". When the 316 was extended to White City there was a campaign orchestrated by residents of Royal Crescent who felt that there were already too many buses (295s) down their road. In order to appease these residents, TfL agreed to restrict the 316 to single-deck, as single-deckers were viewed as less obtrusive than double-deckers. This is why, when a DD does appear on the 316 (excluding Carnival days), it has to curtail at North Kensington.
It may seem daft, but that's the way it is. 10 years on, and I'm still having to re-explain this whole thing all the time!
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Post by YY13VKP on Sept 5, 2019 21:46:28 GMT
Any reason why the H25 can't take double deckers? Perhaps once the 285 moves to TF some could appear on the 490 and H25 to relieve capacity issues both routes have especially in the peaks. The only thing that could prevent double deckers from operating on the H25 are low trees between Bedfont Village and Hatton Cross, but DD's appear down those roads on the 203 anyway
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Post by rif153 on Sept 5, 2019 21:57:54 GMT
Any reason why the H25 can't take double deckers? Perhaps once the 285 moves to TF some could appear on the 490 and H25 to relieve capacity issues both routes have especially in the peaks. The only thing that could prevent double deckers from operating on the H25 are low trees between Bedfont Village and Hatton Cross, but DD's appear down those roads on the 203 anyway For a while I've argued that the spare Enviro 400 at BC should move to TF. It could run on the 490 to help with the crush loads during the peaks especially leaving Richmond. |
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Post by COBO on May 28, 2020 17:30:13 GMT
Does the 46 have any restrictions? The 46 goes through of high demand areas like Paddington, St John's Wood, Swiss Cottage, Hampstead, Royal Free Hospital, Hampstead Heath, St Pancras Station, King's Cross and Holborn Circus. I surprised that it's not very busy and doesn't require double decks.
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Post by southlondonbus on May 28, 2020 17:38:15 GMT
I think the bridge on Prince of Wales Road can only take DDs if going under the centre of it in the middle of the road. One solution I thought was to Swap the 46 and 214 routings between Camden Town to allow the 46 to go DD as the 214 can't take them anyways due to Highgate Village.
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Post by wirewiper on May 28, 2020 17:49:18 GMT
I think the bridge on Prince of Wales Road can only take DDs if going under the centre of it in the middle of the road. One solution I thought was to Swap the 46 and 214 routings between Camden Town to allow the 46 to go DD as the 214 can't take them anyways due to Highgate Village. It's an arched bridge, with insufficient clearance at the sides. As mentioned d/d can get under if they stay in the centre of the road (the 46 was d/d until November 1991), but after a diverted 24 hit the bridge a few years back it was decided that the risk of a bridge strike was now too great. |
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Post by COBO on May 28, 2020 18:40:43 GMT
I think the bridge on Prince of Wales Road can only take DDs if going under the centre of it in the middle of the road. One solution I thought was to Swap the 46 and 214 routings between Camden Town to allow the 46 to go DD as the 214 can't take them anyways due to Highgate Village. Swap the 214 and 46 routings between Camden Town and where may I ask? And also When you mean swapping 46 and 214s routing do you mean by sending the 214 to Lancaster Gate via the 46 and sending the 46 to Highgate Village via the 214? |
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Post by southlondonbus on May 28, 2020 19:30:56 GMT
No i simply mean both come down Kentish Town Road, then the 46 would continue to Camden Tn Stn the down Crowndale Road to Kings Cross then the normal route to Barts Hospital. That way the 46 could go DD if need be. The 214 would then peel off just before Camden Town Stn and under the low bridge to Kings Cross then current route to Liverpool Street.
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