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Post by sid on Mar 4, 2018 22:24:15 GMT
I’ve worked with said EM whilst at C, and I remember him saying something about wanting to go back to the Metrobus days with future blinds, when every single route the garage had were on the blinds. The X26 buses only have 293, 405 and X26 on its blindset, but he has overseen the WHV blind change which include a few more routes than they originally had, the 355 and X26 the additions. I haven’t had the chance to go through a WS blindset fully but I believe the blinds contain all single deck routes at C plus the 293. I hope the new blindset that’s due to be fitted on the 434 buses when they are refurbished are blinds that contain all the garage routes, especially since they’ve been straying on double deck routes recently, boy how id love to get one of those blinded for the X26  If the LCD blinds rumoured for the H2/H3 Buses are true, then that’ll solve the whole debate about blinds, especially if these blinds are included on all future vehicles and retrofitted on the existing fleet. But TfL are cash strapped at the moment so I don’t see it happening I live in LCD land and they are not the panacea that many see them as, especially with so much evening and night operation. There were very good reasons why 'traditional' blinds were retained by TfL and Lothian, decided by people who knew a thing or two about bus operation and were persuasive enough to successfully transmit these reasons to the pursestring holders. Sadly, the professionals have gone and we're left with the beancounters, plus the people who'd be as happy selling baked beans if the salary was as good. Route changes don't come thick and fast these days, nor are 'via' blinds used, in which case I'd be more prepared to consider LCD, but even with their 'issues' I believe the current sort of blinds should be kept. Everywhere outside of TfL is LCD/LED land. I'd quite like to see RT's and RF's still running in daily service obviously it isn't going to happen. Blinds look fine on preserved buses but for day to day use they are no longer viable, are you really saying every other bus operator has got it wrong? It does seem that TfL might be finally moving out of the dark ages! |
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Post by busaholic on Mar 4, 2018 22:40:27 GMT
I live in LCD land and they are not the panacea that many see them as, especially with so much evening and night operation. There were very good reasons why 'traditional' blinds were retained by TfL and Lothian, decided by people who knew a thing or two about bus operation and were persuasive enough to successfully transmit these reasons to the pursestring holders. Sadly, the professionals have gone and we're left with the beancounters, plus the people who'd be as happy selling baked beans if the salary was as good. Route changes don't come thick and fast these days, nor are 'via' blinds used, in which case I'd be more prepared to consider LCD, but even with their 'issues' I believe the current sort of blinds should be kept. Everywhere outside of TfL is LCD/LED land. I'd quite like to see RT's and RF's still running in daily service obviously it isn't going to happen. Blinds look fine on preserved buses but for day to day use they are no longer viable, are you really saying every other bus operator has got it wrong? It does seem that TfL might be finally moving out of the dark ages! I'm saying that TfL and Lothian maintained standards that others had lowered: the ending of bus maps is a further example of this. As for TfL 'moving out of the dark ages' I think there's considerable evidence that the movement is the other way, perhaps a metaphor for the country as a whole! it's nowt to do with RFs and RTs, people's basic needs from a bus haven't changed much over the years, and being able to tell where a bus is going is a universal need. I was very sad when the last RM was withdrawn, but I had no doubt it was the correct decision! I was advocating flat fare opo when I worked for LT, and I made myself very unpopular too, and one significant powerful enemy who ensured that I got no further. He's dead now, but his (admittedly excellent) books on various classes of buses live on. |
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Post by sid on Mar 4, 2018 22:50:30 GMT
Everywhere outside of TfL is LCD/LED land. I'd quite like to see RT's and RF's still running in daily service obviously it isn't going to happen. Blinds look fine on preserved buses but for day to day use they are no longer viable, are you really saying every other bus operator has got it wrong? It does seem that TfL might be finally moving out of the dark ages! I'm saying that TfL and Lothian maintained standards that others had lowered: the ending of bus maps is a further example of this. As for TfL 'moving out of the dark ages' I think there's considerable evidence that the movement is the other way, perhaps a metaphor for the country as a whole! it's nowt to do with RFs and RTs, people's basic needs from a bus haven't changed much over the years, and being able to tell where a bus is going is a universal need. I was very sad when the last RM was withdrawn, but I had no doubt it was the correct decision! I was advocating flat fare opo when I worked for LT, and I made myself very unpopular too, and one significant powerful enemy who ensured that I got no further. He's dead now, but his (admittedly excellent) books on various classes of buses live on. I don't disagree about bus maps which many operators still produce but blinds are every bit as outdated as RT's are, 1950s technology. |
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on Mar 6, 2018 22:37:08 GMT
Another one I've thought of: 325. Heaven help me when a non-ENL does end up on the route!
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Post by busoccultation on Mar 6, 2018 22:48:08 GMT
W4 only has used ENN's since it went back to Arriva last month and W6 only has used ENS's since they were entered service a few months ago.
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Post by Red Dragon on Mar 7, 2018 7:49:51 GMT
W4 only has used ENN's since it went back to Arriva last month and W6 only has used ENS's since they were entered service a few months ago. 2ng gen ENs have made the occasional appearance. |
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Post by portman227 on Mar 7, 2018 11:37:17 GMT
433 is always strict with its batch of 12reg E200's.
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Post by vjaska on Mar 7, 2018 12:11:26 GMT
433 is always strict with its batch of 12reg E200's. I thought other Enviro 200's (both old body & MMC) have been out every now & then? |
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Post by YY13VKP on Mar 7, 2018 14:00:04 GMT
433 is always strict with its batch of 12reg E200's. I thought other Enviro 200's (both old body & MMC) have been out every now & then? They do nearly every day, it’s usually an ex 407 bus or a 130 MMC, but there’s even an 8.9m bus appearing on some evenings as subs. |
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Post by portman227 on Mar 7, 2018 19:31:12 GMT
I thought other Enviro 200's (both old body & MMC) have been out every now & then? They do nearly every day, it’s usually an ex 407 bus or a 130 MMC, but there’s even an 8.9m bus appearing on some evenings as subs. 8171 on the route now haha |
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Post by portman227 on Mar 7, 2018 19:32:11 GMT
433 is always strict with its batch of 12reg E200's. I thought other Enviro 200's (both old body & MMC) have been out every now & then? Every now and then yes, but most times it keeps to its allocation unless one of the 12reg breaks down or being stolen by the 407 or 201 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 20:39:50 GMT
Another one I've thought of: 325. Heaven help me when a non-ENL does end up on the route! I have only ever seen 1 odd working in the 8 years Arriva have run the route and that was a route 462 PDL before the route was lost to GAL. |
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Post by 15002 on Mar 7, 2018 20:47:38 GMT
276 and D6 has used nothing but SEs.
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Post by 725DYE on Mar 8, 2018 0:04:23 GMT
166... because only its allocated buses can go on it |
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Post by galwhv69 on May 13, 2018 19:24:06 GMT
H2 and H3 only use Optare Solos. I have never seen anything else on the round since Arriva took over in 2006. Add the 631 to that,solo buses only |
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