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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 12:08:41 GMT
The N11 gets renumbered as an N311 So for some insane reason Liv St to Victoria is 11 / N311 I just cannot see ANY sane reasoning behind that |
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Post by rugbyref on Sept 28, 2018 12:19:46 GMT
So many issues, it is hard to know where to start.
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Post by danorak on Sept 28, 2018 12:21:42 GMT
"Route N11 would be renumbered N311 to better reflect the day service, as it would not run to Oxford Circus."
If I were an insane conspiracy theorist, I'd suggest TfL throw this sort of egregious nonsense in to distract us enthusiasts from the important stuff. But cock-up trumps conspiracy every time.
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Post by rugbyref on Sept 28, 2018 12:22:14 GMT
I used to get the 40 from London Bridge to Aldgate each morning. The suggestion now is to go on 343 via Tower Bridge. Have they not seen the morning queues at Tower Bridge even if the bridge is not being opened?!
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Post by rugbyref on Sept 28, 2018 12:25:54 GMT
Tourists from all over the world know that Route11 takes them between the sights in Central London (buses sent abroad to drum up tourism were blinded for route 11). Who is going to tell them all of an unnecessary switch to 311?
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Post by rugbyref on Sept 28, 2018 12:31:26 GMT
No mention of the evening rush hour from Liverpool Street to London Bridge. Currently 149, 48 and 35 between them struggle to cope with demand. Remove the 48 and just a slight increase in 149 frequency = chaos.
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Post by sid on Sept 28, 2018 12:31:45 GMT
Tourists from all over the world know that Route11 takes them between the sights in Central London (buses sent abroad to drum up tourism were blinded for route 11). Who is going to tell them all of an unnecessary switch to 311? Won't the 11 still run between Victoria and Liverpool Street? |
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Post by stuckonthe486 on Sept 28, 2018 12:34:34 GMT
Some frequency cuts there too, which haven't been previously flagged up. The 53 one - to every eight minutes - will go down like a cup of cold sick. (EDIT: does anyone have a pre-2003 53 timetable at all? Would be useful to compare the frequency through Woolwich before the 453 was carved out of it with what's planned now) I have a summary timetable from the Lewisham Bus Guide from March 2000. (I never threw away those lovely booklets they used to produce) Frequencies in minutes (NOT bph). M-F Sat Sun Early 8 10 15 Peak 6* Daytime 12! 7-8 8 Evening 8 8 8 * Extra buses run from Woolwich to T Square / Oxford Circus ! Buses run every 6 mins from Plumstead to Trafalgar Square Thank you! I seem to remember it being every 3-4 minutes from Woolwich, so that seems to back it up. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 12:35:26 GMT
This consultation is a done deal.
I'm sure even some of you on here who retain any hope if TfL must know or at least fear this by now.
Public transport is not run for the public. It is run for the political wallets that govern everything that constrains our quality of life.
Still, those in charge will get driven to their mansion-like homes in the peaceful green countryside far away from London, in their fancy polluting cars arranging their rounds of golf and their next hunt meeting, whilst the poor sods like us get funnelled down narrow pavements with cyclists bombing past having ejecting yourself from one cattle truck of a bus before trying to squeeze onto another rammed sweat box.
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 28, 2018 12:37:08 GMT
So many issues, it is hard to know where to start. You had better get over them pretty quickly as most if not all are more than likely to be introduced in the new year! |
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Post by sid on Sept 28, 2018 12:44:06 GMT
This consultation is a done deal. I'm sure even some of you on here who retain any hope if TfL must know or at least fear this by now. Public transport is not run for the public. It is run for the political wallets that govern everything that constrains our quality of life. Still, those in charge will get driven to their mansion-like homes in the peaceful green countryside far away from London, in their fancy polluting cars arranging their rounds of golf and their next hunt meeting, whilst the poor sods like us get funnelled down narrow pavements with cyclists bombing past having ejecting yourself from one cattle truck of a bus before trying to squeeze onto another rammed sweat box. That may be so but the fact remains that there has been a considerable drop in bus usage in Central London and it's likely to increase when Crossrail opens. I'm not saying I agree with all these changes but in all honesty I don't think they are that bad. |
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 28, 2018 12:53:01 GMT
Financial implication quoted in consultation
Route 14 and 134 Tottenham Court Road area
£550k saving pa
Routes 9 11 19 22 311 Kings Rd & Piccadilly
£1.45m saving pa, plus £50k extra revenue (the 9 change)
Route 3 and 53 Whitehall and Westminster area
£1m saving pa
Routes 4 172 341 Waterloo and Fleet Street area
£615k saving pa
Routes 59 476 Euston area
£1.2m saving pa ... this seems a bit high to me!
Route 205 Marylebone area
£235k saving pa
Route 171 Kingsway area
£710k saving pa
Routes 67 149 242 Kingsland Road
£1.8m saving pa
Routes 30 40 45 46 76 100 343 388 RV1 Blackfriars and London Bridge
£2.065m saving pa
Routes 26 48 55 London Bridge & Hackney Road
£2.662m saving pa
Route 271 (nights) Holloway Road
£190k saving pa
Total Savings nearly £12.5m pa
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 12:53:06 GMT
This consultation is a done deal. I'm sure even some of you on here who retain any hope if TfL must know or at least fear this by now. Public transport is not run for the public. It is run for the political wallets that govern everything that constrains our quality of life. Still, those in charge will get driven to their mansion-like homes in the peaceful green countryside far away from London, in their fancy polluting cars arranging their rounds of golf and their next hunt meeting, whilst the poor sods like us get funnelled down narrow pavements with cyclists bombing past having ejecting yourself from one cattle truck of a bus before trying to squeeze onto another rammed sweat box. That may be so but the fact remains that there has been a considerable drop in bus usage in Central London and it's likely to increase when Crossrail opens. I'm not saying I agree with all these changes but in all honesty I don't think they are that bad. Strangely enough I agree with most of these too, even the 11. The majority of buses in Central London ARE reasonably empty most of the time. I do feel these changes could have been handled better however.
I feel most sorry for the tourists who are going to be completely befuddled by these changes as the only maps and publicity available are horribly out of date already.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 28, 2018 13:13:01 GMT
Meanwhile the consultation has mysteriously vanished.
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Post by Nathan on Sept 28, 2018 13:19:35 GMT
This consultation is a done deal. I'm sure even some of you on here who retain any hope if TfL must know or at least fear this by now. Public transport is not run for the public. It is run for the political wallets that govern everything that constrains our quality of life. Still, those in charge will get driven to their mansion-like homes in the peaceful green countryside far away from London, in their fancy polluting cars arranging their rounds of golf and their next hunt meeting, whilst the poor sods like us get funnelled down narrow pavements with cyclists bombing past having ejecting yourself from one cattle truck of a bus before trying to squeeze onto another rammed sweat box. Lol who hurt you? 😂 |
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