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Post by thebusguy on Feb 17, 2019 13:40:58 GMT
Hi guys, I’m working on a page for COBO ‘s Wikia. I’m making a page on bus route records. As of the 17/2/2019, which company has the most routes? Many thanks, thebusguy |
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Post by M1104 on Feb 17, 2019 13:51:29 GMT
Hi guys, I’m working on a page for COBO ‘s Wikia. I’m making a page on bus route records. As of the 17/2/2019, which company has the most routes? Many thanks, thebusguy Great source of information on that here www.londonbusroutes.net |
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Post by WSD3 on Feb 17, 2019 13:54:55 GMT
Hi guys, I’m working on a page for COBO ‘s Wikia. I’m making a page on bus route records. As of the 17/2/2019, which company has the most routes? Many thanks, thebusguy does this include school routes and night buses. |
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Post by WSD3 on Feb 17, 2019 13:59:35 GMT
abellio has 52 routes
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 14:01:02 GMT
Almost certainly Go Ahead!
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Post by VWH1414 on Feb 17, 2019 15:26:59 GMT
Go Ahead looks to be first (Has 24.07% of the network currently - That isn't even including all those routes they've won that will commence in the coming months!)
This is followed by the rest, in order:
Arriva - 18.17%
Metroline - 18.03%
Stagecoach - 12.96%
RATP - 12.21%
Abellio - 7.76%
Tower Transit - 4.07%
CT Plus - 1.57%
Sullivan Buses - 0.73%
Notice the large gap between GAL and other operators, Arriva and Metroline being almost neck and neck at 18, which is roughly 7% less than what GAL will soon be. Looks like RATP will also take 4th place soon, over taking Stagecoach, once Stagecoach loses the 158/262/473 and any others that are going to other companies. GAL will almost certainly go over the 25% mark soon, with the 197, 208, 209, 214, 227, 232, 396, 663. I don't know about anyone else, but Go Ahead constantly winning routes is getting very boring and repetitive for me.
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Post by galwhv69 on Feb 17, 2019 16:40:32 GMT
What percentage is 1 route  Uno with the 383 are a London operator technically! |
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Post by WSD3 on Feb 17, 2019 16:46:16 GMT
What percentage is 1 route Uno with the 383 are a London operator technically! the percentage is 0.04% |
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Post by galwhv69 on Feb 17, 2019 16:48:38 GMT
What percentage is 1 route Uno with the 383 are a London operator technically! the percentage is 0.04% Thanks  So Uno have 0.04% of the London bus network |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 16:49:59 GMT
Go Ahead looks to be first (Has 24.07% of the network currently - That isn't even including all those routes they've won that will commence in the coming months!) This is followed by the rest, in order: Arriva - 18.17% Metroline - 18.03% Stagecoach - 12.96% RATP - 12.21% Abellio - 7.76% Tower Transit - 4.07% CT Plus - 1.57% Sullivan Buses - 0.73% Notice the large gap between GAL and other operators, Arriva and Metroline being almost neck and neck at 18, which is roughly 7% less than what GAL will soon be. Looks like RATP will also take 4th place soon, over taking Stagecoach, once Stagecoach loses the 158/262/473 and any others that are going to other companies. GAL will almost certainly go over the 25% mark soon, with the 197, 208, 209, 214, 227, 232, 396, 663. I don't know about anyone else, but Go Ahead constantly winning routes is getting very boring and repetitive for me. Go Ahead have bases in all parts of London apart from West / North West. Now they have been increasing their non TfL work in West London. Their dominance is South London is rather dull. Metroline will likely be in second place soon, at Arriva’s expense. |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 17, 2019 16:56:47 GMT
Go Ahead looks to be first (Has 24.07% of the network currently - That isn't even including all those routes they've won that will commence in the coming months!) This is followed by the rest, in order: Arriva - 18.17% Metroline - 18.03% Stagecoach - 12.96% RATP - 12.21% Abellio - 7.76% Tower Transit - 4.07% CT Plus - 1.57% Sullivan Buses - 0.73% Notice the large gap between GAL and other operators, Arriva and Metroline being almost neck and neck at 18, which is roughly 7% less than what GAL will soon be. Looks like RATP will also take 4th place soon, over taking Stagecoach, once Stagecoach loses the 158/262/473 and any others that are going to other companies. GAL will almost certainly go over the 25% mark soon, with the 197, 208, 209, 214, 227, 232, 396, 663. I don't know about anyone else, but Go Ahead constantly winning routes is getting very boring and repetitive for me. Go Ahead have bases in all parts of London apart from West / North West. Now they have been increasing their non TfL work in West London. Their dominance is South London is rather dull. Metroline will likely be in second place soon, at Arriva’s expense. Without wishing to reopen the debate, we could say the same about Metroline dominance across North West London. Go-Ahead’s dominance is more so in South West London as South London has Abellio & Arriva whilst Stagecoach have faired better in South East London compared to East London. |
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Post by SILENCED on Feb 17, 2019 17:26:40 GMT
What percentage is 1 route Uno with the 383 are a London operator technically! Those percentages are a % of total pvr, not % of routes |
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Post by VWH1414 on Feb 17, 2019 17:41:28 GMT
Go Ahead looks to be first (Has 24.07% of the network currently - That isn't even including all those routes they've won that will commence in the coming months!) This is followed by the rest, in order: Arriva - 18.17% Metroline - 18.03% Stagecoach - 12.96% RATP - 12.21% Abellio - 7.76% Tower Transit - 4.07% CT Plus - 1.57% Sullivan Buses - 0.73% Notice the large gap between GAL and other operators, Arriva and Metroline being almost neck and neck at 18, which is roughly 7% less than what GAL will soon be. Looks like RATP will also take 4th place soon, over taking Stagecoach, once Stagecoach loses the 158/262/473 and any others that are going to other companies. GAL will almost certainly go over the 25% mark soon, with the 197, 208, 209, 214, 227, 232, 396, 663. I don't know about anyone else, but Go Ahead constantly winning routes is getting very boring and repetitive for me. Go Ahead have bases in all parts of London apart from West / North West. Now they have been increasing their non TfL work in West London. Their dominance is South London is rather dull. Metroline will likely be in second place soon, at Arriva’s expense. Unlikely, Metroline are due to lose the 207, 209, 214, 232, 395 and are due to gain the 81, 317, 393, H13, overall it balances out, if not the percentage will go down (81 replaces 209, 393 replaces 214, H13 replaces 395, 317 partially replaces the 232 and the 207 is straight lost without replacement). Arriva however is due to gain the 158 and is to lose the 128 & 197 (158 and 128 should probably cancel each other out), so therefore both Metroline and Arriva are in the same boat in the fact they are probably going to see a small decrease in percentage, I doubt Metroline will overtake Arriva anytime soon, although both are so close together they commonly swap, as I know Metroline was 2nd at one point, before it saw lots of losses. |
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Post by VWH1414 on Feb 17, 2019 17:55:51 GMT
Go Ahead have bases in all parts of London apart from West / North West. Now they have been increasing their non TfL work in West London. Their dominance is South London is rather dull. Metroline will likely be in second place soon, at Arriva’s expense. Without wishing to reopen the debate, we could say the same about Metroline dominance across North West London. Go-Ahead’s dominance is more so in South West London as South London has Abellio & Arriva whilst Stagecoach have faired better in South East London compared to East London. I think most of the main operators have a place of dominance: Metroline is NW London (Excluding Harrow/Wembley where RATP is actually more dominant in some areas, especially Harrow) Arriva is NE London (Tottenham/Wood Green etc) and also SE London GAL is South West London, and to some extent Central London SLN is East London RATP is West London Most of this just stems from what they happened to buy, e.g. Metroline started off with EW, W, AC and I think also HD, and that was when privatised in 1989, and has since been lucky in the fact it has had many operators sell up in the same area (MTL London - HT, PB & KC, Thorpes - PA and the now closed NW, Armchair - AH, First - G, WJ, UX, ON and the now closed HZ), similar situation for RATP in west London as the original London United when privatised gained a fair few garages in the area, backed up by the acquistion of Westlink in 1995, and the more recent acquistion of NCP in 2009. Again Stagecoach were lucky with this in the fact they got a lot of the East London garages and Arriva also with the fact they got all of AE, CT, SF, WN, EC, E, AR, WN and AD in a a fairly close area of NE London, and DX, DT and GY again in a similar area to each other. |
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Post by galwhv69 on Feb 17, 2019 20:06:34 GMT
What percentage is 1 route Uno with the 383 are a London operator technically! Those percentages are a % of total pvr, not % of routes Oh,didn't realize,thanks |
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