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Post by bottomless on Feb 25, 2019 1:18:32 GMT
If space needed during works then possibly the car park at the back of the station could be repurposed during the reconstruction, not station car park but council run.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2019 15:31:33 GMT
If space needed during works then possibly the car park at the back of the station could be repurposed during the reconstruction, not station car park but council run. That car park would need to have a major redesign to make a suitable entrance for buses including a resurface. Considering the council tried to sell the land a few years to a developer to build a school I think its highly unlikely they will want to invest money in it. If anything terminating routes will just finish on Wood Street outside John Lewis and will temporarily exclude Cromwell Road as they have done in the past. Through routes are likely just to skip the stops temporarily. If this happens, I would expect TfL would want a quick turnaround to avoid lengthy delays like at West Croydon. |
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Post by Frenzie on Feb 25, 2019 18:04:49 GMT
I heard that they were going to make a mega bus station at the Cattle Market car park (near Fairfield bus station) where all the routes going to kingston terminate. I’m guessing this isn’t happening anymore.
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Post by beaver14uk on Mar 2, 2019 16:33:58 GMT
They are public toilets The toilets here are not public |
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Post by beaver14uk on Mar 2, 2019 16:39:37 GMT
I haven't seen the plans in a while but the driving force was to increase the passenger circulation areas as it gets very congested. Hence the reversing bays will be moved back slightly. I think additional accessible bays will be added at either end.
It was looked at to do away with the reversing bays but loosing so much capacity is not viable.
All in all may not even happen because of costs.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 16:42:43 GMT
They are public toilets The toilets here are not public Are you sure? I thought staff only, with locks on them |
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Post by snoggle on Mar 2, 2019 16:49:19 GMT
Are you sure? I thought staff only, with locks on them I'm sure he's sure given his job! I've used those loos because I was cross legged while waiting for a 216. In the end I missed the 216 but was no longer cross legged.  I didn't have to ask permission to use the loos. |
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Post by redexpress on Mar 2, 2019 19:57:27 GMT
Are you sure? I thought staff only, with locks on them They are open to the public during the daytime. After about 5pm they become private, with keypad locks for drivers and other staff. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 20:47:35 GMT
Are you sure? I thought staff only, with locks on them I'm sure he's sure given his job! I've used those loos because I was cross legged while waiting for a 216. In the end I missed the 216 but was no longer cross legged. I didn't have to ask permission to use the loos. I think you made the right call there. |
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Post by beaver14uk on Mar 3, 2019 21:27:10 GMT
Yes I am sure from when I managed Kingston. Toilets would be put on code for drivers only when the BSC finishes around 21:30. quote author="@rgd976" source="/post/484591/thread" timestamp="1551544963"] Are you sure? I thought staff only, with locks on them [/quote] |
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Post by thelondonthing on Apr 10, 2019 0:33:49 GMT
Kingston Council has approved the planned demolition and redevelopment of Cromwell Road Bus Station, as of 1 March 2019. The permit approving the proposed works can be found here (links to PDF document). It appears that the project has been approved more or less as planned, with the planning officer requesting only a few minor changes, such as revised polycarbonate canopy panels, and improved access to the rooftop for maintenance purposes. |
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Post by thelondonthing on Feb 2, 2020 22:54:57 GMT
You would be forgiven for thinking - as I did - that TfL had dropped its plans for Cromwell Road Bus Station. Out of bored curiosity, I took another look today at Kingston Council's planning department website to see if anything new might have popped up. As mentioned in my post from last year (above), Kingston Council granted permission on 28 February 2019 for the demolition of the bus station, and replacement with a newly designed bus station in its place - but that permission was granted subjected to various conditions. However, things have been a bit quiet since then (to say nothing of the fact that the bus station is still there...), so one could hardly be blamed for assuming that it's all been quietly forgotten about. But on 18 December 2019, TfL submitted a fresh set of documents to Kingston Council in order to satisfy one of the conditions specified in the planning permission. This documentation is fatally dull to read (it relates to the 'drainage strategy' for the construction site) - but the good news is we can safely ignore its content. The reason this documentation matters is it shows that TfL is still actively pursuing its plan for Cromwell Road Bus Station. TfL already has the planning permission it needs from Kingston Council; it only has to address the remaining conditions of that permit before it's able to put its plans into action. Its latest submission to the council was just a few weeks ago, so it's clearly still moving forward with the project. But the big question remains: When will it actually happen? |
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Post by southlondonbus on Feb 2, 2020 22:59:21 GMT
Is there any particular reason why it needs demolishing. I know the stands are not very wheelchair friends but that could easily be remedied by the routes picking up at the stops along the road where the passing routes stop.
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Post by vjaska on Feb 2, 2020 23:55:26 GMT
Is there any particular reason why it needs demolishing. I know the stands are not very wheelchair friends but that could easily be remedied by the routes picking up at the stops along the road where the passing routes stop. One of the posts above refers to "increasing the passenger circulation areas as it gets very congested" so it could be why it's happening? The problem with moving the first stop from the stands to Cromwell Road is the lack of available room at the stops there which are already oversubscribed by other routes - other posts above refer to buses queuing to access the stops blocking traffic further behind. Not only that but having to stop at those stops for buses heading towards Kingston Bridge would lengthen their journey times as they would have to effectively do a complete loop of the one way system. |
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Post by redexpress on Feb 3, 2020 6:53:43 GMT
Is there any particular reason why it needs demolishing. I know the stands are not very wheelchair friends but that could easily be remedied by the routes picking up at the stops along the road where the passing routes stop. There is already a wheelchair-friendly stop on the exit from the sawtooth stands, served on request if a wheelchair user wants to board one of the affected routes. So there's no need for buses to pick up on Cromwell Road. |
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I didn't have to ask permission to use the loos.
