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Post by busaholic on Mar 3, 2019 18:06:38 GMT
What is your definition of a bus station? Somewhere like Victoria or Turnpike Lane where you have designated bus stands under cover, or places like Golders Green Station where they park in the open? I don't think the bus stands have to be undercover for it to be a bus station. I would call a piece of land which is a dedicated bus terminus/has infrastructure provisions for buses to call at. I wouldn't say the 81 starts at Hounslow Bus Station because the first stop on the route isn't in Hounslow Bus Station. Its not always black and white but here's a list I've made: Peckham Edmonton Green Tottenham Hale London Bridge Turnpike Lane Slough Kingston (Cromwell Road and Fairfield) Harrow Stratford (Broadway and City) Brent Cross Golders Green Chingford Edgware Watford Junction Finsbury Park (Blackstock Road and Wells Terrace) Vauxhall Hammersmith (Upper and Lower) Euston White City Staines Richmond Walthamstow Central Hounslow St James's Street Heathrow (Central and T5) Waltham Cross Canning Town Liverpool Street Putney Bridge Aldgate One's I don't think count: Ealing Hospital Uxbridge Lewisham Station Romford Station Clapham Junction What about Eltham Station? Don't agree with Finsbury Park either.
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Post by rif153 on Mar 3, 2019 18:09:09 GMT
Its not always black and white but here's a list I've made: Peckham Edmonton Green Tottenham Hale London Bridge Turnpike Lane Slough Kingston (Cromwell Road and Fairfield) Harrow Stratford (Broadway and City) Brent Cross Golders Green Chingford Edgware Watford Junction Finsbury Park (Blackstock Road and Wells Terrace) Vauxhall Hammersmith (Upper and Lower) Euston White City Staines Richmond Walthamstow Central Hounslow St James's Street Heathrow (Central and T5) Waltham Cross Canning Town Liverpool Street Putney Bridge Aldgate One's I don't think count: Ealing Hospital Uxbridge Lewisham Station Romford Station Clapham Junction Do Addington Village Interchange and Hatton Cross qualify or not? They both do
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Post by rif153 on Mar 3, 2019 18:10:28 GMT
I don't think the bus stands have to be undercover for it to be a bus station. I would call a piece of land which is a dedicated bus terminus/has infrastructure provisions for buses to call at. I wouldn't say the 81 starts at Hounslow Bus Station because the first stop on the route isn't in Hounslow Bus Station. Its not always black and white but here's a list I've made: Peckham Edmonton Green Tottenham Hale London Bridge Turnpike Lane Slough Kingston (Cromwell Road and Fairfield) Harrow Stratford (Broadway and City) Brent Cross Golders Green Chingford Edgware Watford Junction Finsbury Park (Blackstock Road and Wells Terrace) Vauxhall Hammersmith (Upper and Lower) Euston White City Staines Richmond Walthamstow Central Hounslow St James's Street Heathrow (Central and T5) Waltham Cross Canning Town Liverpool Street Putney Bridge Aldgate One's I don't think count: Ealing Hospital Uxbridge Lewisham Station Romford Station Clapham Junction What about Eltham Station? Don't agree with Finsbury Park either. Eltham Station counts. Why don't you agree with Finsbury Park being on there?
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Post by COBO on Mar 3, 2019 18:12:34 GMT
What is your definition of a bus station? Somewhere like Victoria or Turnpike Lane where you have designated bus stands under cover, or places like Golders Green Station where they park in the open? I don't think the bus stands have to be undercover for it to be a bus station. I would call a piece of land which is a dedicated bus terminus/has infrastructure provisions for buses to call at. I wouldn't say the 81 starts at Hounslow Bus Station because the first stop on the route isn't in Hounslow Bus Station. Its not always black and white but here's a list I've made: Peckham Edmonton Green Tottenham Hale London Bridge Turnpike Lane Slough Kingston (Cromwell Road and Fairfield) Harrow Stratford (Broadway and City) Brent Cross Golders Green Chingford Edgware Watford Junction Finsbury Park (Blackstock Road and Wells Terrace) Vauxhall Hammersmith (Upper and Lower) Euston White City Staines Richmond Walthamstow Central Hounslow St James's Street Heathrow (Central and T5) Waltham Cross Canning Town Liverpool Street Putney Bridge Aldgate One's I don't think count: Ealing Hospital Uxbridge Lewisham Station Romford Station Clapham Junction How doesn’t Uxbridge or Ealing Hospital count?
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Post by busaholic on Mar 3, 2019 18:19:56 GMT
What about Eltham Station? Don't agree with Finsbury Park either. Eltham Station counts. Why don't you agree with Finsbury Park being on there? I know why all the terminating routes at Finsbury Park can't be together, but even allowing for that, I'm not convinced that current arrangements are the best they could be, though they're certainly better for the 19 and 236 than they were for decades, for passengers at least: Plimsoll Road terminus was the site of a well-used staff canteen. i'll qualify my remark by amending it to not thinking Wells Terrace counts as a bus station.
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Post by rif153 on Mar 3, 2019 18:22:50 GMT
I don't think the bus stands have to be undercover for it to be a bus station. I would call a piece of land which is a dedicated bus terminus/has infrastructure provisions for buses to call at. I wouldn't say the 81 starts at Hounslow Bus Station because the first stop on the route isn't in Hounslow Bus Station. Its not always black and white but here's a list I've made: Peckham Edmonton Green Tottenham Hale London Bridge Turnpike Lane Slough Kingston (Cromwell Road and Fairfield) Harrow Stratford (Broadway and City) Brent Cross Golders Green Chingford Edgware Watford Junction Finsbury Park (Blackstock Road and Wells Terrace) Vauxhall Hammersmith (Upper and Lower) Euston White City Staines Richmond Walthamstow Central Hounslow St James's Street Heathrow (Central and T5) Waltham Cross Canning Town Liverpool Street Putney Bridge Aldgate One's I don't think count: Ealing Hospital Uxbridge Lewisham Station Romford Station Clapham Junction How doesn’t Uxbridge or Ealing Hospital count? On Bakers Road, all you have is a few bus stops on the pavement. In my opinion this shouldn't count because I view a bus station as a purpose built pick up and drop off point. Bakers Road doesn't fit this bill, all it is is a few stops on the pavement for passengers to board at. If you were counting Uxbridge, surely you would have to count Waterloo, Tenison Way seeing as that is a set of stops on a pavement. Ealing Hospital is just a set of stands for the 92, 282 and 483 I would say its a bus station in its own right. As a local, Ealing Hospital has never struck me as a bus station becaue to me it always felt like stand space convinently positioned for the hospital. Ealing Hospital is certianly a hard one to call though.
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Post by ibus246 on Mar 3, 2019 18:36:25 GMT
What is your definition of a bus station? Somewhere like Victoria or Turnpike Lane where you have designated bus stands under cover, or places like Golders Green Station where they park in the open? I don't think the bus stands have to be undercover for it to be a bus station. I would call a piece of land which is a dedicated bus terminus/has infrastructure provisions for buses to call at. I wouldn't say the 81 starts at Hounslow Bus Station because the first stop on the route isn't in Hounslow Bus Station. Its not always black and white but here's a list I've made: Peckham Edmonton Green Tottenham Hale London Bridge Turnpike Lane Slough Kingston (Cromwell Road and Fairfield) Harrow Stratford (Broadway and City) Brent Cross Golders Green Chingford Edgware Watford Junction Finsbury Park (Blackstock Road and Wells Terrace) Vauxhall Hammersmith (Upper and Lower) Euston White City Staines Richmond Walthamstow Central Hounslow St James's Street Heathrow (Central and T5) Waltham Cross Canning Town Liverpool Street Putney Bridge Aldgate One's I don't think count: Ealing Hospital Uxbridge Lewisham Station Romford Station Clapham Junction Mortlake(!)
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Post by COBO on Mar 3, 2019 18:38:27 GMT
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Post by rif153 on Mar 3, 2019 18:41:15 GMT
I don't think the bus stands have to be undercover for it to be a bus station. I would call a piece of land which is a dedicated bus terminus/has infrastructure provisions for buses to call at. I wouldn't say the 81 starts at Hounslow Bus Station because the first stop on the route isn't in Hounslow Bus Station. Its not always black and white but here's a list I've made: Peckham Edmonton Green Tottenham Hale London Bridge Turnpike Lane Slough Kingston (Cromwell Road and Fairfield) Harrow Stratford (Broadway and City) Brent Cross Golders Green Chingford Edgware Watford Junction Finsbury Park (Blackstock Road and Wells Terrace) Vauxhall Hammersmith (Upper and Lower) Euston White City Staines Richmond Walthamstow Central Hounslow St James's Street Heathrow (Central and T5) Waltham Cross Canning Town Liverpool Street Putney Bridge Aldgate One's I don't think count: Ealing Hospital Uxbridge Lewisham Station Romford Station Clapham Junction Mortlake(!) Not a chance. Mortlake 'Bus Station' just overglorifies the turning circle for the 209 and 609. Whilst it is a designated piece of land for buses to stand on, I think it is far too small to be considered a bus station seeing as it only has one stop and one route.
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Post by galwhv69 on Mar 3, 2019 18:43:36 GMT
Crystal Palace & West Croydon Morden too Orpington aswell
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Post by busman on Mar 3, 2019 19:07:46 GMT
Back in the day, we had proper bus maps with all bus stations marked with a “B” in a red circle *sigh*.
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Post by vjaska on Mar 3, 2019 19:08:13 GMT
I don't think the bus stands have to be undercover for it to be a bus station. I would call a piece of land which is a dedicated bus terminus/has infrastructure provisions for buses to call at. I wouldn't say the 81 starts at Hounslow Bus Station because the first stop on the route isn't in Hounslow Bus Station. Its not always black and white but here's a list I've made: Peckham Edmonton Green Tottenham Hale London Bridge Turnpike Lane Slough Kingston (Cromwell Road and Fairfield) Harrow Stratford (Broadway and City) Brent Cross Golders Green Chingford Edgware Watford Junction Finsbury Park (Blackstock Road and Wells Terrace) Vauxhall Hammersmith (Upper and Lower) Euston White City Staines Richmond Walthamstow Central Hounslow St James's Street Heathrow (Central and T5) Waltham Cross Canning Town Liverpool Street Putney Bridge Aldgate One's I don't think count: Ealing Hospital Uxbridge Lewisham Station Romford Station Clapham Junction How doesn’t Uxbridge or Ealing Hospital count? Uxbridge is not a bus station - bus stations are private land generally not owned by the council and Bakers Road is a public road maintained by Hillingdon.
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Post by COBO on Mar 3, 2019 19:23:39 GMT
How doesn’t Uxbridge or Ealing Hospital count? Uxbridge is not a bus station - bus stations are private land generally not owned by the council and Bakers Road is a public road maintained by Hillingdon. Okay then Uxbridge is not a Bus Station.
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Post by beaver14uk on Mar 3, 2019 21:14:39 GMT
Route 149 quote author=" COBO" source="/post/484881/thread" timestamp="1551641019"] Uxbridge is not a bus station - bus stations are private land generally not owned by the council and Bakers Road is a public road maintained by Hillingdon. Okay then Uxbridge is not a Bus Station. [/quote]
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Post by beaver14uk on Mar 3, 2019 21:22:09 GMT
TfL only regard a bus station as staffed, there are 29 of them.
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