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Post by kmkcheng on Dec 17, 2019 14:03:21 GMT
It’s quite a common occurrence outside of London for a route to encounter two different routes with the same number as local town services tend to use lower numbers so a longer distance route that connects a number of towns will encounter routes with the same number. For example, the 500 that runs between Watford and Aylesbury encounters a routes 8 and 10 in both towns. Doesn’t happen much in London really due to small number of cross boundary routes now. The only other one I can think of in London is the 167 which encounters the TfL 66 at Gants Hill and Herts/Essex 66 at Loughton and Debden Until recently there was a 324 in Watford, close to the TFL 324 in Stanmore. And the 142 would have encountered both |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 16:07:35 GMT
Until recently there was a 324 in Watford, close to the TFL 324 in Stanmore. And the 142 would have encountered both I wonder if tfl route 203 customers get their hopes up when they see a national Express route 203 sail past Hatton Cross Bus Station. |
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Post by redexpress on Dec 17, 2019 21:15:35 GMT
I've just realised, this means there will be two different 3's at both ends of the 358 in both Crystal Palace and Orpington now. Will that not confuse someone? It’s quite a common occurrence outside of London for a route to encounter two different routes with the same number as local town services tend to use lower numbers so a longer distance route that connects a number of towns will encounter routes with the same number. For example, the 500 that runs between Watford and Aylesbury encounters a routes 8 and 10 in both towns. Doesn’t happen much in London really due to small number of cross boundary routes now. The only other one I can think of in London is the 167 which encounters the TfL 66 at Gants Hill and Herts/Essex 66 at Loughton and Debden When First were running their N7 into Heathrow, it was linked to the TfL N7 by both 105 and 140. I once managed to travel on both N7s in the same night as a result.
Stretching it a bit, if the TfL 10 was still running it'd be linked to Courtney's route 10 by the N9.
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Post by londonboy71 on Dec 20, 2019 19:50:23 GMT
I think they avoided 'O' because it could be mistaken for the number '0', so they decided to stick with 'R'. Also, one anomaly is the 'E' network. All routes serve Greenford, apart from the E8. Whereas, in Ealing Broadway (the area the network is named after), the E3, E5, E6 do not serve it. I think 'G' would fit this network more. I guess 'E' refers to the borough rather than just the area.
The use of 'W' is another odd one. Several routes have no connection to anywhere beginning with 'W', e.g. W5, W6 etc.
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Post by redexpress on Dec 20, 2019 20:10:12 GMT
I guess 'E' refers to the borough rather than just the area.
The use of 'W' is another odd one. Several routes have no connection to anywhere beginning with 'W', e.g. W5, W6 etc.
WOOD GREEN? The routes that I mentioned do not serve Wood Green. Nor do the W7, W8, W9 or W10. The W9 does serve Winchmore Hill but I think that's the only W you'll find along routes W5-W10. |
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Post by busaholic on Dec 21, 2019 0:01:10 GMT
The routes that I mentioned do not serve Wood Green. Nor do the W7, W8, W9 or W10. The W9 does serve Winchmore Hill but I think that's the only W you'll find along routes W5-W10. The W in the flat fare routes W1-W6 introduced in September 1968 definitely stood for Wood Green, with WN operating all the routes, and W7.W8 and W9 which soon followed, though not operated by WN or passing through that area still alluded to Wood Green. On the other hand, the W21 which started on the same day was a circular service from the new Victoria Line station at Walthamstow Central, and THAT W meant Wathamstow: presumably numbers up to W20 were reserved for further routes in Wood Green and its surrounding area. Mention of Orpington R2 route caused me to look up original flat fare route proposals from c50 years ago, and the R2 was going to be a circular route from Romford Market via Collier Row and Chase Cross back to Romford, operating in both directions. No guessing what the R referred to! The scheme was never implemented because of lack of stand space in central Romford then. |
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Post by thesquirrels on Dec 21, 2019 13:12:37 GMT
I've just realised, this means there will be two different 3's at both ends of the 358 in both Crystal Palace and Orpington now. Will that not confuse someone? It’s quite a common occurrence outside of London for a route to encounter two different routes with the same number as local town services tend to use lower numbers so a longer distance route that connects a number of towns will encounter routes with the same number. For example, the 500 that runs between Watford and Aylesbury encounters a routes 8 and 10 in both towns. Doesn’t happen much in London really due to small number of cross boundary routes now. The only other one I can think of in London is the 167 which encounters the TfL 66 at Gants Hill and Herts/Essex 66 at Loughton and Debden The 66 also plugs into the 370 at Romford - ride that to its Essex terminus at Lakeside and you can change onto Ensign's 66 to Chadwell! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 13:34:06 GMT
Did this service get cut then? All of the information regarding the route has vanished from Go Coach’s website.
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Post by galwhv69 on Jan 13, 2021 14:12:57 GMT
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Post by buspete on Jan 13, 2021 17:17:24 GMT
Buses around the Sevonoaks area have been hammered.I seem to remember Otford having 3 bph, now it has 3 bps. The difference is night and day.
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Post by wirewiper on Jan 13, 2021 17:52:38 GMT
Buses around the Sevonoaks area have been hammered.I seem to remember Otford having 3 bph, now it has 3 bps. The difference is night and day. Aren't most of the routes around Sevenoaks now being covered by go2, Go-coach's demand-responsive service? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 18:45:20 GMT
Buses around the Sevonoaks area have been hammered.I seem to remember Otford having 3 bph, now it has 3 bps. The difference is night and day. Aren't most of the routes around Sevenoaks now being covered by go2, Go-coach's demand-responsive service? I tried to use that last year from Otford to Eynsford. It only gave me the option of waiting three hours for the service 2 (old 421). Haven't used it since. |
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Post by vjaska on Jan 13, 2021 20:09:06 GMT
Buses around the Sevonoaks area have been hammered.I seem to remember Otford having 3 bph, now it has 3 bps. The difference is night and day. Aren't most of the routes around Sevenoaks now being covered by go2, Go-coach's demand-responsive service? I believe so although in the Geoff Marshall vid where he used the service, I'm sure he mentioned that some routes would return to run alongside the on demand service where necessary? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 20:57:25 GMT
Aren't most of the routes around Sevenoaks now being covered by go2, Go-coach's demand-responsive service? I believe so although in the Geoff Marshall vid where he used the service, I'm sure he mentioned that some routes would return to run alongside the on demand service where necessary? I know the 2 (Sevenoaks-Swanley) returned. |
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Post by vjaska on Jan 13, 2021 22:14:16 GMT
I believe so although in the Geoff Marshall vid where he used the service, I'm sure he mentioned that some routes would return to run alongside the on demand service where necessary? I know the 2 (Sevenoaks-Swanley) returned. Thanks for confirming - I wanted to make sure I didn't dream what I said earlier so appreciate that and I also went back and watched the vid again and Andy (general manager of Go Coach) mentioned that alongside Route 2 you mentioned, the 1, 5 & 6 were also returning. |
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