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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2022 15:09:30 GMT
111: Back to London United 235: Back to Metroline X140: Back to Metroline All routes for performance. The 111 was significantly better at AV than TF. The operation under AV wasn't exactly perfect but still better than TFs today. Quite a large gap between me missing the 111 once and the next being a 20 minute wait! The 235 has been a disaster under WK in my eyes, never seen that many bunchings on one route. AH operated it excellently and I rarely ever saw a bunching. Have been using the X140 more recently and there have been a lot of bunchings and curtailments under SO. Never had this issue with HD. The 235 under RATP is a joke. I personally preferred the 235 under Abellio with their adequate service and a total mix of buses. Now, normally even after hours, if I miss one bus then the next would not come until after 20 minutes and then two or three come at once, in which one circulates short to Hounslow Heath. This is in direct contrast with the 117 (a route acquired just a few months prior to the 235) where the buses come on time. The 117 under RATP is a total upgrade to when it operated under Metroline. The 111 under Abellio just doesn't feel the same anymore. I wish RATP retained it with BYD electrics. Other routes: 81/285/482/H32 (when it transfers to Metroline): Back to RATP 270/333: Back to Go-Ahead London K3: Back to Abellio Note that most routes under their current operator do a good job and this is purely my opinion.
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Post by LX09FBJ on Jun 22, 2022 15:59:42 GMT
111: Back to London United 235: Back to Metroline X140: Back to Metroline All routes for performance. The 111 was significantly better at AV than TF. The operation under AV wasn't exactly perfect but still better than TFs today. Quite a large gap between me missing the 111 once and the next being a 20 minute wait! The 235 has been a disaster under WK in my eyes, never seen that many bunchings on one route. AH operated it excellently and I rarely ever saw a bunching. Have been using the X140 more recently and there have been a lot of bunchings and curtailments under SO. Never had this issue with HD. Story of my life. The 111 in the evenings used to at least be somewhat reliable, but now it’s anything but reliable, with huge gaps at unsociable hours and the night service being extremely unreliable I would like to see them at least have a new schedule. Hopefully once it’s new buses arrive, they’ll introduce a new schedule too. Re BYDs on the 111, I’m not entirely sure that RATP would’ve gotten them either. Remember that Abellio would've most likely have gotten BYDs but the Electroliners have better range apparently so that’s why Abellio bought them IIRC.
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Post by COBO on Jun 22, 2022 16:29:08 GMT
18, 105, 195, 207, 228, 427, E1, E3, E5, E7, E10 and E11 back to Metroline.
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Jun 22, 2022 17:48:15 GMT
Basically any X route for me. TT and RATP personally have not impressed me although some Metroline routes I will say since FLN left are still going strong. I'd like to see SLN do well at LI since it gets badmouthed a lot (the garage due to TT).
More shoutouts personally:
139 back to Sovereign (controversial or not I hate 139 at Metroline) 70 back to Metroline 24 back to Metroline 235 back to Abellio 117 back to Metroline 40 back to Abellio 35 back to Abellio 452 back to Abellio 49 back to Abellio 13 back to Metroline (it is the old 82 LOR after all) 79 back to Metroline 251 back to Metroline 258 back to Metroline (since ON now belongs to ML) 232 back to Metroline 444 back to Stagecoach (they do own LI now) 230 back to Stagecoach 67 back to Arriva 68 back to Go Ahead 180 back to Go Ahead (SLN's chosen blind style (Erith, FRASER ROAD is bang out of order) tips this over the edge for me, although I do hold them quite highly)
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Post by Paul on Jun 22, 2022 19:47:22 GMT
269 back to Stagecoach please. I loathe them old banger DW buses they use on the route. They make my regular journeys from Sidcup to Bromley quite tedious. +1 I’d quite like us to get the 269 back. Aside from the handful of journeys where you get overrun with kids it’s really quite a nice route to drive
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Jun 24, 2022 23:38:30 GMT
185 back to Stagecoach.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2022 7:19:16 GMT
231 back to GAL and 317 back to Arriva
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Post by COBO on Jun 28, 2022 21:42:45 GMT
H12 back to Metroline:
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Post by Green Kitten on Jun 28, 2022 21:57:53 GMT
I'm not bothered but the 51 and 99 had a nice eclectic mix of hybrids and diesels under Stagecoach PD.
The 27 doesn't feel right as an Abellio route, but perhaps it may be so after the crazy plans for the route are implemented.
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Post by abellion on Jun 29, 2022 18:01:45 GMT
I'm not bothered but the 51 and 99 had a nice eclectic mix of hybrids and diesels under Stagecoach PD. The 27 doesn't feel right as an Abellio route, but perhaps it may be so after the crazy plans for the route are implemented. Waiting for a stray on the 24 or 27 one day... I didn't even realise they left Metroline/RATP for a few months after they went to QB
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Post by COBO on Sept 7, 2022 23:11:07 GMT
19, 20, 231, 257, 259, 299, 327, 389, 399, 491, W16 and N19 would go back GAL.
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 7, 2022 23:33:34 GMT
197 to Arriva
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 8, 2022 11:06:06 GMT
19, 20, 231, 257, 259, 299, 327, 389, 399, 491, W16 and N19 would go back GAL. Well majority of these routes were not even Go_Ahead to start with. Some only there for a short while like W16 and 20, which imo has more to do with Arriva as they had it for years.
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Post by DT 11 on Sept 8, 2022 11:25:07 GMT
19, 20, 231, 257, 259, 299, 327, 389, 399, 491, W16 and N19 would go back GAL. Well majority of these routes were not even Go_Ahead to start with. Some only there for a short while like W16 and 20, which imo has more to do with Arriva as they had it for years. The above list just shows how much gaining work from other firms has come back bite them and I’ll add the 63/N63 to that
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Post by COBO on Sept 8, 2022 16:00:38 GMT
191 and 192 also back to GAL.
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