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Post by WH241 on Sept 11, 2022 19:18:05 GMT
It transpires that I had read most of this thread after all. I had just not noticed the pages added over the last 3 months or so. I suppose I should add a few now :- 51 to Stagecoach (PD) 68 to Arriva (N) 76 to Arriva (AR) 96 to Arriva (DT) - As I did a detailed Bexley/Woolwich list in the Speculation thread I shall not repeat any others here 114 to RATP (BT or even SO this time) 119 to Stagecoach (TB) 147 to Stagecoach (but now BK) 173 to Arriva (DX) 193 to GA (RR) 223, 224 to Metroline (but now new ON) 227 to Stagecoach (TB) 237 to RATP (AV, although its departure from AV predated RATP) 266 to Metroline (AC or W) 147 Back to Barking takes me back to when the route used Titans and the garage code at BK was changed to CH on most buses in preparation for a move to Chadwell Heath which never happened.
173 does seem strange not being at DX considering how long it ran from there.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 14, 2022 13:14:35 GMT
It transpires that I had read most of this thread after all. I had just not noticed the pages added over the last 3 months or so. I suppose I should add a few now :- 51 to Stagecoach (PD) 68 to Arriva (N) 76 to Arriva (AR) 96 to Arriva (DT) - As I did a detailed Bexley/Woolwich list in the Speculation thread I shall not repeat any others here 114 to RATP (BT or even SO this time) 119 to Stagecoach (TB) 147 to Stagecoach (but now BK) 173 to Arriva (DX) 193 to GA (RR) 223, 224 to Metroline (but now new ON) 227 to Stagecoach (TB) 237 to RATP (AV, although its departure from AV predated RATP) 266 to Metroline (AC or W) 147 Back to Barking takes me back to when the route used Titans and the garage code at BK was changed to CH on most buses in preparation for a move to Chadwell Heath which never happened.
173 does seem strange not being at DX considering how long it ran from there.
I would always see it as a route. [BK] only started to get their piece of the pie when [AP] closed who used to run the route on Sundays. [BK] then got the route when [WH] the original one closed with the Newham area changes then got it back again in the 1999 Jubilee line east London area changes. I cannot remember if it went to the new [WH] before closed or when it acutally closed |
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Post by WH241 on Sept 14, 2022 13:22:47 GMT
147 Back to Barking takes me back to when the route used Titans and the garage code at BK was changed to CH on most buses in preparation for a move to Chadwell Heath which never happened.
173 does seem strange not being at DX considering how long it ran from there.
I would always see it as a route. [BK] only started to get their piece of the pie when [AP] closed who used to run the route on Sundays. [BK] then got the route when [WH] the original one closed with the Newham area changes then got it back again in the 1999 Jubilee line east London area changes. I cannot remember if it went to the new [WH] before closed or when it acutally closed The 147 went to the new WH in 2010 when the 115 moved back to U for one year before closing. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 14, 2022 14:26:51 GMT
Personally for me, I would like to see London Buses re-established as an operator as it was in the late 80's with subsidiaries, this was one of the better times imo.
Some recently happened now with Stagecoach acquiring CT Plus and Lea Interchange. Routes like 26, and 58 are back with Stagecoach.
Other routes for me
159 back to Arriva, especially since it was the route to run the last full time Routemasters daily
20, 109, 168, 173, 176, 184, 382, 393, 444, W14, W15, W16 back to Arriva
232 back to Metroline
5, 15, 30, 69, 101, 104, 230, 248, 276, 325, 364, 376 to Stagecoach
3, 462 to Go Ahead
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Post by WH241 on Sept 14, 2022 14:53:52 GMT
Personally for me, I would like to see London Buses re-established as an operator as it was in the late 80's with subsidiaries, this was one of the better times imo. Some recently happened now with Stagecoach acquiring CT Plus and Lea Interchange. Routes like 26, and 58 are back with Stagecoach. Other routes for me 159 back to Arriva, especially since it was the route to run the last full time Routemasters daily 20, 109, 168, 173, 176, 184, 382, 393, 444, W14, W15, W16 back to Arriva 232 back to Metroline 5, 15, 30, 69, 101, 104, 230, 248, 276, 325, 364, 376 to Stagecoach 3, 462 to Go Ahead Give the 248 a chance to leave Stagecoach 🤣 |
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Post by vjaska on Sept 14, 2022 15:33:25 GMT
Personally for me, I would like to see London Buses re-established as an operator as it was in the late 80's with subsidiaries, this was one of the better times imo. Some recently happened now with Stagecoach acquiring CT Plus and Lea Interchange. Routes like 26, and 58 are back with Stagecoach. Other routes for me 159 back to Arriva, especially since it was the route to run the last full time Routemasters daily 20, 109, 168, 173, 176, 184, 382, 393, 444, W14, W15, W16 back to Arriva 232 back to Metroline 5, 15, 30, 69, 101, 104, 230, 248, 276, 325, 364, 376 to Stagecoach 3, 462 to Go Ahead It would be nice to see the 109 & 159 back with Arriva, can't see it happening anytime over the next few contracts unless Arriva expand the South London ops or lose a bit of work which the South London ops seem to holding their own currently. I also echo the 444 & W15 too I prefer the 3 to stay where it is - it's now 23 years since London Central last had it and was the first route won by one of Abellio's predecessors |
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Post by ronnie on Sept 14, 2022 17:19:34 GMT
Personally for me, I would like to see London Buses re-established as an operator as it was in the late 80's with subsidiaries, this was one of the better times imo. Some recently happened now with Stagecoach acquiring CT Plus and Lea Interchange. Routes like 26, and 58 are back with Stagecoach. Other routes for me 159 back to Arriva, especially since it was the route to run the last full time Routemasters daily 20, 109, 168, 173, 176, 184, 382, 393, 444, W14, W15, W16 back to Arriva 232 back to Metroline 5, 15, 30, 69, 101, 104, 230, 248, 276, 325, 364, 376 to Stagecoach 3, 462 to Go Ahead It would be nice to see the 109 & 159 back with Arriva, can't see it happening anytime over the next few contracts unless Arriva expand the South London ops or lose a bit of work which the South London ops seem to holding their own currently. I also echo the 444 & W15 too I prefer the 3 to stay where it is - it's now 23 years since London Central last had it and was the first route won by one of Abellio's predecessors Havnt there been a few losses recently as well (264?) plus some upcoming? Might have some space. North most certainly has |
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Post by WH241 on Sept 14, 2022 19:08:37 GMT
It's interesting reading this thread in the last few days as it seems there is a lot of nostalgia for how things were around the 2008 - 2010.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 14, 2022 22:47:34 GMT
It would be nice to see the 109 & 159 back with Arriva, can't see it happening anytime over the next few contracts unless Arriva expand the South London ops or lose a bit of work which the South London ops seem to holding their own currently. I also echo the 444 & W15 too I prefer the 3 to stay where it is - it's now 23 years since London Central last had it and was the first route won by one of Abellio's predecessors Havnt there been a few losses recently as well (264?) plus some upcoming? Might have some space. North most certainly has 264 was lost but TC in recent times have retained most of their work whilst TH has outside of one school route. N picked up the 432 & BN hasn’t seen any movements either so personally, that’s pretty stable 😉 |
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Post by MKAY315 on Sept 15, 2022 3:52:12 GMT
If first london was still in London then I would love to see the 179 back with them, the 123, 296. (I still remembered when the 296 used to go to Harold Wood). The 341 and maybe the 259. The 67 I would like to have seen how it would be like if Stagecoach got it again. I'd want the 230 to be back at Stagecoach. The 158 with First.
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Post by londonbuses2018 on Sept 20, 2022 22:13:36 GMT
If first london was still in London then I would love to see the 179 back with them, the 123, 296. (I still remembered when the 296 used to go to Harold Wood). The 341 and maybe the 259. The 67 I would like to have seen how it would be like if Stagecoach got it again. I'd want the 230 to be back at Stagecoach. The 158 with First. Thinking about that could First Slough run the 81? |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 24, 2022 6:16:01 GMT
It transpires that I had read most of this thread after all. I had just not noticed the pages added over the last 3 months or so. I suppose I should add a few now :- 51 to Stagecoach (PD) 68 to Arriva (N) 76 to Arriva (AR) 96 to Arriva (DT) - As I did a detailed Bexley/Woolwich list in the Speculation thread I shall not repeat any others here 114 to RATP (BT or even SO this time) 119 to Stagecoach (TB) 147 to Stagecoach (but now BK) 173 to Arriva (DX) 193 to GA (RR) 223, 224 to Metroline (but now new ON) 227 to Stagecoach (TB) 237 to RATP (AV, although its departure from AV predated RATP) 266 to Metroline (AC or W) 147 Back to Barking takes me back to when the route used Titans and the garage code at BK was changed to CH on most buses in preparation for a move to Chadwell Heath which never happened.
173 does seem strange not being at DX considering how long it ran from there.
Titans suited route 147 so well that for a split second I almost forgot it no longer uses Titans! I rode one on my first August Bank Holiday outer London priority trip, back in 1980. Route 173 effectively brought Arriva to London being the first route won by Grey Green. |
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Post by sam97 on Sept 25, 2022 13:14:47 GMT
24 & 27 back to Metroline and RAPT respectively. I don’t know if a non LT hybrid has been on the routes since Abellio won then
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Post by abellion on Sept 25, 2022 13:25:18 GMT
24 & 27 back to Metroline and RAPT respectively. I don’t know if a non LT hybrid has been on the routes since Abellio won then The 27 has earlier this year. QB are so strict - LTs only on the 24, 27 and 159, E400H only on the 156 and 345 (+3 95xx) and the MMCs are glued to the 344. |
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Post by rif153 on Oct 3, 2022 10:23:45 GMT
49 back to Abellio
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