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Post by southlondonbus on Dec 5, 2022 10:15:34 GMT
But that wouldn't have removed a route between Cricklewood down to Marble Arch thou which was really TFLs aim. Between the 6/23/98/332 most of the links are maintained without the 16 now. Surely it would have caused less inconvenience if the 332 link to Paddington was lost instead? Possibly but that would still leave another route that they don't need between Edgware Road Station and Marble Arch. Unfortunately however its taken apart and put back together it seems the original 16 was going to draw the short straw. |
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Post by greenboy on Dec 5, 2022 10:22:46 GMT
Surely it would have caused less inconvenience if the 332 link to Paddington was lost instead? Possibly but that would still leave another route that they don't need between Edgware Road Station and Marble Arch. Unfortunately however its taken apart and put back together it seems the original 16 was going to draw the short straw. It's a relatively short distance between Edgware Road Station and Marble Arch, in fact it's strange that this went ahead whilst more obvious proposals such as the Putney routes didn't. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Dec 5, 2022 10:25:33 GMT
N161 - new night route from Chislehurst to
Holborn via current day route to Westcombe Park, 177 to Greenwich, 47 to Monument (but direct on the A200, 521 to Bank. Possibly extended to Orpington station via route 61. To give Chislehurst another night route besides the N136
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Post by ADH45258 on Dec 5, 2022 11:01:41 GMT
But that wouldn't have removed a route between Cricklewood down to Marble Arch thou which was really TFLs aim. Between the 6/23/98/332 most of the links are maintained without the 16 now. Surely it would have caused less inconvenience if the 332 link to Paddington was lost instead? The 98 and 189 cover all of the 16's current links to/from Marble Arch |
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Post by rift on Dec 6, 2022 2:44:07 GMT
N161 - new night route from Chislehurst to Holborn via current day route to Westcombe Park, 177 to Greenwich, 47 to Monument (but direct on the A200, 521 to Bank. Possibly extended to Orpington station via route 61. To give Chislehurst another night route besides the N136 I’d have it go to Orpington via the 61 and route it to Oxford Circus instead of Holborn via the N381 and 12, otherwise a good idea. |
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Post by enviroPB on Dec 6, 2022 23:23:03 GMT
N161 - new night route from Chislehurst to Holborn via current day route to Westcombe Park, 177 to Greenwich, 47 to Monument (but direct on the A200, 521 to Bank. Possibly extended to Orpington station via route 61. To give Chislehurst another night route besides the N136 Is it needed? Are buses arriving into and leaving Chislehurst heaving at night? The only thing I would look at in reference to the N136 is timings so there is an even gap with it and the 36N along the Victoria- New Cross corridor. |
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Post by COBO on Dec 7, 2022 22:05:51 GMT
N32: Extended from Edgware to South Harrow via route 142 to Stanmore Broadway and H12 to South Harrow. To link Stanmore and Edgware Stations at night and to feed people along the entire H12 routing to Stanmore Station for the Jubilee night tube and the night tube on the Northern line at Edgware.
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Post by northlondon83 on Dec 9, 2022 9:54:12 GMT
N20 - weekend only night bus route taking over day route between Debden and Bakers Arms, then 56 to Angel Islington, 341 to Waterloo. To give people in Debden and Woodford Green a night link to the tube at Loughton and Debden.
Current N20 to be renumbered to something like N10
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Post by greg on Dec 9, 2022 19:04:25 GMT
N20 - weekend only night bus route taking over day route between Debden and Bakers Arms, then 56 to Angel Islington, 341 to Waterloo. To give people in Debden and Woodford Green a night link to the tube at Loughton and Debden. Current N20 to be renumbered to something like N10 Debden to Hackney Central would definitely be reasonable enough! Demand won't be as far all the way to Debden any further than Angel probably. You could suggest a N56 instead between Debden and Bart's but all the way to Waterloo wouldnt be useful, especially on Office block filled 341 routing down Clerkenwell and Fleet Street. |
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Post by londonbuses on Dec 11, 2022 18:31:33 GMT
The 163 would be a good route to convert to 24 hours - it runs through massive areas of housing that do not have any sort of night service.
I could see the K2 also being a decent night route since Berrylands is a very isolated area with few connections and Kingston is busy even at night and also would connect the route to other night buses in basically every direction.
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Post by northlondon83 on Dec 11, 2022 19:05:11 GMT
The 163 would be a good route to convert to 24 hours - it runs through massive areas of housing that do not have any sort of night service. I could see the K2 also being a decent night route since Berrylands is a very isolated area with few connections and Kingston is busy even at night and also would connect the route to other night buses in basically every direction. I'm not sure what demand there would be on the K2, it goes through residential areas so probably not! |
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Dec 11, 2022 19:05:37 GMT
N157: Blackheath, Royal Standard - Morden
Via: 202 LOR from Blackheath to Crystal Palace, 157 LOR from Crystal Palace to Morden.
Reason: A lot of areas along the 157 and 202 go without a night service such as St Helier, Carshalton, Wallington, South Norwood, Lower Sydenham, Hither Green, Lee, Blackheath
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Dec 11, 2022 19:07:48 GMT
N250: Brixton - New Addington
Via: N250 LOR to Thornton Heath Pond, 64 LOR to New Addington
Reason: Covers two routes at once rather than just one, and could possibly save a bus. Also means that 64 will not need to be 24 hour.
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Post by northlondon83 on Dec 11, 2022 19:07:52 GMT
N157: Blackheath, Royal Standard - Morden Via: 202 LOR from Blackheath to Crystal Palace, 157 LOR from Crystal Palace to Morden. Reason: A lot of areas along the 157 and 202 go without a night service such as St Helier, Carshalton, Wallington, South Norwood, Lower Sydenham, Hither Green, Lee, Blackheath I don't know who would want to go from Carshalton/Wallington to places like Hither Green and Lee at night, let alone in the day. I'd say it's better to have night routes from these areas going towards London rather than link various places in London that don't need linking at night |
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Dec 11, 2022 19:08:52 GMT
N157: Blackheath, Royal Standard - Morden Via: 202 LOR from Blackheath to Crystal Palace, 157 LOR from Crystal Palace to Morden. Reason: A lot of areas along the 157 and 202 go without a night service such as St Helier, Carshalton, Wallington, South Norwood, Lower Sydenham, Hither Green, Lee, Blackheath I don't know who would want to go from Carshalton/Wallington to places like Hither Green and Lee at night, let alone in the day. I'd say it's better to have night routes from these areas going towards London rather than link various places in London that don't need linking at night Fair enough |
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