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Post by vjaska on Jul 3, 2020 21:25:08 GMT
I agree with most of this bar the last part about our own government, we'll agree to disagree on that one but yes, many of the respected experts agree that a second wave is highly likely, some even saying it's inevitable. The US spikes are caused mainly by Trump's lack of control which you elude to and it seems like it's not slowing down over there either. The US spikes are increased testing. It's your wish to believe that but I'm afraid I do not buy that one bit - there is plenty of evidence to show how out of control Trump has been in dealing with it which has seen Covid accelerate across the country. Mr. Fauci who has led the USA cause despite the constant meddling from Trump has stated that the spikes are not from testing - guess who stated it's to do with testing? Two words first begins D and the second begins with T. www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/03/coronavirus-us-daily-case-increase-fauci-trump
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Post by Green Kitten on Jul 3, 2020 22:03:32 GMT
I’ve decided not to travel on public transport until the mask mandate is over ... d*mn they creep me out
Also just look at the graphs of testing in the us - data is there for you to see
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 22:15:11 GMT
I’ve decided not to travel on public transport until the mask mandate is over ... d*mn they creep me out Also just look at the graphs of testing in the us - data is there for you to see 👌🏼😷😷😷
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Post by Green Kitten on Jul 3, 2020 22:24:24 GMT
I’ve decided not to travel on public transport until the mask mandate is over ... d*mn they creep me out Also just look at the graphs of testing in the us - data is there for you to see 👌🏼😷😷😷 🤮
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 3:58:04 GMT
National Express's start of service at Heathrow at least was hanging in doubt at one point due to their bizzare request of paying an un-publishable amount to for HAL to display NX services on the airports departure screens. Yes, you read that correctly. It would seem NX is still playing the sore lose after losing the contract to operate Heathrow Central, Terminal 4 and Terminal 5 bus stations. You can't make this stuff up! No sympathy for Nat Exp. I witnessed their agents directing passengers during a tube strike to use their coaches to Victoria, charging min £10 per person, and not allocating stand space for TfL’s rail replacement coaches , so they left empty.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 4:24:59 GMT
I’ve been commuting to work on public transport now since Mid May.
There has been a slight increase in rail travel customers. But even in peak hour, once packed high speed trains into and out of St Pancras, are around 1/6 full.
I’m hearing some services won’t return to normal for a long time.
My opinion on the bus situation surrounding the tragic deaths of numerous drivers is this. There is no sure way of knowing how these infections were transmitted. I would go as far to say it was unlikely to have been directly through passengers to drivers. Far riskier is passenger to passenger infection, which is mitigated by masks and social distancing. The government should be saying public transport is safe, as long as precautions taken, and social distancing limits adhered to. I am seeing buses running through East London packed. In my opinion, operators should be removing buses from service in these cases until the passengers appreciate that forcing their way onto buses over their passenger level limits is unacceptable.TfL should be ensuring there are sufficient buses on these busy routes for everyone. If need be, use buses from quieter routes.
I am pessimistic about the future of bus travel. It is the option of last resort now, and labelled as dangerous, something to be avoided.
Good luck trying to turn that bad image around.
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Post by Pilot on Jul 4, 2020 6:10:32 GMT
I am just waiting to see what TFL will do now with social distancing being reduced, increase passenger numbers by 5? Personally I think it should stay as is, because with 10 on single deck and 20 on double deck its a very balanced passenger amount.
Buses are far from 'dead' lol, it's busy as heck...more frequency is needed just due to the fact of passenger limit, but obviously more frequency won't happen due to costs and vehicle shortages and TFL contracts, what I will say is that the very late buses are more dead than it already was pre-covid when we were just carrying air.
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Post by greenboy on Jul 4, 2020 7:29:14 GMT
I’ve been commuting to work on public transport now since Mid May. There has been a slight increase in rail travel customers. But even in peak hour, once packed high speed trains into and out of St Pancras, are around 1/6 full. I’m hearing some services won’t return to normal for a long time. My opinion on the bus situation surrounding the tragic deaths of numerous drivers is this. There is no sure way of knowing how these infections were transmitted. I would go as far to say it was unlikely to have been directly through passengers to drivers. Far riskier is passenger to passenger infection, which is mitigated by masks and social distancing. The government should be saying public transport is safe, as long as precautions taken, and social distancing limits adhered to. I am seeing buses running through East London packed. In my opinion, operators should be removing buses from service in these cases until the passengers appreciate that forcing their way onto buses over their passenger level limits is unacceptable.TfL should be ensuring there are sufficient buses on these busy routes for everyone. If need be, use buses from quieter routes. I am pessimistic about the future of bus travel. It is the option of last resort now, and labelled as dangerous, something to be avoided. Good luck trying to turn that bad image around. I was at Waterloo Station recently about 17.30 and it really was surreal just how quiet it was at what would normally be the height of the rush hour. I wonder when the Waterloo & City line will reopen and clearly it's going to be a long time before any sort of normality returns. I agree about removing buses from quiet routes to increase frequencies on busy routes, the 507 and particularly the 521 are running near empty and the 25 could be suspended west of Aldgate to allow an increased service on the rest of the route. I think public transport including the airline industry and the hospitality industry have been worst hit as both involve people sitting in close proximity to each other for long periods in an enclosed space and clearly it's going to be a long road to recovery and it looks like face coverings are going to be the norm for the foreseeable future.
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Post by george on Jul 4, 2020 7:43:57 GMT
I’ve been commuting to work on public transport now since Mid May. There has been a slight increase in rail travel customers. But even in peak hour, once packed high speed trains into and out of St Pancras, are around 1/6 full. I’m hearing some services won’t return to normal for a long time. My opinion on the bus situation surrounding the tragic deaths of numerous drivers is this. There is no sure way of knowing how these infections were transmitted. I would go as far to say it was unlikely to have been directly through passengers to drivers. Far riskier is passenger to passenger infection, which is mitigated by masks and social distancing. The government should be saying public transport is safe, as long as precautions taken, and social distancing limits adhered to. I am seeing buses running through East London packed. In my opinion, operators should be removing buses from service in these cases until the passengers appreciate that forcing their way onto buses over their passenger level limits is unacceptable.TfL should be ensuring there are sufficient buses on these busy routes for everyone. If need be, use buses from quieter routes. I am pessimistic about the future of bus travel. It is the option of last resort now, and labelled as dangerous, something to be avoided. Good luck trying to turn that bad image around. I was at Waterloo Station recently about 17.30 and it really was surreal just how quiet it was at what would normally be the height of the rush hour. I wonder when the Waterloo & City line will reopen and clearly it's going to be a long time before any sort of normality returns. I agree about removing buses from quiet routes to increase frequencies on busy routes, the 507 and particularly the 521 are running near empty and the 25 could be suspended west of Aldgate to allow an increased service on the rest of the route. I think public transport including the airline industry and the hospitality industry have been worst hit as both involve people sitting in close proximity to each other for long periods in an enclosed space and clearly it's going to be a long road to recovery and it looks like face coverings are going to be the norm for the foreseeable future. From what I can gather the Waterloo and City line will be back next week. I might be wrong but got an email saying "from next week we will implement the working timetable minus the Night Tube Services"
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jul 4, 2020 13:29:49 GMT
Just coming back home from Tooting. The traffic is worse than pre-Covid levels! 493 is f*cked, on Blackshaw Road and bus in front is at Roehampton Uni Part of the reason traffic is worse is of course the government advice against transport. Never mind the likely increase in traffic accidents, people getting run over and worse pollution, potentially causing alternative respiratory problems to Coronavirus.
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Post by greenboy on Jul 4, 2020 16:46:18 GMT
Just coming back home from Tooting. The traffic is worse than pre-Covid levels! 493 is f*cked, on Blackshaw Road and bus in front is at Roehampton Uni Part of the reason traffic is worse is of course the government advice against transport. Never mind the likely increase in traffic accidents, people getting run over and worse pollution, potentially causing alternative respiratory problems to Coronavirus. Which is why pavements have been widened to encourage walking and cycling........ any government would be advising against using public transport unless it was essential at the moment.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 4, 2020 17:31:08 GMT
Part of the reason traffic is worse is of course the government advice against transport. Never mind the likely increase in traffic accidents, people getting run over and worse pollution, potentially causing alternative respiratory problems to Coronavirus. Which is why pavements have been widened to encourage walking and cycling........ any government would be advising against using public transport unless it was essential at the moment. I think, as of today, essential travel has gone out of the window now the majority of places is open.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 17:36:23 GMT
Which is why pavements have been widened to encourage walking and cycling........ any government would be advising against using public transport unless it was essential at the moment. I think, as of today, essential travel has gone out of the window now the majority of places is open. Agree 100% East London was totally back to the "old" normal. Stratford was really busy especially outside the station. Also seen some very busy buses especially the 115. I wonder how the government expects people to get to pubs without drink driving if public transport is to be avoided. Not everywhere is practical to walk or cycle also we are only a few months away from autumn and then no one will fancy cycling once the novelty has worn off.
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Post by LondonNorthern on Jul 4, 2020 19:09:16 GMT
Could we see post lockdown the Government removing night tube on the northern line due to how duplicated it is with night routes?
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Post by busaholic on Jul 4, 2020 21:43:44 GMT
Could we see post lockdown the Government removing night tube on the northern line due to how duplicated it is with night routes? Can't see it'd be in the government's purlieu to remove a night tube line.
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