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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 18, 2020 14:03:11 GMT
Yes opinions vary that don't mean people are trying to score political points.
A relative just told me supermarkets are running extremely low on basics so people are still panic buying. We are really in interesting times!
Yep, all three Beckton Superstores are running incredibly low and the toiletries Aisle in the Tesco was completely blocked off. This is just totally ridiculous now. Worst place to go, it is the same every Christmas and easter people flock there to clear the shelves, same with black Friday sales. Gallions Reach/Beckton would be the place I would be going. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 18, 2020 14:11:12 GMT
I think that's the likely short-term impact of Coronavirus, buses not turning up because the driver is sick or following advice to self-isolate and fewer passengers travelling for the same reasons. If a lot of drivers are absent, and/or if passenger numbers start dropping significantly some companies may introduce emergency temporary timetables. I can't say yet that I have noticed any appreciable difference here in Torbay and yet we are one of the first UK hotspots. Even restaurants, pubs and shops have not started closing down yet. Stagecoach have issued a statement* that, for now, there is no advisory against normal travel and so they are operating a full service. They are giving extra attention to cleaning and driver hygiene. * it's on their website. Its all very well these companies saying they are doing extra cleaning but saying and doing are completely different things. Every bus driver will know how dirty bus cabs get especially in corners and crevices such as the dash where chewing gum, apple cores and thick layers of dust gather. Most bus companies do a full deep clean once a year on MOT. I've become slightly concerned about this virus and bus driving because as someone else said we should not be allowing packed buses and if i hear someone coughing what do i do? I have gone on a few buses and trains and still have not seen cleanliness on the levels they should be cleaned. The cleanest buses were Stagecoach from [RM] and [NS] no dust and grains dirt, handrails clean. Arriva [EC] [SF] were just average. Go-Ahead [RR] and Arriva [DX] doesn't seem as though the cleaners have bothered and just done minimals, complete let down especially in this situation. I would be having words with [DX] Victoria line, not clean enough imo. Metropolitan, Circle/Hammersmith/District, London Overground, TfL Rail cleaned good.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 18, 2020 14:12:24 GMT
I have no idea when the panic buying is going to end but it's getting worst and people have become insane. I work at M&S Foods in Greenford and from Monday we ran out of Toilet Paper and now we've run out of Hand wipes, Hand Santizers, Chicken, Fruit, Pasta, Bread, Baker stuff, Toilet Paper and kitchen Towels. There a lot shelves are empty. It's just getting terrible. We are replacing the blank shelves with tinned Tomatoes and water bottles. it's strange how people don't bull buy the healty stuff ike water, Orange juice or Soup. Our shop was more busy than normal. I saw one of our customer using our bags for the fruit & Veg as gloves. The Media is not helping things. One of customers said to me thank god that we had Cereal because he's been to several Tesco's and they had none. Once a customer was complaining how she went to several Tesco's and they had no Toilet roll. She said what's wrong with people and I said Conviro virus or what ever it's called. She ignored me. Then procceded to by all the toilet roll from our store. So how can you complain about people then do the said same thing. People have gone insane and the Media or Boris is not helping things. How comes whenever there is a crisis the Goverment doesn't know what to do? what an idiot at that person attitude. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 18, 2020 14:16:11 GMT
Lockdown should of been implemented about a week ago given how Italy cases have ramped up this isn't about left or right this is simple doing the right thing instead of "Herd Immunity" basically culling off the old and weak the whole dealing with this has been a shambles it really isn't good enough a group of 229 scientists have wrote to the Chief medical officer asking to see these plans and saying that it's basically a stupid idea ! Total Lockdown is what we need this is a National Emergency . Like Christmas but for 14 days , Police and Army on the streets enforcing special permits to go to work in the Hospitals , Tesco , Etc this is what needs to happen one life lost is one too many not "we may lose our loved ones sooner than we'd like but that's life" anyone elderly or with "underlying issues" is looked upon like they don't matter whole handling is absolutely shocking !!! Many experts say it would achieve nothing, even listening on LBC as in other countries people are more fearful of police/army as it is, in the UK people have no respect for police, they would swear at them and generally do as they please as they know police powers are weak. Do the same in China you would be beaten, jailed and in the worse case shot dead. If a lockdown was implemented too early, people then start to become lax and ignore it after, then start to socialise etc then risk further spreading it. It is human nature to panic when not in comfort zone, many people have lost the plot already.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 18, 2020 14:20:08 GMT
I am not sure if it has been mentioned here yet. But buses would be on a Saturday service from next week Monday. London Buses are sustaining losses, plus routes performing better due to no passengers would cost them in further bonus payments to operators. Plus at some garages as one or two drivers been quarantined other staff have not come in to work, giving routes a few cuts.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 14:20:49 GMT
The media are an easy scapegoat like Boris is, with a likelihood of having to self isolate people are inevitably going to be stocking up on essentials like toilet rolls. The only thing I've been unable to get is hand sanitiser although I've got a few bottles as it's something I've always used but inevitably the surge in demand for it is going to create a shortage, it's nobodys fault. This situation is unprecedented, it almost feels as though we are at war and this blame culture really isn't helping. Fully agree, on this I would say social media is part to blame for so much hysteria. So much essentials that people should have been panic buying they have not. They have gone for stupid things like toilet paper and pasta. There are so many other items they could go for which makes sense. I also do not get why is everyone going to the supermarkets. Your local small shops still have many of the same items, and they are not even over-priced. But I guess it is the mentality of people just to go to the main supermarkets for everything. It reminds me of Christmas when everyone just hogging the supermarkets.
I'm running really low on supplies now, I'm going to stick to local shops from now on. I just hope these shops are not forced to close because if just supermarkets are allowed to open things will even worse than now. I wonder just how long take Way places will be open. McDonald's is now take away and drive through only. |
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Post by vjaska on Mar 18, 2020 14:51:19 GMT
It isn’t misleading - I work in a supermarket and have witnessed first hand people stocking up like a nuclear war is breaking out which is nothing like this pandemic. Children won’t be home alone - parents can get time off in order to look after children as has already happened with the schools that have already closed since the beginning of the outbreak. All parents need to do is minimise contact between them & older family members. The government has been slow and quite rightly most sporting events have been cancelled although irresponsibly, Cheltenham went ahead as does one rugby match - money prioritised over people’s health. The Premier League only acted after criticism was rightly levelled at them when leaked plans showed they were to play the rest of the season behind closed doors. Your elderly members are entitled to as they please providing they don’t put others at risk. However, if we end up adopting measures like in Italy, they’ll have no choice but to stay in unless granted special permission to leave the house. You say children wont be home alone, but many people I work with do NOT have the luxury to have their parents to look after their children. Italy imposed many measures and it still did not stop the rampant spread of the virus there. You've missed the point entirely - I said parents will be entitled to time off to look after children in the event schools closed which, especially in London, is highly likely going to happen by next week by the looks of things. It's not about luxury - employers have no choice but to allow it. Many virologists have said Italy acted too late hence why it's in the situation it's in. I'm glad to see that the government here has finally stopped its sit and do nothing attitude but it still needs to do more personally. |
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Post by Pilot on Mar 18, 2020 14:59:44 GMT
Yea as of today I did see the need for Saturday service, but on the route that I was on, at least I could drive normal, kneel bus, deal with passenger enquires normal...you know without any stress or being late or traffic or headway because it was like a perfect day in the office. So in theory could still run Monday-Friday service without major hassle or waiting at every stop for 2 minutes.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Mar 18, 2020 15:20:13 GMT
The paper containing data that is being used to make decisions has been released yesterday www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdfProbably won't be interesting to many unless you're interested in Biology. It's quite interesting to see what the actual risks posed are and why the government is doing what it's doing. School and University closures actually don't have a huge impact which is why they didn't do them initially. School closures are also likely to push the peak of the epidemic a lot further down the line, as in too far that it becomes a problem again . The greatest reduction will be done if over 70s are home quarantined, however for obvious reasons that isn't as easy as it sounds. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 15:23:57 GMT
My place of work is closing Friday with the view of opening again after Easter. Not sure we are likely to be able to open then!!
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Post by wirewiper on Mar 18, 2020 15:40:01 GMT
Shops here in Torbay are also running out of certain items - it's mainly the big out-of-town stores with car parks that are being hammered, people walking to their local shops are restricted to what they can carry. It's not that there are actual shortages, it's that the supply chains cannot keep up with the current levels of demand. And although I am not stockpiling, I have noticed myself replenishing things earlier I would have done previously.
Although the Government is asking people to restrict themselves to necessary public transport journeys and passenger numbers are noticeably lower than usual, buses are continuing to run to their normal timetables - with the proviso that passengers might have to wait a bit longer than usual on the most frequent services. If staff are unavailable, early, late and infrequent services are being prioritised to maximise connectivity. That said, I can see services going onto Saturday timetables soon - especially if the decision is taken to close schools and colleges.
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Post by WSD3 on Mar 18, 2020 16:04:42 GMT
Where I work in a school we are going to be partial closed tomorrow
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Post by richard on Mar 18, 2020 16:10:23 GMT
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Post by richard on Mar 18, 2020 16:13:38 GMT
I am not sure if it has been mentioned here yet. But buses would be on a Saturday service from next week Monday. London Buses are sustaining losses, plus routes performing better due to no passengers would cost them in further bonus payments to operators. Plus at some garages as one or two drivers been quarantined other staff have not come in to work, giving routes a few cuts.
I think it was mentioned by foxhat a few days ago the Saturday time timetable will start on Monday 23rd March. But still no news on what the Tube is doing I presume it will be in the same day as the buses. |
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Post by YY13VKP on Mar 18, 2020 16:21:29 GMT
Where I work in a school we are going to be partial closed tomorrow Sounds as if all schools will be closed later today. My university closed yesterday because of the outbreak, contemplating whether it may be worth returning home early or wait until my booked departure at the end of next week |
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